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  #21  
Old July 29th 03, 11:18 PM
hippy
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"g" wrote in message
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my top ten

This is a list of current riders.


Yes, that's why I didn't do a top10 in the first place! :P
This list is more of a personal favourites than a top 10.
Stuart O'Grady is higher because I like him more - simple.

OK, but McEwen has more stage wins in the Tour than O'Grady and a

bundle
of stages in the Giro. Also the first Aussie to win any category in

the
Tour, the Green jersey. He won a phenomenal 20+ races last year. Baden
Cooke's palmares are much smaller than O'Grady's, apart from the Green
jersey, he is still beginning.
Robbie is easily No. out of that lot.


He was going to be number 1, but O'Grady was, lets say, in my good books
after trying so hard in the tour and being so "aussie" about it in the
interviews.

Cadel Evans won 2 mtb worlds titles, but its a case of comparing mtb
worlds to a road worlds. Road gets 10 times the money, media coverage
and more hotly contested than mtb. So I'd count anything won on the

road
to be harder than off road, sorry. Cadel has only done only a handfull
of good things on the road so far.


Obtaining the Maglia Rosa? Have we had anyone else do that?
I'm sure you're right, but that's why I didn't make a top 10 to start
with,
my knowledge of other people's race results very limited

hip


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  #22  
Old July 30th 03, 04:24 AM
g
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6 day racing is basically a madison. Danny Clark teamed with Englishman
Anthony Doyle to win the race I saw in Munich.
I couldn't find on google as to exactly the amount of time they race,
suffice to say they start around 1pm and race for 7 or 8 hours with
breaks in between finishing up around midnight.
There are about a dozen teams, the scoreboard shows who is leading and
how many laps behind them each team is. It gets exciting when the
intermediate sprints are on, the Oompah band (german guys in leiderhosen
and huge moustaches..) stir up the crowd and increase the tempo till the
bunch hits the line.

During the breaks the crowd are entertained with feature races such as
junior races, exhibition match sprints (by the best in the world),
points races and Danny singing..

Of course the madison style arm throws makes 6 day racing spectacular.
The crowd goes wild when the oldest man in the field (Danny) attacks and
laps the field, he is soooo tough! He would win with panache too. Rather
than win and go home in a huff (like LA for the first few years of the
Tour), I heard Danny would take the microphone with the Oompah band and
give the crowd a few renditions, real crooner! Too bad I never saw him
do that when I was there Imagine if LA after receiving his trophy on
the Champs Elysees took a mike and broke into the Pirates of Penzance on
the podium!! :P They luvved Danny over there.





hippy wrote:

"g" wrote in message
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Saw the number recently, something like 73 wins out of 230+ Six Day
races. They lived like dogs, sleeping under boards then racing till
midnight the next day..


How does a 6-day race work? Ride as many k's as possible
in 6 days or is there more structure to it than that?

hippy
(I know I could google for this, but it might make for a more
interesting thread if I don't ;-) )

  #23  
Old July 30th 03, 04:24 AM
g
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6 day racing is basically a madison. Danny Clark teamed with Englishman
Anthony Doyle to win the race I saw in Munich.
I couldn't find on google as to exactly the amount of time they race,
suffice to say they start around 1pm and race for 7 or 8 hours with
breaks in between finishing up around midnight.
There are about a dozen teams, the scoreboard shows who is leading and
how many laps behind them each team is. It gets exciting when the
intermediate sprints are on, the Oompah band (german guys in leiderhosen
and huge moustaches..) stir up the crowd and increase the tempo till the
bunch hits the line.

During the breaks the crowd are entertained with feature races such as
junior races, exhibition match sprints (by the best in the world),
points races and Danny singing..

Of course the madison style arm throws makes 6 day racing spectacular.
The crowd goes wild when the oldest man in the field (Danny) attacks and
laps the field, he is soooo tough! He would win with panache too. Rather
than win and go home in a huff (like LA for the first few years of the
Tour), I heard Danny would take the microphone with the Oompah band and
give the crowd a few renditions, real crooner! Too bad I never saw him
do that when I was there Imagine if LA after receiving his trophy on
the Champs Elysees took a mike and broke into the Pirates of Penzance on
the podium!! :P They luvved Danny over there.





hippy wrote:

"g" wrote in message
...
Saw the number recently, something like 73 wins out of 230+ Six Day
races. They lived like dogs, sleeping under boards then racing till
midnight the next day..


How does a 6-day race work? Ride as many k's as possible
in 6 days or is there more structure to it than that?

hippy
(I know I could google for this, but it might make for a more
interesting thread if I don't ;-) )

  #24  
Old July 30th 03, 12:50 PM
John Stevenson
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Ollie Wigg wrote:

Yeah Cadel did win a couple of world championships


Cadel won the World Cup series a couple of times, but never won the
world championships. Lists at www.uci.ch.

