Council that fined girl, 5, for running lemonade stand slaps bikeshop owners with penalty for offering a free pump

On 03/08/2017 05:12, Bret Cahill wrote:

In many states fuel stations are required by law to turn on the vehicle air compressor for cyclists.

For free.

Is this the case anywhere in the UK?

No.

Filling stations are not even required to provide free air for real
customers.

On 03/08/2017 11:03, TMS320 wrote:
On 03/08/17 00:13, JNugent wrote:
On 02/08/2017 21:01, TMS320 wrote:

Oh, I accept that the bureacratic mind has nothing to do with
rocket science. Rocket science is considerably less complicated.

If you don't understand administrative law (nothing necessarily
anything to be ashamed of), the best advice is: don't try to comment
on it.

Have you ever seen anything of mine that attempts to inform or explain
an issue of human manufactured law?

If most people don't understand the way of the bureaucrat, anybody can
damn well comment on it.

The bureaucrat does not make the law. He administers it.

If you have a problem with the law (as many cyclists clearly do), your
only recourse is your MP.

On Thu, 03 Aug 2017 12:27:43 +0100, Bod wrote:

On 03/08/2017 11:57, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Thu, 03 Aug 2017 11:51:50 +0100, Bod wrote:

On 03/08/2017 11:46, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Thu, 03 Aug 2017 00:14:39 +0100, JNugent
wrote:

On 02/08/2017 13:23, soup wrote:
On 02/08/2017 11:35, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Wed, 02 Aug 2017 10:32:08 +0100, soup wrote:
On 31/07/2017 16:01, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:

The bicycle is irrelevant. Most towns have shops with a few goods
outside to encourage custom. And the council are blatantly
lying. You
can see in the first photo in the article that it isn't a narrow
pavement.
Looks pretty narrow to me.
https://postimg.org/image/l9idspecv/
See where the cars are parked, then the shops display items filling
the
remaining gap.
Yes I know this is not the aspect that has the pump, but I tend to
think
the pump was not why the council got nippy in the first
Oh those poor pedestrians having to walk round something.... For
****'s sake people need to stop being so damn pedantic and get on
with
life.

..and people with pushchairs or wheelchairs have they to stop being
"so
damn pedantic"? Hardly room to walk between those bikes and those
cars never mind if you are carrying shopping or, heaven forbid in a
wheelchair.

+1.

The footway, no matter how wide or narrow it may be, should be
available
in its entirety for legitimate pedestrian uses, including the
pushing of
prams and similar items.

HA! **** you!

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/londo...-a3602366.html



I already posted that link earlier.

I was not aware of this m'lud.

I do not accept excuses in this court.

I do not recognise your laws.

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On 03/08/2017 12:57, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Thu, 03 Aug 2017 12:27:43 +0100, Bod wrote:

On 03/08/2017 11:57, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Thu, 03 Aug 2017 11:51:50 +0100, Bod wrote:

On 03/08/2017 11:46, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Thu, 03 Aug 2017 00:14:39 +0100, JNugent
wrote:

On 02/08/2017 13:23, soup wrote:
On 02/08/2017 11:35, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Wed, 02 Aug 2017 10:32:08 +0100, soup wrote:
On 31/07/2017 16:01, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:

The bicycle is irrelevant. Most towns have shops with a few
goods
outside to encourage custom. And the council are blatantly
lying. You
can see in the first photo in the article that it isn't a narrow
pavement.
Looks pretty narrow to me.
https://postimg.org/image/l9idspecv/
See where the cars are parked, then the shops display items
filling
the
remaining gap.
Yes I know this is not the aspect that has the pump, but I tend to
think
the pump was not why the council got nippy in the first
Oh those poor pedestrians having to walk round something.... For
****'s sake people need to stop being so damn pedantic and get on
with
life.

