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Bikers perform citizen's arrest after spotting pickpocket steal war hero's wallet
JNugent wrote:
On 16/11/2019 11:19, TMS320 wrote: On 15/11/2019 13:30, JNugent wrote: On 15/11/2019 13:19, Bod wrote: Strange that when I'm driving my car, I have no problem observing cyclists clearly. Half a mile away, in the dark, on dipped headlights? When cycling it provides no benefit, and I have no requirement or expectation to be seen from half a mile away. Not even at night, on a road where speeds of 60 or 70 mph are the norm? When driving on the type of roads that cyclists typically use, speed limits and sightlines do not require me to see them from half a mile away. You cannot know that. I would refer you, though, to the case of a (female) cyclist killed on the A23 a few years ago, cycling straight across a grade-separated interchange by following the demarcation line between the nearside through lane and the deceleration line leading to a slip road. Or it might have been the line between the acceleration and nearside lanes on the far side of the junction. Being ultra-visible in such a situation is crucial - *even* during daylight hours and hi-viz kelps even on a sunny day. You'd certainly notice an on-foot police traffic officer (and his car) at that distance. Well, unless you are one of those who is opposed to the use of headlights. Perhaps you should pay a visit to Specsavers. In Nugent's case, the problems go much deeper than eyesight. Oh dear... TMS has run out of witty things to say. Some time ago, of course. He is not very bright. Cyclists are not noted for intelligence. |
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Bikers perform citizen's arrest after spotting pickpocket stealwar hero's wallet
On 16/11/2019 15:36, TMS320 wrote:
On 16/11/2019 14:21, JNugent wrote: On 16/11/2019 13:16, TMS320 wrote: On 16/11/2019 11:43, JNugent wrote: On 16/11/2019 11:19, TMS320 wrote: On 15/11/2019 13:30, JNugent wrote: On 15/11/2019 13:19, Bod wrote: Strange that when I'm driving my car, I have no problem observing cyclists clearly. Half a mile away, in the dark, on dipped headlights? When cycling it provides no benefit, and I have no requirement or expectation to be seen from half a mile away. Not even at night, on a road where speeds of 60 or 70 mph are the norm? I don't cycle on 60/70mph roads. Right, and that applies to every cyclist in the world, does it? I had no idea that you had such power as an "influencer". You're the one telling me what I should wear. You're trying to change the subject. The subject is not you. perhaps you think it should be, but it isn't. When driving on the type of roads that cyclists typically use, speed limits and sightlines do not require me to see them from half a mile away. You cannot know that. I do know that. You cannot, so do not. If you have that much trouble, please return your driving licence before you harm somebody. Trying to change the subject isn't a good tactic. Trying to change it by posting gibberish is even worse. It isn't about me or about you. That should have been clear, even to you. I would refer you, though, to the case of a (female) cyclist killed on the A23 a few years ago, cycling straight across a grade-separated interchange by following the demarcation line between the nearside through lane and the deceleration line leading to a slip road. Or it might have been the line between the acceleration and nearside lanes on the far side of the junction. Being ultra-visible in such a situation is crucial - *even* during daylight hours and hi-viz kelps even on a sunny day. A fascinating anecdote but I have no idea what it is meant to demonstrate. It means that there are circumstances where being visible from as great a distance as is physically possible is not only desirable but imperative. You have no idea whatsoever whether visibility was the issue. Visibility, sight lines and reaction times are always issues on high-speed routes. But perhaps your view is that because you weren't there and "don't cycle on 60/70mph roads", it doesn't matter. That'd be in line with what you have posted above. |
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Bikers perform citizen's arrest after spotting pickpocket stealwar hero's wallet
On 17/11/2019 09:26, JNugent wrote:
On 16/11/2019 15:36, TMS320 wrote: On 16/11/2019 14:21, JNugent wrote: On 16/11/2019 13:16, TMS320 wrote: On 16/11/2019 11:43, JNugent wrote: On 16/11/2019 11:19, TMS320 wrote: On 15/11/2019 13:30, JNugent wrote: On 15/11/2019 13:19, Bod wrote: Strange that when I'm driving my car, I have no problem observing cyclists clearly. Half a mile away, in the dark, on dipped headlights? When cycling it provides no benefit, and I have no requirement or expectation to be seen from half a mile away. Not even at night, on a road where speeds of 60 or 70 mph are the norm? I don't cycle on 60/70mph roads. Right, and that applies to every cyclist in the world, does it? I had no idea that you had such power as an "influencer". You're the one telling me what I should wear. You're trying to change the subject. The subject is not you. perhaps you think it should be, but it isn't. When driving on the type of roads that cyclists typically use, speed limits and sightlines do not require me to see them from half a mile away. You cannot know that. I do know that. You cannot, so do not. If you have that much trouble, please return your driving licence before you harm somebody. Trying to change the subject isn't a good tactic. Trying to change it by posting gibberish is even worse. It isn't about me or about you. That should have been clear, even to you. I would refer you, though, to the case of a (female) cyclist killed on the A23 a few years ago, cycling straight across a grade-separated interchange by following the demarcation line between the nearside through lane and the deceleration line leading to a slip road. Or it might have been the line between the acceleration and nearside lanes on the far side of the junction. Being ultra-visible in such a situation is crucial - *even* during daylight hours and hi-viz kelps even on a sunny day. A fascinating anecdote but I have no idea what it is meant to demonstrate. It means that there are circumstances where being visible from as great a distance as is physically possible is not only desirable but imperative. You have no idea whatsoever whether visibility was the issue. Visibility, sight lines and reaction times are always issues on high-speed routes. Indeed. But you have no idea whatsoever whether visibility was the issue. But perhaps your view is that because you weren't there and "don't cycle on 60/70mph roads", it doesn't matter. That'd be in line with what you have posted above. FYI, I do drive on them. Do you cycle on them? |
