Dura Ace vs. Ultegra STI

In article ,
"S o r n i" wrote:

Jim Flom wrote:
"Churchill" wrote...

Dura-Ace is used by Lance Armstrong...would he risk using anything
but the very best ?!

Campy makes allot of noise due to the bearings ~

Troll.

You're giving him WAY too much credit.

Bill "allot (sic), even" S.

Maybe he meant "all out"...

--
tanx,
Howard

So far, so good, so what?

remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?

churchill- Dura-Ace is used by Lance Armstrong...would he risk using anything
but the
very best ?! BRBR

If shimano paid me the 6 figure income to ride their stuff, I would too(naww,
no I wouldn't)

He gets paid $100,000+ to use shimano-not the team, him.

Churchill Campy makes allot of noise due to the bearings BRBR


Those pesky bearings!! This makes no sense\.

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churchill- Dura-Ace is used by Lance Armstrong...would he risk using anything
but the
very best ?! BRBR

If shimano paid me the 6 figure income to ride their stuff, I would too(naww,
no I wouldn't)

He gets paid $100,000+ to use shimano-not the team, him.

Churchill Campy makes allot of noise due to the bearings BRBR


Those pesky bearings!! This makes no sense\.

Peter Chisholm
Vecchio's Bicicletteria
1833 Pearl St.
Boulder, CO, 80302
(303)440-3535
http://www.vecchios.com
"Ruote convenzionali costruite eccezionalmente bene"

Qui si parla Campagnolo wrote:
If shimano paid me the 6 figure income to ride their stuff, I would too(naww,
no I wouldn't)

He gets paid $100,000+ to use shimano-not the team, him.



No argument, although I haven't verified your figure. But if he WANTED
to ride Campy, he could certainly arrange for a switch in sponsorship,
no? Campagnolo would probably pay pretty close to the same figure if
Lance asked them to. Hell, Lance could probably buy six dozen complete
Record gruppos for the whole team and not even have a component sponsor
if he didn't like Shimano.

--
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Qui si parla Campagnolo wrote:
If shimano paid me the 6 figure income to ride their stuff, I would too(naww,
no I wouldn't)

He gets paid $100,000+ to use shimano-not the team, him.



No argument, although I haven't verified your figure. But if he WANTED
to ride Campy, he could certainly arrange for a switch in sponsorship,
no? Campagnolo would probably pay pretty close to the same figure if
Lance asked them to. Hell, Lance could probably buy six dozen complete
Record gruppos for the whole team and not even have a component sponsor
if he didn't like Shimano.

--
My bike blog:
http://diabloscott.blogspot.com/

"Diablo Scott" wrote in message
...
Qui si parla Campagnolo wrote:
If shimano paid me the 6 figure income to ride their stuff, I would
too(naww,
no I wouldn't)

He gets paid $100,000+ to use shimano-not the team, him.



No argument, although I haven't verified your figure. But if he WANTED
to ride Campy, he could certainly arrange for a switch in sponsorship,
no? Campagnolo would probably pay pretty close to the same figure if
Lance asked them to. Hell, Lance could probably buy six dozen complete
Record gruppos for the whole team and not even have a component sponsor
if he didn't like Shimano.

You got it !

"Diablo Scott" wrote in message
...
Qui si parla Campagnolo wrote:
If shimano paid me the 6 figure income to ride their stuff, I would
too(naww,
no I wouldn't)

He gets paid $100,000+ to use shimano-not the team, him.



No argument, although I haven't verified your figure. But if he WANTED
to ride Campy, he could certainly arrange for a switch in sponsorship,
no? Campagnolo would probably pay pretty close to the same figure if
Lance asked them to. Hell, Lance could probably buy six dozen complete
Record gruppos for the whole team and not even have a component sponsor
if he didn't like Shimano.

You got it !

On 14 Jul 2004 10:27:03 -0700, (Evan Evans)
wrote:

What is rediculous is some peoples blind allegiance to campy. I'm a
big fan of campy stuff for their history & contribution to the sport
but shamano is good also. In fact i think that the new d/a is the best
out there. Don't forget Campy has produced their share of junk
products over the years.

It's always bugged me that nobody seems to want to say CAMPAGNOLO,
opting instead for "campy". It's awful-sounding, vaguely derisive, and
cements in my mind the stereotype of the Ugly American utterly
unwilling to learn even a single word of a language that isn't his
own. Besides, I've never heard anyone say "Shimmy" for SHIMANO.

I've always preferred the British abbreviation, "Campag," which
besides being a staightforward truncation of the name, sounds better
to my ear.

Either one sounds horribly pretentious though.

-Luigi

On 14 Jul 2004 10:27:03 -0700, (Evan Evans)
wrote:

What is rediculous is some peoples blind allegiance to campy. I'm a
big fan of campy stuff for their history & contribution to the sport
but shamano is good also. In fact i think that the new d/a is the best
out there. Don't forget Campy has produced their share of junk
products over the years.

It's always bugged me that nobody seems to want to say CAMPAGNOLO,
opting instead for "campy". It's awful-sounding, vaguely derisive, and
cements in my mind the stereotype of the Ugly American utterly
unwilling to learn even a single word of a language that isn't his
own. Besides, I've never heard anyone say "Shimmy" for SHIMANO.

I've always preferred the British abbreviation, "Campag," which
besides being a staightforward truncation of the name, sounds better
to my ear.

Either one sounds horribly pretentious though.

-Luigi

On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 13:56:24 -0400, Luigi de Guzman
wrote:

On 14 Jul 2004 10:27:03 -0700, (Evan Evans)
wrote:

What is rediculous is some peoples blind allegiance to campy. I'm a
big fan of campy stuff for their history & contribution to the sport
but shamano is good also. In fact i think that the new d/a is the best
out there. Don't forget Campy has produced their share of junk
products over the years.

It's always bugged me that nobody seems to want to say CAMPAGNOLO,
opting instead for "campy". It's awful-sounding, vaguely derisive, and
cements in my mind the stereotype of the Ugly American utterly
unwilling to learn even a single word of a language that isn't his
own. Besides, I've never heard anyone say "Shimmy" for SHIMANO.

I've always preferred the British abbreviation, "Campag," which
besides being a staightforward truncation of the name, sounds better
to my ear.

Either one sounds horribly pretentious though.

-Luigi

Dear Luigi,

Shimano enthusiasts are rumoured to have a theory that
explains why Campagnolo aficionados refer to their beloved
machinery in a way that "sounds horribly pretentious."

Shimano enthusiasts are also said to believe that "Campy" is
not just a truncation, but a cruel pun.

Etymologically,

Carl Fogel