..and people with pushchairs or wheelchairs have they to stop being
"so
damn pedantic"? Hardly room to walk between those bikes and those
cars never mind if you are carrying shopping or, heaven forbid in a
wheelchair.

+1.

The footway, no matter how wide or narrow it may be, should be
available
in its entirety for legitimate pedestrian uses, including the
pushing of
prams and similar items.

HA! **** you!

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/londo...-a3602366.html




I already posted that link earlier.

I was not aware of this m'lud.

I do not accept excuses in this court.

I do not recognise your laws.

TAKE HIM DOWN!!!!

On 03-Aug-17 1:03 PM, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Thu, 03 Aug 2017 12:27:07 +0100, Tony Dragon
wrote:

On 03-Aug-17 12:03 PM, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Thu, 03 Aug 2017 11:45:32 +0100, Tony Dragon
wrote:

On 02-Aug-17 11:49 PM, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Wed, 02 Aug 2017 23:43:44 +0100, Tony Dragon
wrote:

On 02-Aug-17 10:09 PM, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Wed, 02 Aug 2017 21:43:36 +0100, Tony Dragon
wrote:

On 02-Aug-17 8:13 PM, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Wed, 02 Aug 2017 20:07:01 +0100, Tony Dragon
wrote:

On 02-Aug-17 4:25 PM, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Wed, 02 Aug 2017 16:21:53 +0100, soup

wrote:

On 02/08/2017 13:49, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Wed, 02 Aug 2017 13:23:30 +0100, soup

wrote:

On 02/08/2017 11:35, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Wed, 02 Aug 2017 10:32:08 +0100, soup wrote:
On 31/07/2017 16:01, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:

The bicycle is irrelevant. Most towns have shops with
a few
goods
outside to encourage custom. And the council are
blatantly
lying.
You
can see in the first photo in the article that it isn't a
narrow
pavement.
Looks pretty narrow to me.
https://postimg.org/image/l9idspecv/
See where the cars are parked, then the shops display items
filling the
remaining gap.
Yes I know this is not the aspect that has the pump, but I
tend to
think
the pump was not why the council got nippy in the first
Oh those poor pedestrians having to walk round something....
For
****'s
sake people need to stop being so damn pedantic and get on
with
life.
..and people with pushchairs or wheelchairs have they to stop
being "so
damn pedantic"? Hardly room to walk between those bikes
and
those
cars never mind if you are carrying shopping or, heaven
forbid
in a
wheelchair.

If the wheelchair or pram can't get through where I can walk
through,
it's unfit for purpose.

Bull****, a wheelchair is a lot wider than a person walking.

Then it shouldn't be.

How can a wheelchair not be wider than the person sitting in it?

Because your arse is not as wide as your shoulders/arms.

And it should be able to traverse a kerb to go
round the obstruction.

So you want them to go in the road, don't forget they have to go
down
the kerb perpendicular to it, get past the obstruction, and then
go up
the kerb in the same way.

And the wheels should be capable of this. How do they cope with
wheelie
bins?

Besides
which the pavement would be wide enough if private companies
didn't
clutter it with their crap

99% of people might be interested in the bicycles. 1% of people
might
be obstructed. They lose 99 to 1.

Hardly likely that 99% of people will be interested in cycles.

It will be a hell of a lot more than the number in chairs.

Why change the entire world for them instead of
just changing their wheelchairs? Your taxes are funding the
disabled
folk.

Your not changing the entire world you are just telling people
they
can't clutter up what are essentially public areas with
private
crap

The entire world has been ****ed over by the disabled. They
think
they
have the right to be able to go everywhere in their chairs.

So you want them to be second class people.

If I was disabled I'd not expect every single place in the world
to be
made wheelchair friendly. I'd go to the places that were.

Just as, as a vegetarian, I don't expect every restaurant to cater
for me.

****ing
ramps everywhere, extra expense for all. Parking spaces marked
disabled
everywhere (although they're handy as they're always empty for
me to
use).

