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On 2016-06-20 10:42, jbeattie wrote:
On Monday, June 20, 2016 at 8:31:28 AM UTC-7, Mark J. wrote: On 6/19/2016 5:28 PM, jbeattie wrote: On Sunday, June 19, 2016 at 1:13:37 PM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote: My own Dawn Patrol was wonderful and uneventful: http://www.channel3000.com/news/-Nak...dison/40117484 -- Yah, we got that, too -- next Saturday. https://pdxwnbr.org/ Remind me to ride west. I'm tired of weird. I was creeping along on tired legs today because I wiped myself out riding up Mt. Bachelor on Friday. http://www.glitteranddust.com/wp-con...54-768x768.jpg Central Oregon is usually dry this time of year, but not on Friday -- rain and sleet at the top. I was so hypothermic on the way down, I practically passed out -- or whatever you call it when your brain freezes and you start seeing Oprah at the end of a tunnel of light with coffee and doughnuts. I was starting to loose my grip on the bars and had to stop and gag down a Cliff bar in the rain. One of my top five miserable rides. The sun was out in PDX today, and so were all the cyclists. It was like the Mayfly hatch or the return of the Monarch Butterflies with all the bright colored jerseys. -- Jay Beattie. I stow a rolled-up plastic "kitchen" garbage bag in my tool kit, with arm and neck holes cut in it. Weighs perhaps 5g and takes up essentially zero room. It's been years since I've used one, but it's cheap insurance. Against hypothermia, not nudity, that is. -Mark J. My head was freezing, so I would have had to put the bag over my head -- which some people have suggested I do in other contexts. Actually, though, I could have used the garbage bag as an additional layer beneath my Showers Pass (product placement) rain jacket. I would have worn long finger gloves, but I didn't pack a pair. I did not expect Juneuary in Bend and brought my rain jacket as a precaution. The same thing happened to me once on Larch Mountain -- soaked to the bone and shivering so hard on the descent that I could hold on to my bars. I suppose a garbage bag might have helped then. My companions had more sophisticated equipment -- cell phones. They had married better, too, because their wives were willing to drive 30-40 miles to pick them up. I rode home, teeth chattering, doing my Captain Kirk impression . . . must . . . keep . . . riding. That reminds me of a chat with a very old guy in a nursing home many years ago. Around the great depression the only job he could find was as a telegram courier for Western Union in some big city way up north. Mainly because he had a bicycle and most other applicants didn't. Winter temps were generally below zero and the roads icy. He did his full shifts no matter what. The pay was a whopping 19 cents per hour. Bike wear and medical expenses when he crashed on the ice were not reimbursed. After that talk I vowed to never complain about working conditions. Out here it's the opposite in summer. Whenever it gets above 100F I cannot find others who'd ride with me. At least not for a 40-50 miler. So I am alone, greatly looking forward to a cold one in a saloon or prefrerably a brewpub on the way home. I also realized what the little weep hole below the BB is for: Release the sweat drips that seeped in. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ |
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On 6/20/2016 2:00 PM, Joerg wrote:
On 2016-06-20 10:42, jbeattie wrote: On Monday, June 20, 2016 at 8:31:28 AM UTC-7, Mark J. wrote: On 6/19/2016 5:28 PM, jbeattie wrote: On Sunday, June 19, 2016 at 1:13:37 PM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote: My own Dawn Patrol was wonderful and uneventful: http://www.channel3000.com/news/-Nak...dison/40117484 -- Yah, we got that, too -- next Saturday. https://pdxwnbr.org/ Remind me to ride west. I'm tired of weird. I was creeping along on tired legs today because I wiped myself out riding up Mt. Bachelor on Friday. http://www.glitteranddust.com/wp-con...54-768x768.jpg Central Oregon is usually dry this time of year, but not on Friday -- rain and sleet at the top. I was so hypothermic on the way down, I practically passed out -- or whatever you call it when your brain freezes and