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Bikers perform citizen's arrest after spotting pickpocket stealwar hero's wallet
On 17/11/2019 16:10, TMS320 wrote:
On 17/11/2019 09:26, JNugent wrote: On 16/11/2019 15:36, TMS320 wrote: On 16/11/2019 14:21, JNugent wrote: On 16/11/2019 13:16, TMS320 wrote: On 16/11/2019 11:43, JNugent wrote: On 16/11/2019 11:19, TMS320 wrote: On 15/11/2019 13:30, JNugent wrote: On 15/11/2019 13:19, Bod wrote: Strange that when I'm driving my car, I have no problem observing cyclists clearly. Half a mile away, in the dark, on dipped headlights? When cycling it provides no benefit, and I have no requirement or expectation to be seen from half a mile away. Not even at night, on a road where speeds of 60 or 70 mph are the norm? I don't cycle on 60/70mph roads. Right, and that applies to every cyclist in the world, does it? I had no idea that you had such power as an "influencer". You're the one telling me what I should wear. You're trying to change the subject. The subject is not you. perhaps you think it should be, but it isn't. When driving on the type of roads that cyclists typically use, speed limits and sightlines do not require me to see them from half a mile away. You cannot know that. I do know that. You cannot, so do not. If you have that much trouble, please return your driving licence before you harm somebody. Trying to change the subject isn't a good tactic. Trying to change it by posting gibberish is even worse. It isn't about me or about you. That should have been clear, even to you. I would refer you, though, to the case of a (female) cyclist killed on the A23 a few years ago, cycling straight across a grade-separated interchange by following the demarcation line between the nearside through lane and the deceleration line leading to a slip road. Or it might have been the line between the acceleration and nearside lanes on the far side of the junction. Being ultra-visible in such a situation is crucial - *even* during daylight hours and hi-viz kelps even on a sunny day. A fascinating anecdote but I have no idea what it is meant to demonstrate. It means that there are circumstances where being visible from as great a distance as is physically possible is not only desirable but imperative. You have no idea whatsoever whether visibility was the issue. Visibility, sight lines and reaction times are always issues on high-speed routes. Indeed. But you have no idea whatsoever whether visibility was the issue. But perhaps your view is that because you weren't there and "don't cycle on 60/70mph roads", it doesn't matter. That'd be in line with what you have posted above. FYI, I do drive on them. Do you cycle on them? Before I answer that, perhaps you could clarify whether visibility and sight lines (and their effects on reaction times) matter on high speed routes even if you don't cycle on them? |
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Bikers perform citizen's arrest after spotting pickpocket stealwar hero's wallet
On 17/11/2019 16:20, JNugent wrote:
On 17/11/2019 16:10, TMS320 wrote: On 17/11/2019 09:26, JNugent wrote: On 16/11/2019 15:36, TMS320 wrote: anecdote about killed cyclist snipped You have no idea whatsoever whether visibility was the issue. Visibility, sight lines and reaction times are always issues on high-speed routes. Indeed. But you have no idea whatsoever whether visibility was the issue. But perhaps your view is that because you weren't there and "don't cycle on 60/70mph roads", it doesn't matter. That'd be in line with what you have posted above. FYI, I do drive on them. Do you cycle on them? Before I answer that, perhaps you could clarify whether visibility and sight lines (and their effects on reaction times) matter on high speed routes even if you don't cycle on them? You missed my "indeed". But you still have no idea whatsoever whether visibility was the issue. |
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Bikers perform citizen's arrest after spotting pickpocket steal war hero's wallet
On Sat, 16 Nov 2019 18:21:11 GMT, "Mr Pounder Esquire"
wrote: JNugent wrote: On 16/11/2019 11:19, TMS320 wrote: On 15/11/2019 13:30, JNugent wrote: On 15/11/2019 13:19, Bod wrote: Strange that when I'm driving my car, I have no problem observing cyclists clearly. Half a mile away, in the dark, on dipped headlights? When cycling it provides no benefit, and I have no requirement or expectation to be seen from half a mile away. Not even at night, on a road where speeds of 60 or 70 mph are the norm? When driving on the type of roads that cyclists typically use, speed limits and sightlines do not require me to see them from half a mile away. You cannot know that. I would refer you, though, to the case of a (female) cyclist killed on the A23 a few years ago, cycling straight across a grade-separated interchange by following the demarcation line between the nearside through lane and the deceleration line leading to a slip road. Or it might have been the line between the acceleration and nearside lanes on the far side of the junction. Being ultra-visible in such a situation is crucial - *even* during daylight hours and hi-viz kelps even on a sunny day. You'd certainly notice an on-foot police traffic officer (and his car) at that distance. Well, unless you are one of those who is opposed to the use of headlights. Perhaps you should pay a visit to Specsavers. In Nugent's case, the problems go much deeper than eyesight. Oh dear... TMS has run out of witty things to say. Some time ago, of course. He is not very bright. Cyclists are not noted for intelligence. People who aren't very bright often repeatedly post the same tired insults. -- Bah, and indeed, Humbug. |
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