Can you post a picture of you using a disabled bay without a blue
badge,
please give date, time and location.

**** off grasser.

You must be really proud of this post.

Unlike you I can think straight. Why do we have 10 disabled parking
bays at a supermarket when only 1 has a disabled person in it,
and the
rest are left empty?

Must be a strange supermarket, not like any I have seen.

Doesn't have to be a supermarket. There's a law that requires
something
like 8% of your parking spaces to be for the disabled, yet there
aren't
8% disabled.

Could you quote that law?

No, because I'm not interested in it.

You must be, because you mentioned it.

I mentioned to my neighbour the other day that my other neighbour had
bought a Mercedes. Does that mean I'm interested in Mercedes cars?


You seem to be interested in a law that you don't know about.

But I know for a fact that it
exists, as my place of work was forced to obey it when they rebuilt
their car park.

Probably not a law then, but a condition of planning.

Something they had to follow, by law.

However the management sent round en email telling us
to ignore all but two of the spaces. We also had to park over the
lines, since disabled bays are wider and were wasting precious space.

Everybody knows that you can get a wheelchair out in the same space as a
normal parking space.

Not my problem.


Your compassion is noted.

My last place of work had 10 spaces, and we had 1 disabled
woman, and 1 fat woman who claimed she was disabled.

So you don't know if she was disabled.

I knew her enough to know all that was wrong was she was severely
obese. She could only use a 4x4 as other cars bottomed out on the
suspension.

See above.

Being obese is self inflicted. There should be no assistance with it
whatsoever.


But was that her disability?

Are we expecting more invalids soon?

Who is this 'we'?

The people who make the crazy laws, do try to keep up at the back.

You used the word 'we', now you say you are making laws.

I didn't say me or I.

Perhaps you should learn the use of English.

Perhaps you should learn a more modern English.


You said 'we' is the people making laws, when you use the word 'we' it
includes yourself.


Why does the country spend millions making everything disabled
friendly,
instead of thousands making the disabled able to cope with things as
they are?

Do please tell this group how many thousands it would take to help
the
disabled to cope, and what you would suggest doing?

Upgrading a few wheelchairs is cheaper than modifying all the
pavements.

So no answer then.

The answer is: "Upgrading a few wheelchairs". Is your disability
blindness?

See above.

Why do you object to buying a decent chair?


If I had need of one, I would buy the best I could afford.

What gives the government the right to take my taxes and spend
them on
things I didn't authorise? You want to help the disabled, you give
money to a charity, but taking it from me is THEFT.

What charity would be able to provide closer access to facilities
that
the disabled might want to use?

Who cares? The point is money should not be taken from someone if
they
don't wish it to be.

So no answer then.

You agree with mass theft do you?

Nothing to do with the question asked.

My taxes are paying for the likes of you to have the entire country made
nice for you. I didn't authorise that payment from my bank account.
You stole it.


For some reason you seem to think that I am disabled.

And why are you in a cycling group? Wheelchairs aren't bicycles.


Because this thread is about a cyclist shop, you can read the subject
title can't you?


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On Thu, 03 Aug 2017 13:05:51 +0100, Bod wrote:

On 03/08/2017 12:57, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Thu, 03 Aug 2017 12:27:43 +0100, Bod wrote:

On 03/08/2017 11:57, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Thu, 03 Aug 2017 11:51:50 +0100, Bod wrote:

On 03/08/2017 11:46, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Thu, 03 Aug 2017 00:14:39 +0100, JNugent
wrote:

On 02/08/2017 13:23, soup wrote:
On 02/08/2017 11:35, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Wed, 02 Aug 2017 10:32:08 +0100, soup wrote:
On 31/07/2017 16:01, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:

The bicycle is irrelevant. Most towns have shops with a few
goods
outside to encourage custom. And the council are blatantly
lying. You
can see in the first photo in the article that it isn't a narrow
pavement.
Looks pretty narrow to me.
https://postimg.org/image/l9idspecv/
See where the cars are parked, then the shops display items
filling
the
remaining gap.
Yes I know this is not the aspect that has the pump, but I tend to
think
the pump was not why the council got nippy in the first
Oh those poor pedestrians having to walk round something.... For
****'s sake people need to stop being so damn pedantic and get on
with
life.

