Rethinking getting Surly Long Haul Trucker frame?

On Oct 12, 5:19*pm, Dan O wrote:
On Oct 12, 11:47*am, Sir Ridesalot wrote:









Hi there.

I'm rethinking getting a Surly Long Haul Trucker frameset.

I was about to go to the shop to get measured for a Surly Long Haul
Trucker frame.

*BUT*

The Surly website says that there is only a *3 year limited warranty*
on the frame and also *Not* to use a kickstand as the frame is not
designed for the loads a kickstand can produce. This is with either a
chainstay mounted one or one that mounts on the rear chainstay/
seatstay area.

This frame's regular price here is $550.00 CDN and is on sale for
$340.00 for a short time on existing stock.

Why only a 3 year warranty on a steel frame? I expected a lifetime
limited warranty at least on a steel touring frame. A 3 year limited
warranty on what's suposed to be a quality steel heavy duty touring
frame just doesn't make sense to me. Even many department store steel
BSOs have lifetime warranties on the frame. Again, why such a short
warranty period from Surly for the LHT frame? Has the quality dropped
a lot from what it used to be?

Any light you can shed on why there's such a short warranty period
will be immensely appreciated by me.

It's a commodity bike.

I like my LHT (at least I've grown used to it). *I got mine as a
complete bike, which I think offers a pretty decent complement of
components - compromised here and there for cost but not too much in
most of the places that matter, and I have replaced a few things to my
preference.

I will point out one quality indicator: *The front fork canti studs
appear (visibly) to be out of parallel alignment, which I suspect is
the cause of brake squeal that I have not been able to adjust away.

You're due a replacement fork under warranty.

kolldata wrote:
On Oct 12, 9:30 pm, kolldata wrote:
divinity deleted and remeber the pepper gas

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what's needed here is a list of relevant bicycle names for the search
box.
LOtter and AMuzi could rattle off 100.

Rivetts:

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Open every day since 1 April, 1971

Local Noise suggested 7-8 worthy used frames ?

My experience finding knockout used bikes for peanuts is in ateas
surrounding high income beach and retirement communities...or near
Brentwood for example. There are thrifts, Salvation Army, where
lurking in a corner are 4-5 slightly unused examples of late '70's
-90's cycles.
dissassemble, paint ID, grease and go. And save for a 2010 component
rebuild.
These bikes may be less robust than contemp bikes.
As to the LHT, what several of us bring forth, building the bike is
more rewarding all around than buying one tho frame then components
counts fersure.
I was looking for WW canoes.With the recession, I expected to find one
nom problem. Instead, I found paddles who had found recession sold
canoe and kayaks. The looking/not looking then finding problem.hata
beaut. elegant" yeah but ahhhhhhhhsht whose looking for a used Suzuki
never ridden ?
"oh lookit the beautiful SuzukiWOW w

On Oct 13, 10:42*am, kolldata wrote:
Local Noise suggested 7-8 worthy used frames ?

My experience finding knockout used bikes for peanuts is in ateas
surrounding high income beach and retirement communities...or near
Brentwood for example. There are thrifts, Salvation Army, where
lurking in a corner are 4-5 slightly unused examples of late '70's
-90's cycles.
dissassemble, paint ID, grease and go. And save for a 2010 component
rebuild.
These *bikes may be less robust than contemp bikes.
As to the LHT, what several of us bring forth, building the bike is
more rewarding all around than buying one tho *frame then components
counts fersure.
I was looking for WW canoes.With the recession, I expected to find one
nom problem. Instead, I found paddles who had found recession sold
canoe and kayaks. The looking/not looking then finding problem.hata
beaut. elegant" yeah but ahhhhhhhhsht whose looking for a used Suzuki
never ridden ?
"oh lookit the beautiful SuzukiWOW w

aplogoes for typos...wipes keyboard when laptop was
running...zzzzzzck....and I type in sunlight, no see screen.

aha the ML !


http://sheldonbrown.com/japan.html

On Oct 12, 11:47*am, Sir Ridesalot wrote:
Hi there.

I'm rethinking getting a Surly Long Haul Trucker frameset.

I was about to go to the shop to get measured for a Surly Long Haul
Trucker frame.

*BUT*

The Surly website says that there is only a *3 year limited warranty*
on the frame and also *Not* to use a kickstand as the frame is not
designed for the loads a kickstand can produce. This is with either a
chainstay mounted one or one that mounts on the rear chainstay/
seatstay area.