you start seeing Oprah at the end of a tunnel of light with coffee and doughnuts. I was starting to loose my grip on the bars and had to stop and gag down a Cliff bar in the rain. One of my top five miserable rides. The sun was out in PDX today, and so were all the cyclists. It was like the Mayfly hatch or the return of the Monarch Butterflies with all the bright colored jerseys. -- Jay Beattie. I stow a rolled-up plastic "kitchen" garbage bag in my tool kit, with arm and neck holes cut in it. Weighs perhaps 5g and takes up essentially zero room. It's been years since I've used one, but it's cheap insurance. Against hypothermia, not nudity, that is. -Mark J. My head was freezing, so I would have had to put the bag over my head -- which some people have suggested I do in other contexts. Actually, though, I could have used the garbage bag as an additional layer beneath my Showers Pass (product placement) rain jacket. I would have worn long finger gloves, but I didn't pack a pair. I did not expect Juneuary in Bend and brought my rain jacket as a precaution. The same thing happened to me once on Larch Mountain -- soaked to the bone and shivering so hard on the descent that I could hold on to my bars. I suppose a garbage bag might have helped then. My companions had more sophisticated equipment -- cell phones. They had married better, too, because their wives were willing to drive 30-40 miles to pick them up. I rode home, teeth chattering, doing my Captain Kirk impression . . . must . . . keep . . . riding. That reminds me of a chat with a very old guy in a nursing home many years ago. Around the great depression the only job he could find was as a telegram courier for Western Union in some big city way up north. Mainly because he had a bicycle and most other applicants didn't. Winter temps were generally below zero and the roads icy. He did his full shifts no matter what. The pay was a whopping 19 cents per hour. Bike wear and medical expenses when he crashed on the ice were not reimbursed. After that talk I vowed to never complain about working conditions. Out here it's the opposite in summer. Whenever it gets above 100F I cannot find others who'd ride with me. At least not for a 40-50 miler. So I am alone, greatly looking forward to a cold one in a saloon or prefrerably a brewpub on the way home. I also realized what the little weep hole below the BB is for: Release the sweat drips that seeped in. I knew a man who lived in Chicago in 1933~34 and had a job as a cashier at a movie theater. The pay was whatever you could short change patrons on a 5c admission. -- Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org/ Open every day since 1 April, 1971 |
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no arm or leg warmers ? no ski mask....no age 40 no more ?
you can really screw up your brain circulation/nervous system at your age. just like Brandt n Roll....... cruise on down n ice up or slide off the cliff..... some terrific video of Hampsten in there I dunno where .... as a non combatant, I did that twice at the 24 hrs...I was prepared and had read the weather forecast. I was alone. one wag suggested that poss I was the only person who cold read...... |
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too busy laughing at my own jokes https://www.google.com/#q=ANDY%20HAM...%3Ayoutube.com ///////////////////////////////////////// no arm or leg warmers ? no ski mask....no age 40 no more ? you can really screw up your brain circulation/nervous system at your age. just like Brandt n Roll....... cruise on down n ice up or slide off the cliff..... some terrific video of Hampsten in there I dunno where .... as a non combatant, I did that twice at the 24 hrs...I was prepared and had read the weather forecast. I was alone. one wag suggested that poss I was the only person who cold read...... |
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On Monday, June 20, 2016 at 1:42:14 PM UTC-4, jbeattie wrote:
