Trucks parking in bicycle lanes

On Thursday, December 8, 2016 at 9:11:42 AM UTC-8, wrote:
On Wednesday, December 7, 2016 at 5:17:08 PM UTC-8, sms wrote:
http://oi68.tinypic.com/23kw8d3.jpg

I talked to the truck driver who was upset that I took a picture of his
truck and calmly explained to him that parking illegally in a bicycle
lane that is signed "No Stopping" was endangering cyclists like the one
in the picture. He was not happy about this explanation and began
verbally abusing me. I kept my cool. It's a terribly designed shopping
center and it's hard to do deliveries so trucks do this all the time.

I sent the photo to the sheriff's captain and our Public Works director
(a cyclist). I guess because I take office tomorrow I have a little more
influence now and got responses from both very quickly. They are going
to talk to the business owners and increase enforcement, and next year
they are going to begin working on a physical barrier which is really
the only practical solution since you can't expect the police to
constantly be monitoring the situation.

Traffic calming is one of my big pet peeves (of which I have a great many).

---
This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
https://www.avast.com/antivirus

Bicyclists who believe that other people should not make a living are one of the problems of why they are held in such low esteem. What you meant is that YOU might have been slowed down and wait for traffic to pass the truck before proceeding. My how respectful of you towards other people's jobs.

So if you're "making a living," you don't have to obey parking regulations and traffic laws? So those illegals in their trucks can buzz you on the canyon road if they're making a living? Next time I'm pulled over by a cop for a traffic infraction, I'll say, "but I'm making a living!" It's kind of like diplomatic immunity.

-- Jay Beattie.

On 12/8/2016 11:11 AM, wrote:
On Wednesday, December 7, 2016 at 5:17:08 PM UTC-8, sms wrote:
http://oi68.tinypic.com/23kw8d3.jpg

I talked to the truck driver who was upset that I took a picture of his
truck and calmly explained to him that parking illegally in a bicycle
lane that is signed "No Stopping" was endangering cyclists like the one
in the picture. He was not happy about this explanation and began
verbally abusing me. I kept my cool. It's a terribly designed shopping
center and it's hard to do deliveries so trucks do this all the time.

I sent the photo to the sheriff's captain and our Public Works director
(a cyclist). I guess because I take office tomorrow I have a little more
influence now and got responses from both very quickly. They are going
to talk to the business owners and increase enforcement, and next year
they are going to begin working on a physical barrier which is really
the only practical solution since you can't expect the police to
constantly be monitoring the situation.

Traffic calming is one of my big pet peeves (of which I have a great many).

---
This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
https://www.avast.com/antivirus

Bicyclists who believe that other people should not make a living are one of the problems of why they are held in such low esteem. What you meant is that YOU might have been slowed down and wait for traffic to pass the truck before proceeding. My how respectful of you towards other people's jobs.


Just riding my bicycle, minding my own business, other
people assume I will not stop at stop signs and assume my
politics/cultural ethos wrongly.

--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

On 12/8/2016 1:32 PM, AMuzi wrote:

Just riding my bicycle, minding my own business, other people assume I
will not stop at stop signs and assume my politics/cultural ethos wrongly.

I enjoy stopping for stop signs, just to show that it can be done on a
bike. ;-)

Actually, my most extreme case of hyper-obedience is an intersection I
ride almost daily - a "tee" on Main Street with the side street to the
right, the direction I'm turning. The traffic light has a sign hanging
next to it, "No Turn on Red" (only God knows why). And when I'm first
at the red, I diligently sit there just to show off my obedience.

OTOH, I _always_ violate the 25 mph speed limit on the downhill into the
village center. That's just for fun.


--
- Frank Krygowski

On 12/8/2016 9:11 AM, wrote:

snip

Bicyclists who believe that other people should not make a living are one of the problems of why they are held in such low esteem. What you meant is that YOU might have been slowed down and wait for traffic to pass the truck before proceeding. My how respectful of you towards other people's jobs.

Wait, so you believe that trucks should be allowed to illegally park in
no stopping zones so they don't have to drive around to the other side
of the building to make deliveries?

And that cyclists objecting to them breaking the law lowers the esteem
that they have for bicyclists?

Should the trucks have to stop at red lights? Those needless stops
reduce the number of deliveries that are possible.

Or were you being sarcastic and we are all too dense to realize it?


---
This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
https://www.avast.com/antivirus

On 12/7/2016 8:36 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:

snip

It doesn't surprise me that Scharf is a "protected cycle track"
advocate. Sheesh.