..and people with pushchairs or wheelchairs have they to stop being
"so
damn pedantic"? Hardly room to walk between those bikes and those
cars never mind if you are carrying shopping or, heaven forbid in a
wheelchair.

+1.

The footway, no matter how wide or narrow it may be, should be
available
in its entirety for legitimate pedestrian uses, including the
pushing of
prams and similar items.

HA! **** you!

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/londo...-a3602366.html




I already posted that link earlier.

I was not aware of this m'lud.

I do not accept excuses in this court.

I do not recognise your laws.

TAKE HIM DOWN!!!!

[taser activated]

Oooh that tickles!

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On Thu, 03 Aug 2017 13:16:36 +0100, Tony Dragon wrote:

On 03-Aug-17 1:03 PM, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Thu, 03 Aug 2017 12:27:07 +0100, Tony Dragon
wrote:

On 03-Aug-17 12:03 PM, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Thu, 03 Aug 2017 11:45:32 +0100, Tony Dragon
wrote:

On 02-Aug-17 11:49 PM, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Wed, 02 Aug 2017 23:43:44 +0100, Tony Dragon
wrote:

On 02-Aug-17 10:09 PM, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Wed, 02 Aug 2017 21:43:36 +0100, Tony Dragon
wrote:

On 02-Aug-17 8:13 PM, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Wed, 02 Aug 2017 20:07:01 +0100, Tony Dragon
wrote:

Can you post a picture of you using a disabled bay without a blue
badge,
please give date, time and location.

**** off grasser.

You must be really proud of this post.

Unlike you I can think straight. Why do we have 10 disabled parking
bays at a supermarket when only 1 has a disabled person in it,
and the
rest are left empty?

Must be a strange supermarket, not like any I have seen.

Doesn't have to be a supermarket. There's a law that requires
something
like 8% of your parking spaces to be for the disabled, yet there
aren't
8% disabled.

Could you quote that law?

No, because I'm not interested in it.

You must be, because you mentioned it.

I mentioned to my neighbour the other day that my other neighbour had
bought a Mercedes. Does that mean I'm interested in Mercedes cars?

You seem to be interested in a law that you don't know about.

No, I'm annoyed by it, not interested.

But I know for a fact that it
exists, as my place of work was forced to obey it when they rebuilt
their car park.

Probably not a law then, but a condition of planning.

Something they had to follow, by law.

However the management sent round en email telling us
to ignore all but two of the spaces. We also had to park over the
lines, since disabled bays are wider and were wasting precious space.

Everybody knows that you can get a wheelchair out in the same space as a
normal parking space.

Not my problem.

Your compassion is noted.

I didn't make those people disabled, I have no need to feel sorry for them.

My last place of work had 10 spaces, and we had 1 disabled
woman, and 1 fat woman who claimed she was disabled.

So you don't know if she was disabled.

I knew her enough to know all that was wrong was she was severely
obese. She could only use a 4x4 as other cars bottomed out on the
suspension.

See above.

Being obese is self inflicted. There should be no assistance with it
whatsoever.

But was that her disability?

Yes. She was in fact so fat her legs could not carry her up a flight of stairs.

Are we expecting more invalids soon?

Who is this 'we'?

The people who make the crazy laws, do try to keep up at the back.

You used the word 'we', now you say you are making laws.

I didn't say me or I.

Perhaps you should learn the use of English.

Perhaps you should learn a more modern English.

You said 'we' is the people making laws, when you use the word 'we' it
includes yourself.

