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On 14 Mar 2005 15:19:21 -0800, Maggie wrote:
Tom Keats wrote: In article , "greggery peccary" @.@ writes: You can't put a shopping bag on the handlebar? OOPS. I did that Saturday. Am I ousted from the kewl bicycle riders union? I passed the supermarket, I needed bread. It was a light plastic bag and it had a handle. It was nicely slung over the handlebars all the way home. It had a nice slogan on it. It read....SHOP-RITE. So I biked and shopped. Don't worry Maggie, we can save you! We call them panniers (sp?). And if you want to be stylish you can get them in matching colors for your bike. Now while I have trouble with matching color of my sock (they're white ;-) I prefer to use a trailer, hey I've got to eat! Ride to work, work to eat, eat to ride (I think that' how it goes). -- Linux Home Automation Neil Cherry http://home.comcast.net/~ncherry/ (Text only) http://hcs.sourceforge.net/ (HCS II) http://linuxha.blogspot.com/ My HA Blog |
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"Pat" wrote in message ... "greggery peccary" @.@ wrote : damn somebody just drove past me on my ride home and sprayed what looked : like tear gas at me! they missed. it hung in a big gasseous cloud on the : ground behind me as i rode away. yesterday almost got in a fight with some : assholes yelling at me as i minded my own buisness in the bike lane. : everyday now it's something WTF? i am starting to seriously question whether : most people out there are really "civil" or if they are just like children : attacking anything aberrent. : i going to start carrying rocks. maybe make a little bag for them on my : handlebar. no more mr nice guy... :-( I have this fantasy of carrying a gun with paint pellets in it and marking the idiots' car or pickup truck as they go by....BTW: where are you riding? What city? Pat in TX : : seattle where people are nicer, but also more passive aggressive |
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"greggery peccary" @.@ wrote in message
... everyday now it's something WTF? i am starting to seriously question whether most people out there are really "civil" or if they are just like children attacking anything aberrent. i going to start carrying rocks. maybe make a little bag for them on my handlebar. no more mr nice guy... :-( Although I do encounter unpleasant people every so once in a while, generally I do not have problems with other motorists. Since we are riding more or less in the same area, I wonder why you are having such difficulties. I recommend beginning your rides with an intention focused on respect. I would word it something like, "everyone respects me and my place on the road". It would be helpful if you say it outloud before you ride, if you don't feel too silly about that. It would also help if you visualize in your imagination you riding along and motorists providing you with this respect before your ride. If you have a prayer or a meditation practice, you may want to include this visualization in your practice. I have more about the practice of intentions he http://home.earthlink.net/~cpetersky/Intentions.htm Another visualization for you to tuck into your metaphorical pannier. I often think of myself owning the pavement from the centerline to the edge of pavement, whether that is at the curb or beyond the fog line at the far end of the shoulder. I am the queen of this portion of pavement as I roll along. Because I am magnanimous, I allow cars to pass me. On occasion, for my personal safety, I may assume my claim to the pavement that is already mine. But generally, I don't need to do that, so I am gracious to the other roadway users. The advantage of this attitude of magnanimousness and graciousness is that when you ride with it, you are more likely to get it in return from other road users. You are also riding from a position of power, as opposed to victimization. A rock carrier believes himself to be a victim before he even gets on the bike. You don't want to be a victim of traffic. You are instead a sovereign of the road. Another problem with carrying rocks is that you are setting an intention for hostility and confrontation, making it more likely to manifest. So please don't do that. -- Warm Regards, Claire Petersky Home of the meditative cyclist: http://home.earthlink.net/~cpetersky/Welcome.htm Personal page: http://www.geocities.com/cpetersky/ See the books I've set free at: http://bookcrossing.com/referral/Cpetersky |