On Monday, June 20, 2016 at 8:31:28 AM UTC-7, Mark J. wrote: I stow a rolled-up plastic "kitchen" garbage bag in my tool kit, with arm and neck holes cut in it. Weighs perhaps 5g and takes up essentially zero room. It's been years since I've used one, but it's cheap insurance. Against hypothermia, not nudity, that is. -Mark J. My head was freezing, so I would have had to put the bag over my head -- which some people have suggested I do in other contexts. Actually, though, I could have used the garbage bag as an additional layer beneath my Showers Pass (product placement) rain jacket. I would have worn long finger gloves, but I didn't pack a pair. I did not expect Juneuary in Bend and brought my rain jacket as a precaution. The same thing happened to me once on Larch Mountain -- soaked to the bone and shivering so hard on the descent that I could hold on to my bars. I suppose a garbage bag might have helped then. My companions had more sophisticated equipment -- cell phones. They had married better, too, because their wives were willing to drive 30-40 miles to pick them up. I rode home, teeth chattering, doing my Captain Kirk impression . . . must . . . keep . . . riding. I thought the "days of yore" solution to that problem was sheets of newspaper stuffed under one's jersey. I remember using that trick once when my young daughter got very cold on a ride. But given the death of printed newspapers and the ascendance of online news, I suppose carrying the trash bag really would be prudent. - Frank Krygowski |
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On 6/20/2016 10:42 AM, jbeattie wrote:
On Monday, June 20, 2016 at 8:31:28 AM UTC-7, Mark J. wrote: On 6/19/2016 5:28 PM, jbeattie wrote: On Sunday, June 19, 2016 at 1:13:37 PM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote: My own Dawn Patrol was wonderful and uneventful: http://www.channel3000.com/news/-Nak...dison/40117484 -- Yah, we got that, too -- next Saturday. https://pdxwnbr.org/ Remind me to ride west. I'm tired of weird. I was creeping along on tired legs today because I wiped myself out riding up Mt. Bachelor on Friday. http://www.glitteranddust.com/wp-con...54-768x768.jpg Central Oregon is usually dry this time of year, but not on Friday -- rain and sleet at the top. I was so hypothermic on the way down, I practically passed out -- or whatever you call it when your brain freezes and you start seeing Oprah at the end of a tunnel of light with coffee and doughnuts. I was starting to loose my grip on the bars and had to stop and gag down a Cliff bar in the rain. One of my top five miserable rides. The sun was out in PDX today, and so were all the cyclists. It was like the Mayfly hatch or the return of the Monarch Butterflies with all the bright colored jerseys. -- Jay Beattie. I stow a rolled-up plastic "kitchen" garbage bag in my tool kit, with arm and neck holes cut in it. Weighs perhaps 5g and takes up essentially zero room. It's been years since I've used one, but it's cheap insurance. Against hypothermia, not nudity, that is. -Mark J. My head was freezing, so I would have had to put the bag over my head -- which some people have suggested I do in other contexts. Actually, though, I could have used the garbage bag as an additional layer beneath my Showers Pass (product placement) rain jacket. I would have worn long finger gloves, but I didn't pack a pair. I did not expect Juneuary in Bend and brought my rain jacket as a precaution. The same thing happened to me once on Larch Mountain -- soaked to the bone and shivering so hard on the descent that I could hold on to my bars. I suppose a garbage bag might have helped then. My companions had more sophisticated equipment -- cell phones. They had married better, too, because their wives were willing to drive 30-40 miles to pick them up. I rode home, teeth chattering, doing my Captain Kirk impression . . . must . . . keep . . . riding. -- Jay Beattie. Oof, I didn't know you /already/ had a rain jacket with you. I suppose the over-the-head thing might have worked with breathing holes, but it's a bummer when those things slip and cover your eyes on a 40mph descent. But I had read too quickly and "heard" Mt. Hood when you "said" Mt. Bachelor, so I assumed this was a shorts-and-jersey ride in a warmer clime. Frank has already noted the newspaper-up-the-jersey-front trick (which does work; I have used century route sheets at times in desperation, though crumpled newspaper works better, though I wouldn't try it in a downpour.) I've also had good results with a plastic grocery bag between two thin jerseys in a pinch, during dry-but-cold rides; keeps drafts off the chest, and is easy to (responsibly) dispose of at your first stop when it warms up. For those not-cold-enough-for-a-jacket rides. Fortunately, summer has arrived/returned to western Oregon for now. Mark J. |
