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Cycling to work in the suburbs
Couple of posts relevent to Australian cycling on this site. This one argues
that commuting by bicycle in the suburbs has more potential than commuting to the CBD http://melbourneurbanist.wordpress.c...-in-melbourne/ |
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Cycling to work in the suburbs
In aus.bicycle on Sat, 13 Mar 2010 12:51:59 GMT
Claude wrote: Couple of posts relevent to Australian cycling on this site. This one argues that commuting by bicycle in the suburbs has more potential than commuting to the CBD http://melbourneurbanist.wordpress.c...-in-melbourne/ I commute suburb to suburb although I doubt my commute is one most people who drive would consider reasonable. (My boss rides about 10km, he thinks my 20 is horrible, I think his 10 has way more hills and is therefore worse...) I have wondered about shopping trips. There are flattish suburbs around Sydney where a bicycle trailer that doubles as a shopping trolley would be a useful item. If the car-centric roads were altered to make them more bike friendly and the shopping centres had bike lockers or decent bike stands and gear lockers for hire, and maybe hire these trailers as well, then people could cycle in, do the shopping for the family and cycle back. Other leisure trips might be possible too. Alas the idea of cycling on most SYdney roads with suburban Sydney drivers is probably so terrifying to most people they'd never do it. I'd do it but I'm also a motorcyclist so therefore suicidal in most people's minds... Zebee |
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"Claude" wrote: Couple of posts relevent to Australian cycling on this site. This one argues that commuting by bicycle in the suburbs has more potential than commuting to the CBD http://melbourneurbanist.wordpress.c...-in-melbourne/ The next day's article (URL is http://melbourneurbanist.wordpress.c...crease-commuti ng-by-bicycle/ ) had a paragraph that struck a chord with me. The key to network design is directness. Unlike recreational cyclists, commuters want to get from A to B the value of the journey itself is secondary. Hence the network must rely on using roads rather than trails, as the latter are often too circuitous (for example, my route from home to the CBD is 25 km via the Yarra Trail but only 8 km via road). my commute is on road. There is a cycle-path, but it is windier, hillier, and I have to give way more. -- K.A. Moylan Canberra, Australia Ski Club: http://www.cccsc.asn.au kamoylan at ozemail dot com dot au |
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Cycling to work in the suburbs
In aus.bicycle on Sun, 14 Mar 2010 22:50:47 +1100
K.A. Moylan wrote: my commute is on road. There is a cycle-path, but it is windier, hillier, and I have to give way more. My commute is mostly by cycle path these days as the direct route is much hillier! I do 20km instead of 17, but the extra are through pleasant riverside greenery so I cope. On the other hand, my previous commute only used the Harbour Bridge path, and about 300 metres of the Cooks River path because the cycle path route added from 5 to 10km and the 5km extra didn't help much with hills. That route into the CBD is "High traffic, experienced cyclists only" but I have no stories about horrible car behaviour. (I have few if any such stories, I dunno if I just don't notice or there's something about how I ride or the 'bent not being classed as bicycle by car drivers who treat it differently. But then I don't have death defying experiences on the motorcycle either, and it's a fairly standard version so I suspect it's that I ride the 'bent as traffic and are treated as same.) Zebee |
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"K.A. Moylan" wrote in message ... The next day's article (URL is http://melbourneurbanist.wordpress.c...crease-commuti ng-by-bicycle/ ) had a paragraph that struck a chord with me. The key to network design is directness. Unlike recreational cyclists, commuters want to get from A to B the value of the journey itself is secondary. Hence the network must rely on using roads rather than trails, as the latter are often too circuitous (for example, my route from home to the CBD is 25 km via the Yarra Trail but only 8 km via road). my commute is on road. There is a cycle-path, but it is windier, hillier, and I have to give way more. Yes, I think that is right. We cyclists rely on human effort so we are more sensitive to circuitous routes than drivers. I haven't ridden on a cycle path for years. Apart from taking me too far out of my way, cycle paths are also too narrow and busy to cycle quickly on. |
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