This frame's regular price here is $550.00 CDN and is on sale for
$340.00 for a short time on existing stock.

Why only a 3 year warranty on a steel frame? I expected a lifetime
limited warranty at least on a steel touring frame. A 3 year limited
warranty on what's suposed to be a quality steel heavy duty touring
frame just doesn't make sense to me. Even many department store steel
BSOs have lifetime warranties on the frame. Again, why such a short
warranty period from Surly for the LHT frame? Has the quality dropped
a lot from what it used to be?

Any light you can shed on why there's such a short warranty period
will be immensely appreciated by me.

Cheers from Peter

Trek... life time warrantee 540,

Soma saga, has KS plate ..& .. NB,
you also have rear left side triangle mount stands , too.

On Oct 13, 10:42 am, kolldata wrote:

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As to the LHT, what several of us bring forth, building the bike is
more rewarding all around than buying one tho frame then components
counts fersure.

For sure. But (as you may recall ;-) I broke my commuter and needed a
bike that I could ride Monday. The LHT complete bike fit the bill,
was in stock locally, Grandma proffered her casino nestegg, and the
rest is history.

I was looking for WW canoes.

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.b...dce16b90edf368

Speaking of art form, I like to believe that I appreciate artful
expression ("means" something to me, makes me "feel") as much as
anyone. So... never mind

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On Oct 12, 1:47*pm, Sir Ridesalot wrote:
Hi there.

I'm rethinking getting aSurlyLong Haul Trucker frameset.

I was about to go to the shop to get measured for aSurlyLong Haul
Trucker frame.

*BUT*

TheSurlywebsite says that there is only a *3 year limited warranty*
on the frame and also *Not* to use akickstandas the frame is not
designed for the loads akickstandcan produce. This is with either a
chainstay mounted one or one that mounts on the rear chainstay/
seatstay area.

This frame's regular price here is $550.00 CDN and is on sale for
$340.00 for a short time on existing stock.

Why only a 3 year warranty on a steel frame? I expected a lifetime
limited warranty at least on a steel touring frame. A 3 year limited
warranty on what's suposed to be a quality steel heavy duty touring
frame just doesn't make sense to me. Even many department store steel
BSOs have lifetime warranties on the frame. Again, why such a short
warranty period fromSurlyfor the LHT frame? Has the quality dropped
a lot from what it used to be?

Any light you can shed on why there's such a short warranty period
will be immensely appreciated by me.

Cheers from Peter

Over and above the 3 year thing, where is the shop getting the no-
kickstand rule? I sure don't see that anywhere on Surly's site.

Chip C
Toronto

On Nov 15, 12:41*pm, Chip C wrote:
On Oct 12, 1:47*pm, Sir Ridesalot wrote:



Hi there.

I'm rethinking getting aSurlyLong Haul Trucker frameset.

I was about to go to the shop to get measured for aSurlyLong Haul
Trucker frame.

*BUT*

TheSurlywebsite says that there is only a *3 year limited warranty*
on the frame and also *Not* to use akickstandas the frame is not
designed for the loads akickstandcan produce. This is with either a
chainstay mounted one or one that mounts on the rear chainstay/
seatstay area.

This frame's regular price here is $550.00 CDN and is on sale for
$340.00 for a short time on existing stock.

Why only a 3 year warranty on a steel frame? I expected a lifetime
limited warranty at least on a steel touring frame. A 3 year limited
warranty on what's suposed to be a quality steel heavy duty touring
frame just doesn't make sense to me. Even many department store steel
BSOs have lifetime warranties on the frame. Again, why such a short
warranty period fromSurlyfor the LHT frame? Has the quality dropped
a lot from what it used to be?

Any light you can shed on why there's such a short warranty period
will be immensely appreciated by me.

Cheers from Peter

Over and above the 3 year thing, where is the shop getting the no-kickstandrule? I sure don't see that anywhere onSurly'ssite.

Chip C
Toronto

D'oh. Asking improves one's eyesite.
http://surlybikes.com/info_hole/spew..._haul_truckers

Chip C

Chip C wrote:

Over and above the 3 year thing, where is the shop getting the
no-kickstand rule? I sure don't see that anywhere on Surly's site.

D'oh. Asking improves one's eyesite.
http://surlybikes.com/info_hole/spew..._haul_truckers

So get a bike with a kickstand plate already. I understand the Soma
Saga has one and costs about the same as the LHT.

Chalo