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Old January 4th 08, 08:01 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Simon Brooke
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Default A new year's resolution for all of us

Could we all make a set of new years resolutions as follows:

* I shall not contribute to any thread on uk.rec.cycling which is primarily
about motoring
* I shall not follow up to JNugent, Matt B or any of the other well-known
safespeed trolls
* I shall not contribute to any thread on uk.rec.cycling which is cross-
posted to any other group

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Old January 4th 08, 08:21 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Matt B
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Default A new year's resolution for all of us

Simon Brooke wrote:
Could we all make a set of new years resolutions as follows:


Are you telling us, or asking us?

* I shall not contribute to any thread on uk.rec.cycling which is primarily
about motoring


What's the point of that one? You're not interested in road safety
issues that may impact cyclists?

* I shall not follow up to JNugent, Matt B or any of the other well-known
safespeed trolls


You've already broken that one - remember?
http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk.rec.cycling/msg/993f55cc41d29312

Was it the resultant egg on your face that prompted this post?
http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk.rec.cycling/msg/7499657a0bd77b93
http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk.rec.cycling/msg/b462f072e7eb8199

* I shall not contribute to any thread on uk.rec.cycling which is cross-
posted to any other group


Maybe some of the narrower-minded of the urc old-guard will follow your
diktat, but I've noticed how refreshingly open-minded some of the newer
contributors here are, so I doubt that they'll toe the line.

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Matt B
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Old January 4th 08, 09:09 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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Default A new year's resolution for all of us

Matt B wrote:
Maybe some of the narrower-minded of the urc old-guard will follow your
diktat, but I've noticed how refreshingly open-minded some of the newer
contributors here are, so I doubt that they'll toe the line.


Another way of putting that might be "I've noticed that some of the
newer contributors haven't yet realised I'm a single-issue poster with
no interest in discussing any other aspect of cycling, and while I know
that sooner or later they'll put two and two together I hope the influx
will continue so that they in turn will be replaced by more easy targets
for my tedious hobbyhorsery".

It's a shame that the web-based forums all have such comparatively sucky
user interfaces, because they really are where the actual discussion
happens these days. Usenet is dead, film at any time you want.


-dan
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Old January 4th 08, 09:17 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Pete Biggs
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Default A new year's resolution for all of us

Simon Brooke wrote:
Could we all make a set of new years resolutions as follows:

* I shall not contribute to any thread on uk.rec.cycling which is
primarily about motoring
* I shall not follow up to JNugent, Matt B or any of the other
well-known safespeed trolls
* I shall not contribute to any thread on uk.rec.cycling which is
cross- posted to any other group


Just #2 for me. I /might/ be interested in a motoring thread one day, and I
don't object to threads x-posted to a couple of relevant groups.

~PB


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Old January 4th 08, 09:44 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
wafflycat
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Default A new year's resolution for all of us


"Simon Brooke" wrote in message
...
Could we all make a set of new years resolutions as follows:

* I shall not contribute to any thread on uk.rec.cycling which is
primarily
about motoring


Actually, I enjoy motoring as well as being on the bike (or trike). Maybe I
don't notice them, but are many threads *primarily* about motoring?

* I shall not follow up to JNugent, Matt B or any of the other well-known
safespeed trolls


Some of us have the trolls kill-filed anyhow

* I shall not contribute to any thread on uk.rec.cycling which is cross-
posted to any other group


I try not to cross-post anyhow, but occasionally have to slap my own wrist


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Old January 4th 08, 09:46 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Marc
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wafflycat wrote:

"Simon Brooke" wrote in message
...
Could we all make a set of new years resolutions as follows:

* I shall not contribute to any thread on uk.rec.cycling which is
primarily
about motoring


Actually, I enjoy motoring as well as being on the bike (or trike).
Maybe I don't notice them, but are many threads *primarily* about motoring?

* I shall not follow up to JNugent, Matt B or any of the other well-known
safespeed trolls


Some of us have the trolls kill-filed anyhow

I have the mattb one kill filed but keep forgetting the nugent one, I'll
have to try and remember the next time he pops up
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Old January 5th 08, 03:40 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Martin Dann
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wafflycat wrote:

"Simon Brooke" wrote in message
...
Could we all make a set of new years resolutions as follows:

* I shall not contribute to any thread on uk.rec.cycling which is
primarily
about motoring


Actually, I enjoy motoring as well as being on the bike (or trike).
Maybe I don't notice them, but are many threads *primarily* about motoring?


I don't see many primarily about motoring, but their are a lot that
touch on motoring in a way that directly applies to cycling. e.g. Road
safety.

* I shall not follow up to JNugent, Matt B or any of the other well-known
safespeed trolls


Some of us have the trolls kill-filed anyhow


The problem is that they occasionally jump out of my kill files, and I
usually put Matt B straight back in, but at the moment I am a bit bored.

* I shall not contribute to any thread on uk.rec.cycling which is cross-
posted to any other group


I try not to cross-post anyhow, but occasionally have to slap my own
wrist


Cross posted threads are not by definition bad. Many can be good.
However some crossposted to e.g. uk.wreck.driving will nearly always
descend into a troll/flame war.

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Old January 5th 08, 08:29 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Ekul Namsob
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Default A new year's resolution for all of us

Martin Dann wrote:

wafflycat wrote:

"Simon Brooke" wrote in message
...


* I shall not contribute to any thread on uk.rec.cycling which is cross-
posted to any other group


I try not to cross-post anyhow, but occasionally have to slap my own
wrist


Cross posted threads are not by definition bad. Many can be good.
However some crossposted to e.g. uk.wreck.driving will nearly always
descend into a troll/flame war.


Once the idiots have been killfiled (I do this simply by killing the
subthreads in which they appeared), it swiftly becomes possible to find
those who are willing to engage in intelligent debate. It should be
borne in mind by a few more people on this group that 'holder of views
with which I disagree' does not equal 'troll'.

Cheers,
Luke


--
Red Rose Ramblings, the diary of an Essex boy in
exile in Lancashire http://www.shrimper.org.uk
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Old January 6th 08, 12:18 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Simon Brooke
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Default A new year's resolution for all of us

Ekul Namsob wrote:

Martin Dann wrote:

wafflycat wrote:

"Simon Brooke" wrote in message
...


* I shall not contribute to any thread on uk.rec.cycling which is
cross-
posted to any other group

I try not to cross-post anyhow, but occasionally have to slap my own
wrist


Cross posted threads are not by definition bad. Many can be good.
However some crossposted to e.g. uk.wreck.driving will nearly always
descend into a troll/flame war.


Once the idiots have been killfiled (I do this simply by killing the
subthreads in which they appeared), it swiftly becomes possible to find
those who are willing to engage in intelligent debate. It should be
borne in mind by a few more people on this group that 'holder of views
with which I disagree' does not equal 'troll'.


Oh, indeed. My own killfile includes people who advance views with which I
agree, but do so repetitiously and in a way intended to provoke argument.

If someone wants to come along and make a cogent, coherent and well-mannered
argument that it is to the greater good of the community as a whole that
motorists should be permitted to kill people with impunity, then I'm
prepared not merely to listen but to engage in debate.

It's people who endlessly repeat the same tired and dishonest arguments
despite repeated rebuttal that end up in my bozo bin.

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IMHO, there aren't enough committed Christians, but that's care
in the community for you. -- Ben Evans

 




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