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On Monday, June 20, 2016 at 11:44:32 AM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
On 6/20/2016 12:42 PM, jbeattie wrote: On Monday, June 20, 2016 at 8:31:28 AM UTC-7, Mark J. wrote: On 6/19/2016 5:28 PM, jbeattie wrote: On Sunday, June 19, 2016 at 1:13:37 PM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote: My own Dawn Patrol was wonderful and uneventful: http://www.channel3000.com/news/-Nak...dison/40117484 -- Yah, we got that, too -- next Saturday. https://pdxwnbr.org/ Remind me to ride west. I'm tired of weird. I was creeping along on tired legs today because I wiped myself out riding up Mt. Bachelor on Friday. http://www.glitteranddust.com/wp-con...54-768x768.jpg Central Oregon is usually dry this time of year, but not on Friday -- rain and sleet at the top. I was so hypothermic on the way down, I practically passed out -- or whatever you call it when your brain freezes and you start seeing Oprah at the end of a tunnel of light with coffee and doughnuts. I was starting to loose my grip on the bars and had to stop and gag down a Cliff bar in the rain. One of my top five miserable rides. The sun was out in PDX today, and so were all the cyclists. It was like the Mayfly hatch or the return of the Monarch Butterflies with all the bright colored jerseys. -- Jay Beattie. I stow a rolled-up plastic "kitchen" garbage bag in my tool kit, with arm and neck holes cut in it. Weighs perhaps 5g and takes up essentially zero room. It's been years since I've used one, but it's cheap insurance. Against hypothermia, not nudity, that is. -Mark J. My head was freezing, so I would have had to put the bag over my head -- which some people have suggested I do in other contexts. Actually, though, I could have used the garbage bag as an additional layer beneath my Showers Pass (product placement) rain jacket. I would have worn long finger gloves, but I didn't pack a pair. I did not expect Juneuary in Bend and brought my rain jacket as a precaution. The same thing happened to me once on Larch Mountain -- soaked to the bone and shivering so hard on the descent that I could hold on to my bars. I suppose a garbage bag might have helped then. My companions had more sophisticated equipment -- cell phones. They had married better, too, because their wives were willing to drive 30-40 miles to pick them up. I rode home, teeth chattering, doing my Captain Kirk impression . . . must . . . keep . . . riding. -- Jay Beattie. Yecchh that sounds just awful unlike my pleasant rides recently. With practice you could be famous! http://i.ytimg.com/vi/7SLExZrEuow/maxresdefault.jpg Andy was a god! Personally, I prefer riding in falling snow to riding in near freezing rain, except for the traction issues and so long as I'm properly dressed. If I had to descend the Gavia in falling snow and a pair of arm warmers, I'd cry frozen tears and stop in the nearest town for espresso and a hot shower. "Honey, I'm in Italy -- could you come and get me?" And you can bet that the descent was pretty treacherous in fresh snow. I mentioned Larch Mountain, which is a nice, long fairly low angle climb, but there is often snow near the top in June, e.g. http://cyclingportland.com/wp-conten...ain.jpg?189db0 http://cyclingportland.com/chutes-ladders/ I did this on a sunny spring day, and I hit the snow going up and got pretty good grip so I kept going to the top . . . and then I had to sled, fish-tail, fall, squirm and walk back down. It was so much easier going up than coming down. I couldn't imagine what it was like descending the Gavia in that snow storm, in a race, trying to make time . . . in shorts. -- Jay Beattie. |
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On Monday, June 20, 2016 at 8:39:49 PM UTC-4, jbeattie wrote:
On Monday, June 20, 2016 at 11:44:32 AM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote: On 6/20/2016 12:42 PM, jbeattie wrote: On Monday, June 20, 2016 at 8:31:28 AM UTC-7, Mark J. wrote: On 6/19/2016 5:28 PM, jbeattie wrote: On Sunday, June 19, 2016 at 1:13:37 PM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote: My own Dawn Patrol was wonderful and uneventful: http://www.channel3000.com/news/-Nak...dison/40117484 -- Yah, we got that, too -- next Saturday. https://pdxwnbr.org/ Remind me to ride west. I'm tired of weird. I was creeping along on tired legs today because I wiped myself out riding up Mt. Bachelor on Friday. http://www.glitteranddust.com/wp-con...54-768x768.jpg Central Oregon is usually dry this time of year, but not on Friday -- rain and sleet at the top. I was so hypothermic on the way down, I practically passed out -- or whatever you call it when your brain freezes and you start seeing Oprah at the end of a tunnel of light with coffee and doughnuts. I was starting to loose my grip on the bars and had to stop and gag down a Cliff bar in the rain. One of my top five miserable rides. The sun was out in PDX today, and so were all the cyclists. It was like the Mayfly hatch or the return of the Monarch Butterflies with all the bright colored jerseys. -- Jay Beattie. I stow a rolled-up plastic "kitchen" garbage bag in my tool kit, with arm and neck holes cut in it. Weighs perhaps 5g and takes up essentially zero room. It's been years since I've used one, but it's cheap insurance. Against hypothermia, not nudity, that is. -Mark J. My head was freezing, so I would have had to put the bag over my head -- which some people have suggested I do in other contexts. Actually, though, I could have used the garbage bag as an additional layer beneath my Showers Pass (product placement) rain jacket. I would have worn long finger gloves, but I didn't pack a pair. I did not expect Juneuary in Bend and brought my rain jacket as a precaution. The same thing happened to me once on Larch Mountain -- soaked to the bone and shivering so hard on the descent that I could hold on to my bars. I suppose a garbage bag might have helped then. My companions had more sophisticated equipment -- cell phones. They had married better, too, because their wives were willing to drive 30-40 miles to pick them up. I rode home, teeth chattering, doing my Captain Kirk impression . . . must . . . keep . . . riding. -- Jay Beattie. Yecchh that sounds just awful unlike my pleasant rides recently. With practice you could be famous! http://i.ytimg.com/vi/7SLExZrEuow/maxresdefault.jpg Andy was a god! Personally, I prefer riding in falling snow to riding in near freezing rain, except for the traction issues and so long as I'm properly dressed. If I had to descend the Gavia in falling snow and a pair of arm warmers, I'd cry frozen tears and stop in the nearest town for espresso and a hot shower. "Honey, I'm in Italy -- could you come and get me?" And you can bet that the descent was pretty treacherous in fresh snow. I mentioned Larch Mountain, which is a nice, long fairly low angle climb, but there is often snow near the top in June, e.g. http://cyclingportland.com/wp-conten...ain.jpg?189db0 http://cyclingportland.com/chutes-ladders/ I did this on a sunny spring day, and I hit the snow going up and got pretty good grip so I kept going to the top . . . and then I had to sled, fish-tail, fall, squirm and walk back down. It was so much easier going up than coming down. I couldn't imagine what it was like descending the Gavia in that snow storm, in a race, trying to make time . . . in shorts. -- Jay Beattie. http://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/dailywx..._20160616.html http://www.wrh.noaa.gov/mesowest/get...1&num=72&raw=0 Port’s available database of who does what when n how is prob available. If Jay were a PDX radoneur, would he have arm n leg warmers n a balaclava under the seat ? Two, is this an allegorical tale ? |