  #25  
Old July 30th 03, 12:50 PM
John Stevenson
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Ollie Wigg wrote:

Yeah Cadel did win a couple of world championships


Cadel won the World Cup series a couple of times, but never won the
world championships. Lists at www.uci.ch.

  #26  
Old July 30th 03, 12:53 PM
John L
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It all depends on your age. I'm old enough & privileged enough to
have seen both Sid Patterson at the old Velodrome (I used to show the
advertising slides between races), & Russell Mockridge race on the
road..

They were my boyhood heroes.

Because of this I would place both on the list, butI would include at
least another twenty Aussie cyclists, some of whom I've had the
privilege of racing with.

I wouldn't attempt to place them in any particular order as they raced
at different times with different equipment, under different
circumstances. They would include all the cyclists mentioned below.

John L. (Fencesitter Deluxe)

On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 15:15:20 +1000, "TJF" wrote:

What about Patto (Sid Patterson) 4 times world champion?
"Andrew Swan" wrote in message
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g wrote:
Because there was a thread on rbr about the 10 best yank cyclist, I'm
wondering who makes the list of best Aussies of all time.

My relatively uninformed choices:

1. Phil Anderson
2. Danny Clark
3. Russell Mockridge
4. Hubert Opperman
5. Robbie McEwen
6. Stuart O'Grady
7. Brad McGee
8. Neil Stephens
9. Gary Neiwand
10. Sean Eadie

ciao
GK


Martin Vinnicombe?
Shane Kelly?

&roo



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Old July 30th 03, 12:53 PM
John L
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Default 10 best Aussie cyclists

It all depends on your age. I'm old enough & privileged enough to
have seen both Sid Patterson at the old Velodrome (I used to show the
advertising slides between races), & Russell Mockridge race on the
road..

They were my boyhood heroes.

Because of this I would place both on the list, butI would include at
least another twenty Aussie cyclists, some of whom I've had the
privilege of racing with.

I wouldn't attempt to place them in any particular order as they raced
at different times with different equipment, under different
circumstances. They would include all the cyclists mentioned below.

John L. (Fencesitter Deluxe)

On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 15:15:20 +1000, "TJF" wrote:

What about Patto (Sid Patterson) 4 times world champion?
"Andrew Swan" wrote in message
...
g wrote:
Because there was a thread on rbr about the 10 best yank cyclist, I'm
wondering who makes the list of best Aussies of all time.

My relatively uninformed choices:

1. Phil Anderson
2. Danny Clark
3. Russell Mockridge
4. Hubert Opperman
5. Robbie McEwen
6. Stuart O'Grady
7. Brad McGee
8. Neil Stephens
9. Gary Neiwand
10. Sean Eadie

ciao
GK


Martin Vinnicombe?
Shane Kelly?

&roo



  #28  
Old July 30th 03, 03:01 PM
Ollie Wigg
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Sorry, wrong terminology.
"John Stevenson" wrote in message
u...
Ollie Wigg wrote:

Yeah Cadel did win a couple of world championships


Cadel won the World Cup series a couple of times, but never won the
world championships. Lists at www.uci.ch.



  #29  
Old July 30th 03, 03:01 PM
Ollie Wigg
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Sorry, wrong terminology.
"John Stevenson" wrote in message
u...
Ollie Wigg wrote:

Yeah Cadel did win a couple of world championships


Cadel won the World Cup series a couple of times, but never won the
world championships. Lists at www.uci.ch.



  #30  
Old August 6th 03, 12:20 PM
Scotty
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did someone forget Pat Jonker??
15th in the TDF is a pretty awesome effort in my book.

"hippy" wrote in message
...
"g" wrote in message
...
my top ten

This is a list of current riders.


Yes, that's why I didn't do a top10 in the first place! :P
This list is more of a personal favourites than a top 10.
Stuart O'Grady is higher because I like him more - simple.

OK, but McEwen has more stage wins in the Tour than O'Grady and a

bundle
of stages in the Giro. Also the first Aussie to win any category in

the
Tour, the Green jersey. He won a phenomenal 20+ races last year. Baden
Cooke's palmares are much smaller than O'Grady's, apart from the Green
jersey, he is still beginning.
Robbie is easily No. out of that lot.


He was going to be number 1, but O'Grady was, lets say, in my good books
after trying so hard in the tour and being so "aussie" about it in the
interviews.

Cadel Evans won 2 mtb worlds titles, but its a case of comparing mtb
worlds to a road worlds. Road gets 10 times the money, media coverage
and more hotly contested than mtb. So I'd count anything won on the

road
to be harder than off road, sorry. Cadel has only done only a handfull
of good things on the road so far.


Obtaining the Maglia Rosa? Have we had anyone else do that?
I'm sure you're right, but that's why I didn't make a top 10 to start
with,
my knowledge of other people's race results very limited

hip




 




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