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  #61  
Old February 15th 17, 11:47 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
W. Wesley Groleau
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On 2/14/17 8:42 PM, wrote:
Mexicans will get rich from Trump's wall.


So then, they can afford to pay for it like he said.

Hope so, because after it's built, it will be hard to get our tanks down
there to force them to pay.

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Wes Groleau
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  #62  
Old February 16th 17, 12:28 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
John B.[_3_]
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On Thu, 16 Feb 2017 00:35:55 +0100, "W. Wesley Groleau"
wrote:

On 2/13/17 3:13 AM, John B. wrote:
Who was it that said that "those who refuse to learn from history are
doomed to repeat it"?


Either it was several people or those quoting him/her/them are just
guessing.



It appears to have been Jorge Agustín Nicolás Ruiz de Santayana y
Borrás who wrote "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to
repeat it".
--
Cheers,

John B.

  #63  
Old February 16th 17, 12:42 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Wednesday, February 15, 2017 at 3:30:08 PM UTC-8, W. Wesley Groleau wrote:
On 2/12/17 7:33 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
So, why do I tolerate this level of crap? Because the alternative
products that might last and be repairable are far more expensive or
simply not available. In some industries (i.e. home appliances) 100%
of everything offered is crap including the high priced luxury
products.


I used to say I'd rather buy $30 shoes that last a year than $200 shoes
that last three years.

Now that I'm traveling, I'd rather buy second-hand clothes (nd other
things) cheaply after I arrive than things I feel I have to pack because
they cost too much to leave behind.

--
Wes Groleau


LOL Totally. It took me 20 yrs to learn to bring a pillow on roadtrips so I don't have to use the sucky one at the motel. Now I just put down ten bucks for a new one
  #64  
Old February 16th 17, 01:05 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
John B.[_3_]
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On Thu, 16 Feb 2017 00:35:55 +0100, "W. Wesley Groleau"
wrote:

On 2/13/17 3:13 AM, John B. wrote:
Who was it that said that "those who refuse to learn from history are
doomed to repeat it"?


Either it was several people or those quoting him/her/them are just
guessing.


It is generally attributed to Jorge Agustín Nicolás Ruiz de Santayana
y Borrás, who actually wrote, in 1905, "Those who cannot remember the
past are condemned to repeat it" although Edmund Burke, 1729 - 1797,
wrote "those who don't know history are doomed to repeat it".

--
Cheers,

John B.

  #65  
Old February 16th 17, 01:46 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Sir Ridesalot
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On Wednesday, February 15, 2017 at 7:28:39 PM UTC-5, John B. wrote:
On Thu, 16 Feb 2017 00:35:55 +0100, "W. Wesley Groleau"
wrote:

On 2/13/17 3:13 AM, John B. wrote:
Who was it that said that "those who refuse to learn from history are
doomed to repeat it"?


Either it was several people or those quoting him/her/them are just
guessing.



It appears to have been Jorge AgustÃ*n Nicolás Ruiz de Santayana y
Borrás who wrote "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to
repeat it".
--
Cheers,

John B.


"From Wikiquotes:
"Vol. I, Reason in Common Sense[edit]

Snipped unrelated quotes.

Progress, far from consisting in change, depends on retentiveness. When change is absolute there remains no being to improve and no direction is set for possible improvement: and when experience is not retained, as among savages, infancy is perpetual. Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.

This famous statement has produced many paraphrases and variants: Those who cannot learn from history are doomed to repeat it.
Those who do not remember their past are condemned to repeat their mistakes.
Those who do not read history are doomed to repeat it.
Those who fail to learn from the mistakes of their predecessors are destined to repeat them.
Those who do not know history's mistakes are doomed to repeat them."


Cheers
  #66  
Old February 16th 17, 01:48 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On 2/15/2017 5:47 PM, W. Wesley Groleau wrote:
On 2/14/17 8:42 PM, wrote:
Mexicans will get rich from Trump's wall.


So then, they can afford to pay for it like he said.

Hope so, because after it's built, it will be hard to get
our tanks down there to force them to pay.


Think more 'huge'. 82d Airborne flies to work:
http://www.combatreform.org/m8offloadfromc5.jpg

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Andrew Muzi
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  #67  
Old February 16th 17, 01:52 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
AMuzi
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On 2/15/2017 6:28 PM, John B. wrote:
On Thu, 16 Feb 2017 00:35:55 +0100, "W. Wesley Groleau"
wrote:

On 2/13/17 3:13 AM, John B. wrote:
Who was it that said that "those who refuse to learn from history are
doomed to repeat it"?