No it doesn't. I could mean "my country" - as in "we're invading Iraq" does not necessarily mean I'm a solider on the front.

Why does the country spend millions making everything disabled
friendly,
instead of thousands making the disabled able to cope with things as
they are?

Do please tell this group how many thousands it would take to help
the
disabled to cope, and what you would suggest doing?

Upgrading a few wheelchairs is cheaper than modifying all the
pavements.

So no answer then.

The answer is: "Upgrading a few wheelchairs". Is your disability
blindness?

See above.

Why do you object to buying a decent chair?

If I had need of one, I would buy the best I could afford.

You should buy what you need to be able to fit in with everyone else, and not expect everyone else to change their ways to suit you.

What gives the government the right to take my taxes and spend
them on
things I didn't authorise? You want to help the disabled, you give
money to a charity, but taking it from me is THEFT.

What charity would be able to provide closer access to facilities
that
the disabled might want to use?

Who cares? The point is money should not be taken from someone if
they
don't wish it to be.

So no answer then.

You agree with mass theft do you?

Nothing to do with the question asked.

My taxes are paying for the likes of you to have the entire country made
nice for you. I didn't authorise that payment from my bank account.
You stole it.

For some reason you seem to think that I am disabled.

I can't think of any other reason you'd stand up for them so much.

And why are you in a cycling group? Wheelchairs aren't bicycles.

Because this thread is about a cyclist shop, you can read the subject
title can't you?

But you're in the group, and you can't cycle if you're disabled.

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On Thursday, August 3, 2017 at 1:52:52 PM UTC+1, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Thu, 03 Aug 2017 13:16:36 +0100, Tony Dragon wrote:

On 03-Aug-17 1:03 PM, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Thu, 03 Aug 2017 12:27:07 +0100, Tony Dragon
wrote:

On 03-Aug-17 12:03 PM, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Thu, 03 Aug 2017 11:45:32 +0100, Tony Dragon
wrote:

On 02-Aug-17 11:49 PM, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Wed, 02 Aug 2017 23:43:44 +0100, Tony Dragon
wrote:

On 02-Aug-17 10:09 PM, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Wed, 02 Aug 2017 21:43:36 +0100, Tony Dragon
wrote:

On 02-Aug-17 8:13 PM, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Wed, 02 Aug 2017 20:07:01 +0100, Tony Dragon
wrote:

Can you post a picture of you using a disabled bay without a blue
badge,
please give date, time and location.

**** off grasser.

You must be really proud of this post.

Unlike you I can think straight. Why do we have 10 disabled parking
bays at a supermarket when only 1 has a disabled person in it,
and the
rest are left empty?

Must be a strange supermarket, not like any I have seen.

Doesn't have to be a supermarket. There's a law that requires
something
like 8% of your parking spaces to be for the disabled, yet there
aren't
8% disabled.

Could you quote that law?

No, because I'm not interested in it.

You must be, because you mentioned it.

I mentioned to my neighbour the other day that my other neighbour had
bought a Mercedes. Does that mean I'm interested in Mercedes cars?

You seem to be interested in a law that you don't know about.

No, I'm annoyed by it, not interested.

But I know for a fact that it
exists, as my place of work was forced to obey it when they rebuilt
their car park.

Probably not a law then, but a condition of planning.

Something they had to follow, by law.

However the management sent round en email telling us
to ignore all but two of the spaces. We also had to park over the
lines, since disabled bays are wider and were wasting precious space.

Everybody knows that you can get a wheelchair out in the same space as a
normal parking space.

Not my problem.

Your compassion is noted.

I didn't make those people disabled, I have no need to feel sorry for them.

My last place of work had 10 spaces, and we had 1 disabled
woman, and 1 fat woman who claimed she was disabled.

So you don't know if she was disabled.

I knew her enough to know all that was wrong was she was severely
obese. She could only use a 4x4 as other cars bottomed out on the
suspension.

See above.