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On Monday, June 20, 2016 at 8:45:56 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Monday, June 20, 2016 at 8:39:49 PM UTC-4, jbeattie wrote: On Monday, June 20, 2016 at 11:44:32 AM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote: On 6/20/2016 12:42 PM, jbeattie wrote: On Monday, June 20, 2016 at 8:31:28 AM UTC-7, Mark J. wrote: On 6/19/2016 5:28 PM, jbeattie wrote: On Sunday, June 19, 2016 at 1:13:37 PM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote: My own Dawn Patrol was wonderful and uneventful: http://www.channel3000.com/news/-Nak...dison/40117484 -- Yah, we got that, too -- next Saturday. https://pdxwnbr.org/ Remind me to ride west. I'm tired of weird. I was creeping along on tired legs today because I wiped myself out riding up Mt. Bachelor on Friday. http://www.glitteranddust.com/wp-con...54-768x768.jpg Central Oregon is usually dry this time of year, but not on Friday -- rain and sleet at the top. I was so hypothermic on the way down, I practically passed out -- or whatever you call it when your brain freezes and you start seeing Oprah at the end of a tunnel of light with coffee and doughnuts. I was starting to loose my grip on the bars and had to stop and gag down a Cliff bar in the rain. One of my top five miserable rides. The sun was out in PDX today, and so were all the cyclists. It was like the Mayfly hatch or the return of the Monarch Butterflies with all the bright colored jerseys. -- Jay Beattie. I stow a rolled-up plastic "kitchen" garbage bag in my tool kit, with arm and neck holes cut in it. Weighs perhaps 5g and takes up essentially zero room. It's been years since I've used one, but it's cheap insurance. Against hypothermia, not nudity, that is. -Mark J. My head was freezing, so I would have had to put the bag over my head -- which some people have suggested I do in other contexts. Actually, though, I could have used the garbage bag as an additional layer beneath my Showers Pass (product placement) rain jacket. I would have worn long finger gloves, but I didn't pack a pair. I did not expect Juneuary in Bend and brought my rain jacket as a precaution. The same thing happened to me once on Larch Mountain -- soaked to the bone and shivering so hard on the descent that I could hold on to my bars. I suppose a garbage bag might have helped then. My companions had more sophisticated equipment -- cell phones. They had married better, too, because their wives were willing to drive 30-40 miles to pick them up. I rode home, teeth chattering, doing my Captain Kirk impression . . . must . . . keep . . . riding. -- Jay Beattie. Yecchh that sounds just awful unlike my pleasant rides recently. With practice you could be famous! http://i.ytimg.com/vi/7SLExZrEuow/maxresdefault.jpg Andy was a god! Personally, I prefer riding in falling snow to riding in near freezing rain, except for the traction issues and so long as I'm properly dressed. If I had to descend the Gavia in falling snow and a pair of arm warmers, I'd cry frozen tears and stop in the nearest town for espresso and a hot shower. "Honey, I'm in Italy -- could you come and get me?" And you can bet that the descent was pretty treacherous in fresh snow. I mentioned Larch Mountain, which is a nice, long fairly low angle climb, but there is often snow near the top in June, e.g. http://cyclingportland.com/wp-conten...ain.jpg?189db0 http://cyclingportland.com/chutes-ladders/ I did this on a sunny spring day, and I hit the snow going up and got pretty good grip so I kept going to the top . . . and then I had to sled, fish-tail, fall, squirm and walk back down. It was so much easier going up than coming down. I couldn't imagine what it was like descending the Gavia in that snow storm, in a race, trying to make time . . . in shorts. -- Jay Beattie. http://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/dailywx..._20160616.html http://www.wrh.noaa.gov/mesowest/get...1&num=72&raw=0 Port’s available database of who does what when n how is prob available. If Jay were a PDX radoneur, would he have arm n leg warmers n a balaclava under the seat ? Two, is this an allegorical tale ? BTW, OUR DAY WAS NORMAL BUT COOLER LAST NIGHT. This afternoon with most of our usual white atmospheric mist gone off to Campeachy, fall arrived. My birds arrived on the eaves abt 20 to say HEY BIPOD ITS FALL AGAIN CHIRP CHIRP and so it was....big surprise. I saw this but didn't expect it to get here. Really nice mtn July weather in the Smokies. Big pull from my named storm and the last gasp of the Can Fire. |
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