COVID and riding

On Thursday, October 22, 2020 at 2:45:14 PM UTC-7, news18 wrote:
On Thu, 22 Oct 2020 11:20:16 -0400, Frank Krygowski wrote:

On 10/22/2020 6:39 AM, news18 wrote:
On Wed, 21 Oct 2020 21:57:28 -0700, Tom Kunich wrote:

I could read and write by the third grade. I assume that was normal.
Pretty much for an average kid.

IME it's a bit slow.

Of the four kids I know most about, only the slowest had any difficulty
at all in reading by third grade. That is, the kid read a bit slowly and
didn't enjoy it much for a few years, but was fully functional.

One kid began reading about age 3, another age 4, the third age 5.
Congratulations. In my experience, it depends on the parents and whether
the parents value reading and do stuff like reading instead of being
glued to TV and other activities like reading to and with their kids.
How many children do you have? Cognitive ability quite closely tracks age and physical development of the brain and pretending that if you like something that will increase a child's ability to understand shows that you never grew up yourself.

On Thursday, October 22, 2020 at 4:35:13 PM UTC-7, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 10/22/2020 5:45 PM, news18 wrote:
On Thu, 22 Oct 2020 11:20:16 -0400, Frank Krygowski wrote:

On 10/22/2020 6:39 AM, news18 wrote:
On Wed, 21 Oct 2020 21:57:28 -0700, Tom Kunich wrote:

I could read and write by the third grade. I assume that was normal.
Pretty much for an average kid.

IME it's a bit slow.

Of the four kids I know most about, only the slowest had any difficulty
at all in reading by third grade. That is, the kid read a bit slowly and
didn't enjoy it much for a few years, but was fully functional.

One kid began reading about age 3, another age 4, the third age 5.

Congratulations. In my experience, it depends on the parents and whether
the parents value reading and do stuff like reading instead of being
glued to TV and other activities like reading to and with their kids.
I agree entirely!

BTW, the earliest of those readers began "reading" to us during a long
car trip. She was in a child seat in back with some little Beatrice
Potter books. They had been read to her so often that she "read" them to
us by memory. She was not yet three.

I hate to tell you this Frank but reciting from memory and probably illustrations is not "readying".

On 10/22/2020 7:47 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Thursday, October 22, 2020 at 4:35:13 PM UTC-7, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 10/22/2020 5:45 PM, news18 wrote:
On Thu, 22 Oct 2020 11:20:16 -0400, Frank Krygowski wrote:

On 10/22/2020 6:39 AM, news18 wrote:
On Wed, 21 Oct 2020 21:57:28 -0700, Tom Kunich wrote:

I could read and write by the third grade. I assume that was normal.
Pretty much for an average kid.

IME it's a bit slow.

Of the four kids I know most about, only the slowest had any difficulty
at all in reading by third grade. That is, the kid read a bit slowly and
didn't enjoy it much for a few years, but was fully functional.

One kid began reading about age 3, another age 4, the third age 5.

Congratulations. In my experience, it depends on the parents and whether
the parents value reading and do stuff like reading instead of being
glued to TV and other activities like reading to and with their kids.
I agree entirely!

BTW, the earliest of those readers began "reading" to us during a long
car trip. She was in a child seat in back with some little Beatrice
Potter books. They had been read to her so often that she "read" them to
us by memory. She was not yet three.

I hate to tell you this Frank but reciting from memory and probably illustrations is not "readying".

I hate to tell you this, Tom, but you failed to understand the
discussion yet again.

I know she was not reading when that incident took place. (She was also
not "readying" [sic]). She was reciting what was in her books from
memory because the books had been read to her so many times.

Here's the point, in bite sized chunks so even you can understand it:

We value reading very, very highly. We read to our kids very, very
frequently - so frequently that they memorized their favorite little books.

Partly because of that, this little one was _very_ highly motivated to
read. Within a year after that incident, she was honestly and actively
reading while still age 3. She essentially taught herself.

(Damn, Tom, an actual conversation with you requires an ocean of
patience just to get the concepts across!)