Being obese is self inflicted. There should be no assistance with it
whatsoever.

But was that her disability?

Yes. She was in fact so fat her legs could not carry her up a flight of stairs.

Are we expecting more invalids soon?

Who is this 'we'?

The people who make the crazy laws, do try to keep up at the back.

You used the word 'we', now you say you are making laws.

I didn't say me or I.

Perhaps you should learn the use of English.

Perhaps you should learn a more modern English.

You said 'we' is the people making laws, when you use the word 'we' it
includes yourself.

No it doesn't. I could mean "my country" - as in "we're invading Iraq" does not necessarily mean I'm a solider on the front.

Why does the country spend millions making everything disabled
friendly,
instead of thousands making the disabled able to cope with things as
they are?

Do please tell this group how many thousands it would take to help
the
disabled to cope, and what you would suggest doing?

Upgrading a few wheelchairs is cheaper than modifying all the
pavements.

So no answer then.

The answer is: "Upgrading a few wheelchairs". Is your disability
blindness?

See above.

Why do you object to buying a decent chair?

If I had need of one, I would buy the best I could afford.

You should buy what you need to be able to fit in with everyone else, and not expect everyone else to change their ways to suit you.

What gives the government the right to take my taxes and spend
them on
things I didn't authorise? You want to help the disabled, you give
money to a charity, but taking it from me is THEFT.

What charity would be able to provide closer access to facilities
that
the disabled might want to use?

Who cares? The point is money should not be taken from someone if
they
don't wish it to be.

So no answer then.

You agree with mass theft do you?

Nothing to do with the question asked.

My taxes are paying for the likes of you to have the entire country made
nice for you. I didn't authorise that payment from my bank account.
You stole it.

For some reason you seem to think that I am disabled.

I can't think of any other reason you'd stand up for them so much.

And why are you in a cycling group? Wheelchairs aren't bicycles.

Because this thread is about a cyclist shop, you can read the subject
title can't you?

But you're in the group, and you can't cycle if you're disabled.

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Definition of a secretary:
An office fixture that isn't permanent until it's been screwed on the boss's desk.

Tony, It's about time you gave up on the loser.

On 03-Aug-17 3:18 PM, doug wrote:
On Thursday, August 3, 2017 at 1:52:52 PM UTC+1, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Thu, 03 Aug 2017 13:16:36 +0100, Tony Dragon wrote:

On 03-Aug-17 1:03 PM, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Thu, 03 Aug 2017 12:27:07 +0100, Tony Dragon
wrote:

On 03-Aug-17 12:03 PM, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Thu, 03 Aug 2017 11:45:32 +0100, Tony Dragon
wrote:

On 02-Aug-17 11:49 PM, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Wed, 02 Aug 2017 23:43:44 +0100, Tony Dragon
wrote:

On 02-Aug-17 10:09 PM, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Wed, 02 Aug 2017 21:43:36 +0100, Tony Dragon
wrote:

On 02-Aug-17 8:13 PM, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Wed, 02 Aug 2017 20:07:01 +0100, Tony Dragon
wrote:

Can you post a picture of you using a disabled bay without a blue
badge,
please give date, time and location.

**** off grasser.

You must be really proud of this post.

Unlike you I can think straight. Why do we have 10 disabled parking
bays at a supermarket when only 1 has a disabled person in it,
and the
rest are left empty?

Must be a strange supermarket, not like any I have seen.

Doesn't have to be a supermarket. There's a law that requires
something
like 8% of your parking spaces to be for the disabled, yet there
aren't
8% disabled.

Could you quote that law?

No, because I'm not interested in it.

You must be, because you mentioned it.

I mentioned to my neighbour the other day that my other neighbour had
bought a Mercedes. Does that mean I'm interested in Mercedes cars?

You seem to be interested in a law that you don't know about.

No, I'm annoyed by it, not interested.

