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First offense lifetime ban for dopers is needed now....!!
On Aug 4, 5:16 am, " wrote:
The time is now for the UCI to implement a lifetime ban for any rider that has tested positive. Pro cycling is losing a lot of major sponsors and we cannot afford to let this go on. Coca Cola many other companies have dropped their sponsorships Discovery is stil having problems finding a new sponsor. A first use lifetime ban will show that cycling is commited to cleansing the sport of the cheats. ease up! it's not that important, some instruction and education may be necessary. not only of the rider but the aso agency aso we have witnessed. If the agemcy is allowed to use 'your' rule then who rules the agency? |
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A first use lifetime ban will show that cycling is commited to cleansing the sport of the cheats. datakoll wrote: If the agemcy is allowed to use 'your' rule then who rules the agency? CIA, FBI, NSA, aliens. |
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ps.com... The time is now for the UCI to implement a lifetime ban for any rider that has tested positive. Pro cycling is losing a lot of major sponsors and we cannot afford to let this go on. Coca Cola many other companies have dropped their sponsorships Discovery is stil having problems finding a new sponsor. A first use lifetime ban will show that cycling is commited to cleansing the sport of the cheats. And we need a lifetime drivers license ban for anyone using a cell phone while driving. We need a lifetime ban for anyone speeding. We need a lifetime ban for anyone using any drug that impedes judgment when operating any dangerous machinery. In which case we'd save in the neighborhood of 10,000 lives every year. How many lives would be saved if we ban racers? |
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First offense lifetime ban for dopers is needed now....!!
On Aug 4, 7:44 pm, "Tom Kunich" cyclintom@yahoo. com wrote:
wrote in message ps.com... The time is now for the UCI to implement a lifetime ban for any rider that has tested positive. Pro cycling is losing a lot of major sponsors and we cannot afford to let this go on. Coca Cola many other companies have dropped their sponsorships Discovery is stil having problems finding a new sponsor. A first use lifetime ban will show that cycling is commited to cleansing the sport of the cheats. And we need a lifetime drivers license ban for anyone using a cell phone while driving. We need a lifetime ban for anyone speeding. We need a lifetime ban for anyone using any drug that impedes judgment when operating any dangerous machinery. In which case we'd save in the neighborhood of 10,000 lives every year. How many lives would be saved if we ban racers? oh good! there are 500,000 people in the slammer tonight cause they were partying. |
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First offense lifetime ban for dopers is needed now....!!
On Aug 4, 5:16 am, " wrote:
The time is now for the UCI to implement a lifetime ban for any rider that has tested positive. Pro cycling is losing a lot of major sponsors and we cannot afford to let this go on. Coca Cola many other companies have dropped their sponsorships Discovery is stil having problems finding a new sponsor. A first use lifetime ban will show that cycling is commited to cleansing the sport of the cheats. Coca cola is very bad for your stomach anyway...good riddance. Andre |
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First offense lifetime ban for dopers is needed now....!!
On Aug 4, 4:49 pm, Ron Ruff wrote:
On Aug 4, 12:15 pm, " wrote: When one considers how much cheats have damaged the sport it is simply ridiculous to put up with them. In the end it may not be 100% effective, but it deter most of them hopefully. Hope away. Blame for killing the sport rests on fans with attitudes like yours and journalists who cater to that attitude. In fact virtually all the riders who are doping wish they didn't have to... but they have to because the dope works, and the system is unable to tell if someone is doping or not via testing. What would you do in that situation... dope or settle for being pack fodder? So sure... ban them all for life... that will save the sport. Then why not rob banks? You get rich on that. If you don't rob banks you may remain poor. |
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First offense lifetime ban for dopers is needed now....!!
On Aug 4, 11:15 am, " wrote:
What it will do is to instantly end a riders career if decides to dope. It will also put a end to repeat offenders. When one considers how much cheats have damaged the sport it is simply ridiculous to put up with them. In the end it may not be 100% effective, but it deter most of them hopefully. No, what it will do is end a rider's career if he decides to dope _and gets caught_. [And the doping conviction stands up in CAS and the national fed doesn't find an excuse to let him off.] We know that many people have doped and not gotten caught. As lonng as there is a substantial chance of getting away with it, people will feel pressure to dope. "Hopefully" is not a sound basis for an anti-doping policy. You're basically talking about enforcing it like a crime, so you need to think about this based on knowledge of criminology, not on your wishes. Ben |
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First offense lifetime ban for dopers is needed now....!!
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" wrote: On Aug 4, 11:15 am, " wrote: What it will do is to instantly end a riders career if decides to dope. It will also put a end to repeat offenders. When one considers how much cheats have damaged the sport it is simply ridiculous to put up with them. In the end it may not be 100% effective, but it deter most of them hopefully. No, what it will do is end a rider's career if he decides to dope _and gets caught_. [And the doping conviction stands up in CAS and the national fed doesn't find an excuse to let him off.] We know that many people have doped and not gotten caught. As lonng as there is a substantial chance of getting away with it, people will feel pressure to dope. That's one of the two key reasons why the present system doesn't work and going to an even more draconian system will be even more counterproductive. The other reason is the questionable reliability of the tests - are the positives accurate or not? Are the negatives? "Hopefully" is not a sound basis for an anti-doping policy. You're basically talking about enforcing it like a crime, so you need to think about this based on knowledge of criminology, not on your wishes. "Hope is not a strategy." We can see how well that works out elsewhere in this world everyday, but let's leave that alone. -- tanx, Howard Never take a tenant with a monkey. remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok? |
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First offense lifetime ban for dopers is needed now....!!
On Aug 4, 7:29 pm, Andre wrote:
Then why not rob banks? You get rich on that. If you don't rob banks you may remain poor. I didn't realize that bank robbing was a pro sport... but I'm out of touch on many modern forms of entertainment. |
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