--
- Frank Krygowski

On Thu, 22 Oct 2020 16:47:53 -0700, Tom Kunich wrote:

On Thursday, October 22, 2020 at 4:35:13 PM UTC-7, Frank Krygowski
wrote:
On 10/22/2020 5:45 PM, news18 wrote:
On Thu, 22 Oct 2020 11:20:16 -0400, Frank Krygowski wrote:

On 10/22/2020 6:39 AM, news18 wrote:
On Wed, 21 Oct 2020 21:57:28 -0700, Tom Kunich wrote:

I could read and write by the third grade. I assume that was
normal.
Pretty much for an average kid.

IME it's a bit slow.

Of the four kids I know most about, only the slowest had any
difficulty at all in reading by third grade. That is, the kid read a
bit slowly and didn't enjoy it much for a few years, but was fully
functional.

One kid began reading about age 3, another age 4, the third age 5.

Congratulations. In my experience, it depends on the parents and
whether the parents value reading and do stuff like reading instead
of being glued to TV and other activities like reading to and with
their kids.
I agree entirely!

BTW, the earliest of those readers began "reading" to us during a long
car trip. She was in a child seat in back with some little Beatrice
Potter books. They had been read to her so often that she "read" them
to us by memory. She was not yet three.

I hate to tell you this Frank but reciting from memory and probably
illustrations is not "readying".

They are aids to learning to read. Turns a page of unknown symbols to
information. Do you think reading comes from a magic pill.

On Thu, 22 Oct 2020 16:46:41 -0700, Tom Kunich wrote:

On Thursday, October 22, 2020 at 2:45:14 PM UTC-7, news18 wrote:
On Thu, 22 Oct 2020 11:20:16 -0400, Frank Krygowski wrote:

On 10/22/2020 6:39 AM, news18 wrote:
On Wed, 21 Oct 2020 21:57:28 -0700, Tom Kunich wrote:

I could read and write by the third grade. I assume that was
normal.
Pretty much for an average kid.

IME it's a bit slow.

Of the four kids I know most about, only the slowest had any
difficulty at all in reading by third grade. That is, the kid read a
bit slowly and didn't enjoy it much for a few years, but was fully
functional.

One kid began reading about age 3, another age 4, the third age 5.
Congratulations. In my experience, it depends on the parents and
whether the parents value reading and do stuff like reading instead of
being glued to TV and other activities like reading to and with their
kids.
How many children do you have?
Err Tommy, getting your prick into a **** doesn't prove anything about
your ability to raise the product of that action.

Cognitive ability quite closely tracks
age and physical development of the brain and pretending that if you
like something that will increase a child's ability to understand shows
that you never grew up yourself.

Your logic is amazing. So your kids and step kids will be supid because
you're stupid. Poor *******s.

Hint, the your first assumption. Generally the ability/skill ranges
wobble around and none are absolutely essential for the other. It just
makes it easier for progression in some areas.

Am 22.10.2020 um 18:42 schrieb Tom Kunich:
On Thursday, October 22, 2020 at 8:20:21 AM UTC-7, Frank Krygowski
wrote:

One kid began reading about age 3, another age 4, the third age 5.

Inasmuch as children do not have the ability to think cognitively
until the age of 4 to 5 one has to wonder of what use reading would
be.

The age when children are able to think cognitively varies individually.
Children who are challenged with intellectual tasks develop cognitive
abilities much earlier than children who are challenged with mostly
physical tasks.

As a matter of fact, children growing up now develop their cognitive
abilities significantly earlier than children who grew up in the 1970's
but they are also significantly behind in their physical abilities and
co-ordination compared to then.

On Friday, October 23, 2020 at 12:44:27 AM UTC-7, Rolf Mantel wrote:
Am 22.10.2020 um 18:42 schrieb Tom Kunich:
On Thursday, October 22, 2020 at 8:20:21 AM UTC-7, Frank Krygowski
wrote:

One kid began reading about age 3, another age 4, the third age 5.

Inasmuch as children do not have the ability to think cognitively
until the age of 4 to 5 one has to wonder of what use reading would
be.
The age when children are able to think cognitively varies individually.
Children who are challenged with intellectual tasks develop cognitive
abilities much earlier than children who are challenged with mostly
physical tasks.

As a matter of fact, children growing up now develop their cognitive
abilities significantly earlier than children who grew up in the 1970's
but they are also significantly behind in their physical abilities and
co-ordination compared to then.

I agree with you to the point that it is extremely rare to have early brain growth while not that uncommon to have slower brain growth. One notes this instantly when you watch a child grow to maturity. This is a case of physical growth.