Oregon vs California law graphic

Bill Zaumen wrote:
Tom Sherman writes:

Bill Zaumen wrote:
Tom Sherman writes:

Bill Zaumen wrote:
Eric Vey writes:

Bill Z. wrote:
Tom Sherman writes:

others.
Barry Bonds is not a member of the "Super Rich" by any means - his
wealth would be sneered at by the real power brokers
(e.g. Rothschild's, Rockefeller's and their ilk).
He's more than rich enough to qualify for what you claimed.

What crime has Barry Bonds been convicted of?

The trail is still pending. Your claim was special treatment for the
wealthy, which would keep someone with his income out of court if
you were right.

Where will this trail (sic) lead to?

Keating and Lay got slaps on the wrist - if a blue collar criminal
stole equal value, the combined sentences would run into the tens of
thousands of years.
Nope.

Citation?

Read the newspapers.

How many burglaries would a person need to commit to steal an equal
dollar value? Add up a one year (or more) sentence for each burglary,
and the total is much more than Keating got or Lay would have served if
alive.

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
The weather is here, wish you were beautiful

Bill Zaumen wrote:
Tom Sherman writes:

Bill Zaumen wrote:
Tom Sherman writes:

Bill Zaumen wrote:
Tom Sherman writes:

Only when those things do not offend the ruling classes, e.g. abortion
(since the rich can easily travel to a country where abortion is legal
if they want one). Also, many laws are not enforced against the super
rich, since they can cause police and prosecutors to lose jobs and are
hard to convict since they have better legal representation that the
prosecutor's office.
Conspiracy theory.

Pay attention to the real world. Here is hint, the laws as written
are NOT the real world.
Non sequitur.

Well, Zaumen quote the laws as if they govern real world events.

Tell that one to the judge the next time you get a moving violation.

Tell that to the bus driver when you are crushed beneath the bus's wheels.

Tell that to the gang banger who is driving without a license in a
stolen car while carrying an unregistered gun, and who not too worried
about another trip to the "big house" (very common in the 'hood).

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
The weather is here, wish you were beautiful

Bill Zaumen wrote:
Tom Sherman writes:

Bill Zaumen wrote:
Tom Sherman writes:

Do California drivers actually pay attention to the drivers' manual
beyond rote memorization for the tests? If so, their (California
drivers') behavior is highly unusual.
You claimed they didn't know the law. They do know it. When they
ignore it, it is done on purpose.

Knowing the law enough to answer multiple choice questions on a test
and understanding and retaining the information are two different
things (in the real world).

There's a driving part of the test too.

Not many drive in the real world the same way they would while taking
the test.
[i]
Like Zaumen's "idiot" comment above?
It's quite approprate given your childish behavior.

Citation?

Idiot.

Citation?

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Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
The weather is here, wish you were beautiful

Tom Sherman writes:

Bill Zaumen wrote:
Tom Sherman writes:

Bill Zaumen wrote:
Tom Sherman writes:

Bill Zaumen wrote:
Eric Vey writes:
What crime has Barry Bonds been convicted of?
The trail is still pending. Your claim was special treatment for the
wealthy, which would keep someone with his income out of court if
you were right.

Where will this trail (sic) lead to?

Typos aside, wait till the jury decides.


Keating and Lay got slaps on the wrist - if a blue collar criminal
stole equal value, the combined sentences would run into the tens of
thousands of years.
Nope.

Citation?
Read the newspapers.

How many burglaries would a person need to commit to steal an equal
dollar value? Add up a one year (or more) sentence for each burglary,
and the total is much more than Keating got or Lay would have served
if alive.

Burglary sentences are not proportional to the value of what was stolen.


--
My real name backwards: nemuaZ lliB

Tom Sherman writes:

Bill Zaumen wrote:
Tom Sherman writes:

Bill Zaumen wrote:
Tom Sherman writes:


Pay attention to the real world. Here is hint, the laws as written
are NOT the real world.
Non sequitur.

Well, Zaumen quote the laws as if they govern real world events.
Tell that one to the judge the next time you get a moving violation.

Tell that to the bus driver when you are crushed beneath the bus's wheels.
Tell that to the gang banger who is driving without a license in a
stolen car while carrying an unregistered gun, and who not too worried
about another trip to the "big house" (very common in the 'hood).

Sherman, you are an idiot.


--
My real name backwards: nemuaZ lliB

Tom Sherman writes:

Bill Zaumen wrote:
Tom Sherman writes:

Bill Zaumen wrote:
Tom Sherman writes:

Do California drivers actually pay attention to the drivers' manual
beyond rote memorization for the tests? If so, their (California
drivers') behavior is highly unusual.
You claimed they didn't know the law. They do know it. When they
ignore it, it is done on purpose.