And it doesn't surprise me that Frank advocates for illegal parking in
bicycle lanes.

For anyone unfamiliar with U.S. traffic laws, if a road is posted as
"No Stopping," whether or not there is a bicycle lane, you can't stop
and make deliveries, stop to take a phone call, stop to eat lunch, or
stop to take a nap. No stopping means no stopping.

No Parking has a different meaning. You can actually stop in a no
parking zone. Whether or not you can stop in a no parking zone that is a
bicycle lane is not perfectly clear.

---
This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
https://www.avast.com/antivirus

On 12/8/2016 4:09 PM, sms wrote:
On 12/7/2016 8:36 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:

snip

It doesn't surprise me that Scharf is a "protected cycle track"
advocate. Sheesh.

And it doesn't surprise me that Frank advocates for illegal parking in
bicycle lanes.

Except that I did not advocate for illegal parking in bicycle lanes. Get
a grip!

--
- Frank Krygowski

On Thursday, December 8, 2016 at 1:06:19 PM UTC-8, sms wrote:
On 12/8/2016 9:11 AM, wrote:

snip

Bicyclists who believe that other people should not make a living are one of the problems of why they are held in such low esteem. What you meant is that YOU might have been slowed down and wait for traffic to pass the truck before proceeding. My how respectful of you towards other people's jobs..

Wait, so you believe that trucks should be allowed to illegally park in
no stopping zones so they don't have to drive around to the other side
of the building to make deliveries?

And that cyclists objecting to them breaking the law lowers the esteem
that they have for bicyclists?

Should the trucks have to stop at red lights? Those needless stops
reduce the number of deliveries that are possible.

Or were you being sarcastic and we are all too dense to realize it?

Regulations requiring deliveries to be made off-street at the back of a business have basically crushed American business. You and your liberal political class friends can just shove those regulations up your Lycra-clad a****!

-- Bubba.

On 12/8/2016 1:36 PM, jbeattie wrote:
On Thursday, December 8, 2016 at 1:06:19 PM UTC-8, sms wrote:

snip

Or were you being sarcastic and we are all too dense to realize it?

Regulations requiring deliveries to be made off-street at the back of a business have basically crushed American business. You and your liberal political class friends can just shove those regulations up your Lycra-clad a****!

-- Bubba.

Darn liberals!

But in this case, it's the bicycle lane that is in the back of the
business. So it would be more accurate to say:

Regulations requiring delivery trucks to make deliveries off-street,
without being allowed to park in no-stopping zones, have basically
crushed American business."

I am amazed that people are actually defending the right of trucks to
stop in no-stopping zones, that are also bicycle lanes, and put cyclists
in danger, in order to avoid having to drive around to the delivery
area. Actually nothing amazes me anymore when it comes to Frank.

-- Cletus

---
This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
https://www.avast.com/antivirus

On 12/8/2016 8:03 AM, Joerg wrote:
On 2016-12-07 17:15, sms wrote:
http://oi68.tinypic.com/23kw8d3.jpg

I talked to the truck driver who was upset that I took a picture of his
truck and calmly explained to him that parking illegally in a bicycle
lane that is signed "No Stopping" was endangering cyclists like the one
in the picture. He was not happy about this explanation and began
verbally abusing me. I kept my cool. It's a terribly designed shopping
center and it's hard to do deliveries so trucks do this all the time.

I sent the photo to the sheriff's captain and our Public Works director
(a cyclist). I guess because I take office tomorrow I have a little more
influence now and got responses from both very quickly. They are going
to talk to the business owners and increase enforcement, and next year
they are going to begin working on a physical barrier which is really
the only practical solution since you can't expect the police to
constantly be monitoring the situation.

Traffic calming is one of my big pet peeves (of which I have a great
many).


Ok, but be fair to the businesses. If you completely take away their
chances of receiving deliveries they will eventually leave. Then it can
look like this failed attempt of traffic calming in Sacramento:

OMG, who ever said that they can't receive deliveries. There are
delivery areas. These truck drivers just don't want to use them. They
have a sense of entitlement and don't believe that traffic laws apply to
them.



---
This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
https://www.avast.com/antivirus

On 12-08-2016 15:09, sms wrote:
For anyone unfamiliar with U.S. traffic laws, if a road is posted as
"No Stopping," whether or not there is a bicycle lane, you can't stop
and make deliveries, stop to take a phone call, stop to eat lunch, or
stop to take a nap. No stopping means no stopping.

Where have you been? Don't you know that every vehicle has a little
button that makes any spot a legal parking space? It's the one with the
little triangle on it.

--
Wes Groleau