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"Brady Montz" wrote in message ... "greggery peccary" @.@ writes: damn somebody just drove past me on my ride home and sprayed what looked like tear gas at me! they missed. it hung in a big gasseous cloud on the ground behind me as i rode away. yesterday almost got in a fight with some assholes yelling at me as i minded my own buisness in the bike lane. everyday now it's something WTF? i am starting to seriously question whether most people out there are really "civil" or if they are just like children attacking anything aberrent. i going to start carrying rocks. maybe make a little bag for them on my handlebar. no more mr nice guy... :-( And I question if you meant to use the word "penultimate," and wonder about the potentially ultimate harassment that can result from your proposed use of rocks. -- 2nd to last, yes, because i am almost ready to start harassing back. if it were an occasional thing it would be NP; but there is something about me, or the way i look, or something which invites this kind of crap from people. i say nothing, stay on the bike lane and try to blend in as much as possible. even when i walk down my street bums will see me from a block away. two days ago i was panhandled so aggressively it was borderline robbery. it was all i could do to get rid of him, either that or a fist in the teeth (and the latter would get me in trouble). ya putting a big dent in someone's vehicle is not cool, and definitely not something i would ever consider doing unless they did something like, oh say: spray me with f'ing tear gas for no reason at all! i am wondering when do you all fight back? (maybe that's the real reason for this post-and maybe a little sympathy...) -a |
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"Tom Keats" wrote in message ... In article , "greggery peccary" @.@ writes: i going to start carrying rocks. maybe make a little bag for them on my handlebar. no more mr nice guy... :-( "He's five foot two and he's six feet four, He fights with missiles and with spears ..." Don't do it! Too much risk of collateral damage, for one thing. And a bag of rocks just doesn't look good on a bike; that would almost be as bad as shopping bags slung on the handlebar. Such incidents often seem to occur in closely-timed clusters, but they never really indicate any trend. What helps me get over such negative experiences is to make a point of creating positive ones -- eg: chatting a little with fellow riders, complimenting them about their kewl bikes, etc. Maybe negative reactions to negative experiences engender more negative experiences, and positive ones engender positive ones. I live in the optimism that's how it works, anyways. At any rate, Mr Nice Guy is immutably irrepressible, so I think he'll stick around. cheers, Tom ya thanks, maybe i should go on a group ride. my late commute is lonely all year long... |
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Maggie wrote:
You can't put a shopping bag on the handlebar? OOPS. I did that Saturday. Am I ousted from the kewl bicycle riders union? I passed the supermarket, I needed bread. It was a light plastic bag and it had a handle. It was nicely slung over the handlebars all the way home. It had a nice slogan on it. It read....SHOP-RITE. So I biked and shopped. Makes sense to me. Maggie, You are supposed to put a milk crate on the rear rack of your bicycle for stuff like this. The crate should be fastened to the rack with a combination of Jubilee clips (hose clamps), cable (zip) ties, and electrical tape. -- Tom "Anti-Fabrizio" Sherman - Earth (Illinois) |
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Tom Sherman writes: Maggie wrote: You can't put a shopping bag on the handlebar? OOPS. I did that Saturday. Am I ousted from the kewl bicycle riders union? I passed the supermarket, I needed bread. It was a light plastic bag and it had a handle. It was nicely slung over the handlebars all the way home. It had a nice slogan on it. It read....SHOP-RITE. So I biked and shopped. Makes sense to me. Maggie, You are supposed to put a milk crate on the rear rack of your bicycle for stuff like this. And it works quite well, too. Especially for tall & wide, fragilethings like potted plants. And a milk crate provides a good location for rear flashers and reflectors. But for Maggie, I think those pannier-like folding baskets that go on rear racks might just be the ticket, if they're easily removable. I've seen some nice ones (that don't rattle) in my travels around town. cheers, Tom -- -- Nothing is safe from me. Above address is just a spam midden. I'm really at: tkeats [curlicue] vcn [point] bc [point] ca |
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Tom Keats wrote:
In article , Tom Sherman writes: Maggie wrote: You can't put a shopping bag on the handlebar? OOPS. I did that Saturday. Am I ousted from the kewl bicycle riders union? I passed the supermarket, I needed bread. It was a light plastic bag and it had a handle. It was nicely slung over the handlebars all the way home. It had a nice slogan on it. It read....SHOP-RITE. So I biked and shopped. Makes sense to me. Maggie, You are supposed to put a milk crate on the rear rack of your bicycle for stuff like this. And it works quite well, too. Especially for tall & wide, fragilethings like potted plants. And a milk crate provides a good location for rear flashers and reflectors. But for Maggie, I think those pannier-like folding baskets that go on rear racks might just be the ticket, if they're easily removable. I've seen some nice ones (that don't rattle) in my travels around town. I saw a Jack Russell riding in a bicycle mounted milk crate. -- Tom Sherman - Earth (Illinois) |
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"greggery peccary" .@. writes: ya thanks, maybe i should go on a group ride. my late commute is lonely all year long... I figure /every/ ride is more-or-less a diffused group ride, in that the other riders one encounters at stop lines or bike parking facilities or whatnot are generally approachable and open to some friendly conversation. cheers again, Tom -- -- Nothing is safe from me. Above address is just a spam midden. I'm really at: tkeats [curlicue] vcn [point] bc [point] ca |
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"Claire Petersky" wrote in message ... "greggery peccary" @.@ wrote in message ... everyday now it's something WTF? i am starting to seriously question whether most people out there are really "civil" or if they are just like children attacking anything aberrent. i going to start carrying rocks. maybe make a little bag for them on my handlebar. no more mr nice guy... :-( Although I do encounter unpleasant people every so once in a while, generally I do not have problems with other motorists. Since we are riding more or less in the same area, I wonder why you are having such difficulties. I recommend beginning your rides with an intention focused on respect. I would word it something like, "everyone respects me and my place on the road". It would be helpful if you say it outloud before you ride, if you don't feel too silly about that. It would also help if you visualize in your imagination you riding along and motorists providing you with this respect before your ride. If you have a prayer or a meditation practice, you may want to include this visualization in your practice. I have more about the practice of intentions he http://home.earthlink.net/~cpetersky/Intentions.htm Another visualization for you to tuck into your metaphorical pannier. I often think of myself owning the pavement from the centerline to the edge of pavement, whether that is at the curb or beyond the fog line at the far end of the shoulder. I am the queen of this portion of pavement as I roll along. Because I am magnanimous, I allow cars to pass me. On occasion, for my personal safety, I may assume my claim to the pavement that is already mine. But generally, I don't need to do that, so I am gracious to the other roadway users. The advantage of this attitude of magnanimousness and graciousness is that when you ride with it, you are more likely to get it in return from other road users. You are also riding from a position of power, as opposed to victimization. A rock carrier believes himself to be a victim before he even gets on the bike. You don't want to be a victim of traffic. You are instead a sovereign of the road. Another problem with carrying rocks is that you are setting an intention for hostility and confrontation, making it more likely to manifest. So please don't do that. -- Warm Regards, Claire, i appreciate your sentiment and the funny thing is that this is the reason i am getting so frustrated...ie because i do just that! i visualize and anticipate getting along with motorists. i am always meekly and smilingly avoiding motorists. i use the bike lane in the middle, just over enough to get doored so as to not delay the cager's need to pass without fear. my statements here do not reflect my riding (or daily) attitude, they are a vent of frustration because i really cannot figure out why im having these problems. Tom says " Such incidents often seem to occur in closely-timed clusters, but they never really indicate any trend". my question then is: how many years do these clusters last? maybe it's the criminal mind's detection of the meek, rather than his detection of the (rock)-as it were. predators know prey. he will spray tear gas on the unwary old nerd on a bike but i doubt he would do that to an anarchist with a rock. it is the lot of the freak...well the freaks have to be fierce. yes i need to meditate...on a rock (or maybe with one balanced on my head); whatever i do, i will ride on. |
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