But I know for a fact that it
exists, as my place of work was forced to obey it when they rebuilt
their car park.

Probably not a law then, but a condition of planning.

Something they had to follow, by law.

However the management sent round en email telling us
to ignore all but two of the spaces. We also had to park over the
lines, since disabled bays are wider and were wasting precious space.

Everybody knows that you can get a wheelchair out in the same space as a
normal parking space.

Not my problem.

Your compassion is noted.

I didn't make those people disabled, I have no need to feel sorry for them.

My last place of work had 10 spaces, and we had 1 disabled
woman, and 1 fat woman who claimed she was disabled.

So you don't know if she was disabled.

I knew her enough to know all that was wrong was she was severely
obese. She could only use a 4x4 as other cars bottomed out on the
suspension.

See above.

Being obese is self inflicted. There should be no assistance with it
whatsoever.

But was that her disability?

Yes. She was in fact so fat her legs could not carry her up a flight of stairs.

Are we expecting more invalids soon?

Who is this 'we'?

The people who make the crazy laws, do try to keep up at the back.

You used the word 'we', now you say you are making laws.

I didn't say me or I.

Perhaps you should learn the use of English.

Perhaps you should learn a more modern English.

You said 'we' is the people making laws, when you use the word 'we' it
includes yourself.

No it doesn't. I could mean "my country" - as in "we're invading Iraq" does not necessarily mean I'm a solider on the front.

Why does the country spend millions making everything disabled
friendly,
instead of thousands making the disabled able to cope with things as
they are?

Do please tell this group how many thousands it would take to help
the
disabled to cope, and what you would suggest doing?

Upgrading a few wheelchairs is cheaper than modifying all the
pavements.

So no answer then.

The answer is: "Upgrading a few wheelchairs". Is your disability
blindness?

See above.

Why do you object to buying a decent chair?

If I had need of one, I would buy the best I could afford.

You should buy what you need to be able to fit in with everyone else, and not expect everyone else to change their ways to suit you.

What gives the government the right to take my taxes and spend
them on
things I didn't authorise? You want to help the disabled, you give
money to a charity, but taking it from me is THEFT.

What charity would be able to provide closer access to facilities
that
the disabled might want to use?

Who cares? The point is money should not be taken from someone if
they
don't wish it to be.

So no answer then.

You agree with mass theft do you?

Nothing to do with the question asked.

My taxes are paying for the likes of you to have the entire country made
nice for you. I didn't authorise that payment from my bank account.
You stole it.

For some reason you seem to think that I am disabled.

I can't think of any other reason you'd stand up for them so much.

And why are you in a cycling group? Wheelchairs aren't bicycles.

Because this thread is about a cyclist shop, you can read the subject
title can't you?

But you're in the group, and you can't cycle if you're disabled.

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Tony, It's about time you gave up on the loser.


A good idea, but it was fun to let him dig himself into a bigger hole
each time.

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On Thu, 03 Aug 2017 16:08:30 +0100, Tony Dragon wrote:

On 03-Aug-17 3:18 PM, doug wrote:
On Thursday, August 3, 2017 at 1:52:52 PM UTC+1, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Thu, 03 Aug 2017 13:16:36 +0100, Tony Dragon wrote:

On 03-Aug-17 1:03 PM, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Thu, 03 Aug 2017 12:27:07 +0100, Tony Dragon
wrote:

On 03-Aug-17 12:03 PM, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Thu, 03 Aug 2017 11:45:32 +0100, Tony Dragon
wrote:

On 02-Aug-17 11:49 PM, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Wed, 02 Aug 2017 23:43:44 +0100, Tony Dragon
wrote:

On 02-Aug-17 10:09 PM, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Wed, 02 Aug 2017 21:43:36 +0100, Tony Dragon
wrote:

On 02-Aug-17 8:13 PM, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Wed, 02 Aug 2017 20:07:01 +0100, Tony Dragon
wrote:

Can you post a picture of you using a disabled bay without a blue
badge,
please give date, time and location.