Either it was several people or those quoting him/her/them are just
guessing.



It appears to have been Jorge Agustín Nicolás Ruiz de Santayana y
Borrás who wrote "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to
repeat it".



Mostly remembered now as the setup for Marx's quip, "First
as tragedy then as farce"

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  #68  
Old February 16th 17, 02:01 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Doug Landau
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On Wednesday, February 15, 2017 at 5:46:58 PM UTC-8, Sir Ridesalot wrote:
On Wednesday, February 15, 2017 at 7:28:39 PM UTC-5, John B. wrote:
On Thu, 16 Feb 2017 00:35:55 +0100, "W. Wesley Groleau"
wrote:

On 2/13/17 3:13 AM, John B. wrote:
Who was it that said that "those who refuse to learn from history are
doomed to repeat it"?

Either it was several people or those quoting him/her/them are just
guessing.



It appears to have been Jorge AgustÃ*n Nicolás Ruiz de Santayana y
Borrás who wrote "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to
repeat it".
--
Cheers,

John B.


"From Wikiquotes:
"Vol. I, Reason in Common Sense[edit]

Snipped unrelated quotes.

Progress, far from consisting in change, depends on retentiveness. When change is absolute there remains no being to improve and no direction is set for possible improvement: and when experience is not retained, as among savages, infancy is perpetual. Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.

This famous statement has produced many paraphrases and variants: Those who cannot learn from history are doomed to repeat it.
Those who do not remember their past are condemned to repeat their mistakes.
Those who do not read history are doomed to repeat it.
Those who fail to learn from the mistakes of their predecessors are destined to repeat them.
Those who do not know history's mistakes are doomed to repeat them."


Let us not forget "History doesn't repeat itself, historians repeat each other."


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Old February 16th 17, 02:15 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
AMuzi
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On 2/15/2017 8:01 PM, Doug Landau wrote:
On Wednesday, February 15, 2017 at 5:46:58 PM UTC-8, Sir Ridesalot wrote:
On Wednesday, February 15, 2017 at 7:28:39 PM UTC-5, John B. wrote:
On Thu, 16 Feb 2017 00:35:55 +0100, "W. Wesley Groleau"
wrote:

On 2/13/17 3:13 AM, John B. wrote:
Who was it that said that "those who refuse to learn from history are
doomed to repeat it"?

Either it was several people or those quoting him/her/them are just
guessing.


It appears to have been Jorge AgustÃ*n Nicolás Ruiz de Santayana y
Borrás who wrote "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to
repeat it".
--
Cheers,

John B.


"From Wikiquotes:
"Vol. I, Reason in Common Sense[edit]

Snipped unrelated quotes.

Progress, far from consisting in change, depends on retentiveness. When change is absolute there remains no being to improve and no direction is set for possible improvement: and when experience is not retained, as among savages, infancy is perpetual. Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.

This famous statement has produced many paraphrases and variants: Those who cannot learn from history are doomed to repeat it.
Those who do not remember their past are condemned to repeat their mistakes.
Those who do not read history are doomed to repeat it.
Those who fail to learn from the mistakes of their predecessors are destined to repeat them.
Those who do not know history's mistakes are doomed to repeat them."


Let us not forget "History doesn't repeat itself, historians repeat each other."



of late I'm partial to John Bachelor's, "The only news is
the history you haven't read".

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Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
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  #70  
Old February 16th 17, 03:13 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
W. Wesley Groleau
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On 2/16/17 2:46 AM, Sir Ridesalot re-quoted:
"From Wikiquotes:
"Vol. I, Reason in Common Sense[edit]

Snipped unrelated quotes.

Progress, far from consisting in change, depends on retentiveness. When change is absolute there remains no being to improve and no direction is set for possible improvement: and when experience is not retained, as among savages, infancy is perpetual. Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.

This famous statement has produced many paraphrases and variants: Those who cannot learn from history are doomed to repeat it.
Those who do not remember their past are condemned to repeat their mistakes.
Those who do not read history are doomed to repeat it.
Those who fail to learn from the mistakes of their predecessors are destined to repeat them.
Those who do not know history's mistakes are doomed to repeat them."


And:

"The only thing history teaches us is that man does not learn from history."

"Experience: that which enables you to recognize your mistakes when you
repeat them."


--
Wes Groleau
 




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