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Old July 30th 03, 05:00 PM
Stefan Drüke
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am 29.07.03 schrieb g:
I think a team of all Australia's best racers would definately get an
invite. LeBlanc likes teams that can make a contest.


Cadel Evans - GC rider
Michael Rogers - GC rider
Baden Cooke - sprinter
Brad McGee - TT & Sprint Leadout
Stuart O'Grady - Sprint Leadout & breakaway specialist
Scott Sunderland - Head Domestique
Nathan O'Neill - TT & Domestique
Henk Vogels - Domestique & breakaway specialist
one more domestique


That's only 8, but you need 9 riders.

BTW: The green jersey went the second time to an australian rider.
Congratulations. - Seems, that Zabel has no more interest to go for the
green.
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Old July 31st 03, 12:45 AM
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Stefan Drüke wrote:

am 29.07.03 schrieb g:
I think a team of all Australia's best racers would definately get an
invite. LeBlanc likes teams that can make a contest.


Cadel Evans - GC rider
Michael Rogers - GC rider
Baden Cooke - sprinter
Brad McGee - TT & Sprint Leadout
Stuart O'Grady - Sprint Leadout & breakaway specialist
Scott Sunderland - Head Domestique
Nathan O'Neill - TT & Domestique
Henk Vogels - Domestique & breakaway specialist
one more domestique


That's only 8, but you need 9 riders.


Yes, thats why I named #9 "one more domestique"
I'm thinking Mat White because he has had Tour experience.

BTW: The green jersey went the second time to an australian rider.
Congratulations. - Seems, that Zabel has no more interest to go for the
green.


I wouldn't say that, he gave it a good shake infact. But he, like
O'Grady, has slowed with age..

GK
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Old July 31st 03, 12:45 AM
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Stefan Drüke wrote:

am 29.07.03 schrieb g:
I think a team of all Australia's best racers would definately get an
invite. LeBlanc likes teams that can make a contest.


Cadel Evans - GC rider
Michael Rogers - GC rider
Baden Cooke - sprinter
Brad McGee - TT & Sprint Leadout
Stuart O'Grady - Sprint Leadout & breakaway specialist
Scott Sunderland - Head Domestique
Nathan O'Neill - TT & Domestique
Henk Vogels - Domestique & breakaway specialist
one more domestique


That's only 8, but you need 9 riders.


Yes, thats why I named #9 "one more domestique"
I'm thinking Mat White because he has had Tour experience.

BTW: The green jersey went the second time to an australian rider.
Congratulations. - Seems, that Zabel has no more interest to go for the
green.


I wouldn't say that, he gave it a good shake infact. But he, like
O'Grady, has slowed with age..

GK
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Old July 31st 03, 10:24 AM
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"g" wrote in message
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I think a team of all Australia's best racers would definately get an
invite. LeBlanc likes teams that can make a contest.

Cadel Evans - GC rider
Michael Rogers - GC rider
Baden Cooke - sprinter
Brad McGee - TT & Sprint Leadout
Stuart O'Grady - Sprint Leadout & breakaway specialist
Scott Sunderland - Head Domestique
Nathan O'Neill - TT & Domestique
Henk Vogels - Domestique & breakaway specialist
one more domestique


most of these riders would already be under contract and would be difficult
to secure without extra $$
sorta like football transfer fees.
even so, you would miss out on some.

A good team has a stable of well over nine riders including the odd
'apprentice' and up-and-comers.

In my "fosters" team I would include some european riders, to translate at
the very least!

And start as cat 3 team and wory your way up via results!


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Old July 31st 03, 10:24 AM
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"g" wrote in message
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I think a team of all Australia's best racers would definately get an
invite. LeBlanc likes teams that can make a contest.

Cadel Evans - GC rider
Michael Rogers - GC rider
Baden Cooke - sprinter
Brad McGee - TT & Sprint Leadout
Stuart O'Grady - Sprint Leadout & breakaway specialist
Scott Sunderland - Head Domestique
Nathan O'Neill - TT & Domestique
Henk Vogels - Domestique & breakaway specialist
one more domestique


most of these riders would already be under contract and would be difficult
to secure without extra $$
sorta like football transfer fees.
even so, you would miss out on some.

A good team has a stable of well over nine riders including the odd
'apprentice' and up-and-comers.

In my "fosters" team I would include some european riders, to translate at
the very least!

And start as cat 3 team and wory your way up via results!


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Old August 3rd 03, 05:50 AM
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It could be a better idea for a large Aussie sponsor to assist an existing
team that is already looking after Aussies. Quickstep for instance already
has an association with the NSW institute of sport and has help in the
devlopment of Aussie riders
The Fosters/Quickstep team sounds good to me.
"cc" wrote in message
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Was wondering what sort of ball park figure it'd cost
to send a team to the TDF.

I mean if an Australian company were to send a team,
(I'm sure someone like TLS or BHP or Fosters could afford to),
the exposure would be massive, given that it'd be the only
Oz team. that is assuming u can get the top Oz riders...
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Old August 3rd 03, 05:50 AM
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It could be a better idea for a large Aussie sponsor to assist an existing
team that is already looking after Aussies. Quickstep for instance already
has an association with the NSW institute of sport and has help in the
devlopment of Aussie riders
The Fosters/Quickstep team sounds good to me.
"cc" wrote in message
...
Was wondering what sort of ball park figure it'd cost
to send a team to the TDF.

I mean if an Australian company were to send a team,
(I'm sure someone like TLS or BHP or Fosters could afford to),
the exposure would be massive, given that it'd be the only
Oz team. that is assuming u can get the top Oz riders...
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Old August 4th 03, 06:15 PM
Stefan Drüke
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am 31.07.03 schrieb Andy:

most of these riders would already be under contract and would be

difficult
to secure without extra $$
sorta like football transfer fees.
even so, you would miss out on some.


Most contracts over one or two year. I don't think that's much difficult,
if you pay more than the geradt european GS 1 teams.

And start as cat 3 team and wory your way up via results!


You can do that, or you can "buy" riders with many points, so that you
become automatically a cat 1 team, e. g. Coast did it in the first year.
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Old August 4th 03, 06:15 PM
Stefan Drüke
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am 31.07.03 schrieb Andy:

most of these riders would already be under contract and would be

difficult
to secure without extra $$
sorta like football transfer fees.
even so, you would miss out on some.


Most contracts over one or two year. I don't think that's much difficult,
if you pay more than the geradt european GS 1 teams.

And start as cat 3 team and wory your way up via results!


You can do that, or you can "buy" riders with many points, so that you
become automatically a cat 1 team, e. g. Coast did it in the first year.
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Old August 6th 03, 05:21 PM
Stefan Drüke
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am 05.08.03 schrieb John:

Yep they sure did and look where it got them.


There was another problem with coast. The boss of the company coast wanted
to do everything himself, but had no experience in cycling and in the end
the team was destroyed.

But don't forget Once won't be there next year and some other sponsors
said that they won't engage in cycling sports anymore. If you wan't to set
up your own time, there is a good chande in 2004 :-)
 




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