**** off grasser.

You must be really proud of this post.

Unlike you I can think straight. Why do we have 10 disabled parking
bays at a supermarket when only 1 has a disabled person in it,
and the
rest are left empty?

Must be a strange supermarket, not like any I have seen.

Doesn't have to be a supermarket. There's a law that requires
something
like 8% of your parking spaces to be for the disabled, yet there
aren't
8% disabled.

Could you quote that law?

No, because I'm not interested in it.

You must be, because you mentioned it.

I mentioned to my neighbour the other day that my other neighbour had
bought a Mercedes. Does that mean I'm interested in Mercedes cars?

You seem to be interested in a law that you don't know about.

No, I'm annoyed by it, not interested.

But I know for a fact that it
exists, as my place of work was forced to obey it when they rebuilt
their car park.

Probably not a law then, but a condition of planning.

Something they had to follow, by law.

However the management sent round en email telling us
to ignore all but two of the spaces. We also had to park over the
lines, since disabled bays are wider and were wasting precious space.

Everybody knows that you can get a wheelchair out in the same space as a
normal parking space.

Not my problem.

Your compassion is noted.

I didn't make those people disabled, I have no need to feel sorry for them.

My last place of work had 10 spaces, and we had 1 disabled
woman, and 1 fat woman who claimed she was disabled.

So you don't know if she was disabled.

I knew her enough to know all that was wrong was she was severely
obese. She could only use a 4x4 as other cars bottomed out on the
suspension.

See above.

Being obese is self inflicted. There should be no assistance with it
whatsoever.

But was that her disability?

Yes. She was in fact so fat her legs could not carry her up a flight of stairs.

Are we expecting more invalids soon?

Who is this 'we'?

The people who make the crazy laws, do try to keep up at the back.

You used the word 'we', now you say you are making laws.

I didn't say me or I.

Perhaps you should learn the use of English.

Perhaps you should learn a more modern English.

You said 'we' is the people making laws, when you use the word 'we' it
includes yourself.

No it doesn't. I could mean "my country" - as in "we're invading Iraq" does not necessarily mean I'm a solider on the front.

Why does the country spend millions making everything disabled
friendly,
instead of thousands making the disabled able to cope with things as
they are?

Do please tell this group how many thousands it would take to help
the
disabled to cope, and what you would suggest doing?

Upgrading a few wheelchairs is cheaper than modifying all the
pavements.

So no answer then.

The answer is: "Upgrading a few wheelchairs". Is your disability
blindness?

See above.

Why do you object to buying a decent chair?

If I had need of one, I would buy the best I could afford.

You should buy what you need to be able to fit in with everyone else, and not expect everyone else to change their ways to suit you.

What gives the government the right to take my taxes and spend
them on
things I didn't authorise? You want to help the disabled, you give
money to a charity, but taking it from me is THEFT.

What charity would be able to provide closer access to facilities
that
the disabled might want to use?

Who cares? The point is money should not be taken from someone if
they
don't wish it to be.

So no answer then.

You agree with mass theft do you?

Nothing to do with the question asked.

My taxes are paying for the likes of you to have the entire country made
nice for you. I didn't authorise that payment from my bank account.
You stole it.

For some reason you seem to think that I am disabled.

I can't think of any other reason you'd stand up for them so much.

And why are you in a cycling group? Wheelchairs aren't bicycles.

Because this thread is about a cyclist shop, you can read the subject
title can't you?

But you're in the group, and you can't cycle if you're disabled.

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Tony, It's about time you gave up on the loser.


A good idea, but it was fun to let him dig himself into a bigger hole
each time.

I'm not the one digging the hole you silly left winger. Mr Smith's taxes should not pay for Mr Jones's misfortune because he was stupid enough to be run over by a bus and now thinks he's more important than everyone else because he's in a wheelchair.

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