Knowing the law enough to answer multiple choice questions on a test
and understanding and retaining the information are two different
things (in the real world).
There's a driving part of the test too.

Not many drive in the real world the same way they would while taking
the test.

You don't think you are in the "real world" while taking a driving test?
If you mean that they behave better, that's true when they see a police
car as well. The bottom line is that they know what the laws are, but
may choose to ignore them when they think they can get away with it.
[i]
Like Zaumen's "idiot" comment above?
It's quite approprate given your childish behavior.

Citation?
Idiot.

Citation?

Your comments above will do.

--
My real name backwards: nemuaZ lliB

Tom Sherman wrote:

Tell that to the gang banger who is driving without a license in a
stolen car while carrying an unregistered gun, and who not too worried
about another trip to the "big house" (very common in the 'hood).

We get something like that almost every day now with a crash.
Here is today's freak show:
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/...,1854629.story

A 19-year-old Orlando man is in jail this morning, on charges he left
his infant daughter in his car after crashing into another vehicle.

The 5-month-old was not strapped into a car seat and was found on the
deck below the rear windshield and above the rear seats, according to
police. She was taken to Arnold Palmer Hospital for Children as a
precaution.

Larry James Patterson Jr. was booked into the Orange County Jail on
charges of violating probation, fleeing and attempting to elude a police
officer, leaving the scene of an accident with injuries and child
neglect. He is being held without bond.

[snip]

Patterson also told police: "I wasn't involved in that accident down
there. You couldn't see me in that car. The windows are tinted too
dark," according to the report.

Police called the girl's mother, Crystal N. Green, and she came to the
scene. Green, whose name the car is registered, told police that
Patterson, the baby's father, was driving the Taurus and that she had
received a call from him about the crash.

Bill Zaumen wrote:
Tom Sherman writes:

Bill Zaumen wrote:
Tom Sherman writes:

Bill Zaumen wrote:
Tom Sherman writes:

Bill Zaumen wrote:
Eric Vey writes:
What crime has Barry Bonds been convicted of?
The trail is still pending. Your claim was special treatment for the
wealthy, which would keep someone with his income out of court if
you were right.

Where will this trail (sic) lead to?

Typos aside, wait till the jury decides.

Keating and Lay got slaps on the wrist - if a blue collar criminal
stole equal value, the combined sentences would run into the tens of
thousands of years.
Nope.

Citation?
Read the newspapers.

How many burglaries would a person need to commit to steal an equal
dollar value? Add up a one year (or more) sentence for each burglary,
and the total is much more than Keating got or Lay would have served
if alive.

Burglary sentences are not proportional to the value of what was stolen.

Exactly! White collar criminals steal millions and get a short sentence
in a minimum security federal prison with other corporate criminals. A
kid from the hood steals a television from a store and gets several
years in a medium security state prison with career street thugs.

Let the punishment fit the race and class, not the crime!

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
The weather is here, wish you were beautiful

Bill Zaumen wrote:
Tom Sherman writes:

Bill Zaumen wrote:
Tom Sherman writes:

Bill Zaumen wrote:
Tom Sherman writes:

Pay attention to the real world. Here is hint, the laws as written
are NOT the real world.
Non sequitur.

Well, Zaumen quote the laws as if they govern real world events.
Tell that one to the judge the next time you get a moving violation.

Tell that to the bus driver when you are crushed beneath the bus's wheels.
Tell that to the gang banger who is driving without a license in a
stolen car while carrying an unregistered gun, and who not too worried
about another trip to the "big house" (very common in the 'hood).

Sherman, you are an idiot.

Zaumen, you are living in a fantasy world.

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
The weather is here, wish you were beautiful

Bill Zaumen wrote:
Tom Sherman writes:

Bill Zaumen wrote:
Tom Sherman writes:

Bill Zaumen wrote:
Tom Sherman writes:

Do California drivers actually pay attention to the drivers' manual
beyond rote memorization for the tests? If so, their (California
drivers') behavior is highly unusual.
You claimed they didn't know the law. They do know it. When they
ignore it, it is done on purpose.

Knowing the law enough to answer multiple choice questions on a test
and understanding and retaining the information are two different
things (in the real world).
There's a driving part of the test too.
Not many drive in the real world the same way they would while taking
the test.

You don't think you are in the "real world" while taking a driving test?
If you mean that they behave better, that's true when they see a police
car as well. The bottom line is that they know what the laws are, but
may choose to ignore them when they think they can get away with it.

Leave out "they know what the laws are" and Zaumen has it right.
[i]
Like Zaumen's "idiot" comment above?
It's quite approprate given your childish behavior.

Citation?
Idiot.

Citation?

Your comments above will do.

Peer reviewed citation?

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
The weather is here, wish you were beautiful