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Old February 3rd 08, 04:14 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Colin McKenzie
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Default Driver who killed cyclist told to expect jail.

boulder wrote:
She may not have hit the
cyclist had she not been texting,


I thought that it was established that she did hit the cyclist?

Oh, you mean MIGHT not. Sorry, may for might is my current red rag.

but surely you cant ignore, completely,
the law breaking cyclist....had he stopped, as he
should, he's still alive.


Not completely, no. But he'd also, probably, still be alive if he'd
not stopped and hit or been hit by a pedestrian or another cyclist.

It's the difference between a small fine and a jail sentence - or
should be.

Colin McKenzie


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Old February 3rd 08, 04:43 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
David Hansen
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On Sun, 03 Feb 2008 16:14:58 +0000 someone who may be Colin McKenzie
wrote this:-

but surely you cant ignore, completely,
the law breaking cyclist....had he stopped, as he
should, he's still alive.


Not completely, no. But he'd also, probably, still be alive if he'd
not stopped and hit or been hit by a pedestrian or another cyclist.


As I understand it the cyclist stopped at the traffic lights and
then decided to set off while they were still red. I'm sure one of
the trolls could argue from this that he should not have stopped, in
much the same way that they argue motorists not obeying the law
reduces danger.


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Old February 3rd 08, 08:17 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Sir Jeremy
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Default Driver who killed cyclist told to expect jail.

On 3 Feb, 12:30, Paul Weaver wrote:
On Feb 3, 9:43 am, David Hansen
wrote:

On Sat, 02 Feb 2008 10:11:32 +0000 someone who may be Paul Boyd
usenet.is.worse@plusnet wrote this:-


She was doing 45mph in a 30mph limit, through a junction, whilst texting
on her phone.


Apparently she also had a long criminal career before this crash,
involving several cases of exceeding the speed limit.


The fact she had been caught 3 times on that stretch of road before
indicates she wasn't aware of her surroundings, I doubt she even knew
what the speed limit was, or what speed she was traveling at.

Had it been a pedestrian just walking, across the road, the same thing
would have happened, but there would be no blame for crossing without
a green man, and no complaints about a pedestrian not wearing a helmet
(which pedestrians should do when crossing, or walking near, the road
IMO)



and she wouldn't have got a discount on her sentence in those
circumstances. I'd have thought the cyclist's helmet would be
irrelevant because it wouldn't have made any difference to the tragic
outcome, which he contributed to by passing through the red light
 




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