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Another killer let loose.
Doug wrote:
"Fatal crash cyclist is identified A cyclist who died in a collision in Essex has been identified as a 43- year-old man from Southend. Nigel Garrett, of Newington Avenue, Southend, was cycling in Lifstan Way, Southend, early on Saturday morning when he was in collision with a car. A teenager was arrested on suspicion of causing death by dangerous driving. The 19-year-old man from Southend was later released on police bail until 18 October. Any witnesses to the crash are asked to call Essex Police." http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/essex/8135863.stm -- UK Radical Campaigns www.zing.icom43.net A driving licence is a licence to kill. So due process of law was followed, the innocent (so far) driver was released on bail. What do you suggest that should have been done? -- Tony Dragon |
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Another killer let loose.
On 6 July, 18:21, Tony Dragon wrote:
Doug wrote: "Fatal crash cyclist is identified A cyclist who died in a collision in Essex has been identified as a 43- year-old man from Southend. Nigel Garrett, of Newington Avenue, Southend, was cycling in Lifstan Way, Southend, early on Saturday morning when he was in collision with a car. A teenager was arrested on suspicion of causing death by dangerous driving. The 19-year-old man from Southend was later released on police bail until 18 October. Any witnesses to the crash are asked to call Essex Police." http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/essex/8135863.stm -- UK Radical Campaigns www.zing.icom43.net A driving licence is a licence to kill. So due process of law was followed, the innocent (so far) driver was released on bail. What do you suggest that should have been done? What are the risks of his offending again while on bail? I'm not in favour of holding people on remand unnecessarily, but a bail condition preventing him from driving would not hurt. |
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Another killer let loose.
Simon Brooke wrote:
On 6 July, 18:21, Tony Dragon wrote: Doug wrote: "Fatal crash cyclist is identified A cyclist who died in a collision in Essex has been identified as a 43- year-old man from Southend. Nigel Garrett, of Newington Avenue, Southend, was cycling in Lifstan Way, Southend, early on Saturday morning when he was in collision with a car. A teenager was arrested on suspicion of causing death by dangerous driving. The 19-year-old man from Southend was later released on police bail until 18 October. Any witnesses to the crash are asked to call Essex Police." http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/essex/8135863.stm -- UK Radical Campaigns www.zing.icom43.net A driving licence is a licence to kill. So due process of law was followed, the innocent (so far) driver was released on bail. What do you suggest that should have been done? What are the risks of his offending again while on bail? I'm not in favour of holding people on remand unnecessarily, but a bail condition preventing him from driving would not hurt. You'd potentially prevent him from supporting himself and any family he has even though he's not guilty? We don't even do that to those on bail accused of murder. |
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Another killer let loose.
On 6 July, 18:21, Tony Dragon wrote:
Doug wrote: "Fatal crash cyclist is identified A cyclist who died in a collision in Essex has been identified as a 43- year-old man from Southend. Nigel Garrett, of Newington Avenue, Southend, was cycling in Lifstan Way, Southend, early on Saturday morning when he was in collision with a car. A teenager was arrested on suspicion of causing death by dangerous driving. The 19-year-old man from Southend was later released on police bail until 18 October. Any witnesses to the crash are asked to call Essex Police." http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/essex/8135863.stm So due process of law was followed, the innocent (so far) driver was released on bail. What do you suggest that should have been done? Keep him inside in case he kills again. If an unbiased court decides he is innocent then fair enough, though how it could possibly ever arrive at such a conclusion is beyond me. In any other context than on a road a killing would be treated much more seriously. -- UK Radical Campaigns www.zing.icom43.net A driving licence is a licence to kill. |
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Another killer let loose.
On 6 July, 21:58, JNugent wrote:
Simon Brooke wrote: On 6 July, 18:21, Tony Dragon wrote: Doug wrote: "Fatal crash cyclist is identified A cyclist who died in a collision in Essex has been identified as a 43- year-old man from Southend. Nigel Garrett, of Newington Avenue, Southend, was cycling in Lifstan Way, Southend, early on Saturday morning when he was in collision with a car. A teenager was arrested on suspicion of causing death by dangerous driving. The 19-year-old man from Southend was later released on police bail until 18 October. Any witnesses to the crash are asked to call Essex Police." http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/essex/8135863.stm -- UK Radical Campaigns www.zing.icom43.net A driving licence is a licence to kill. So due process of law was followed, the innocent (so far) driver was released on bail. What do you suggest that should have been done? What are the risks of his offending again while on bail? I'm not in favour of holding people on remand unnecessarily, but a bail condition preventing him from driving would not hurt. You'd potentially prevent him from supporting himself and any family he has even though he's not guilty? We don't even do that to those on bail accused of murder. What about the gyrocopter pilot who is still awaiting trial? Oh I nearly forgot he is a hunt sab and therefore deserving of special police attention, not like your run-of-the mill motorist, and cops, judges and juries drive cars too don't they. -- UK Radical Campaigns www.zing.icom43.net A driving licence is a licence to kill. |
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Another killer let loose.
Doug wrote:
On 6 July, 18:21, Tony Dragon wrote: Doug wrote: "Fatal crash cyclist is identified A cyclist who died in a collision in Essex has been identified as a 43- year-old man from Southend. Nigel Garrett, of Newington Avenue, Southend, was cycling in Lifstan Way, Southend, early on Saturday morning when he was in collision with a car. A teenager was arrested on suspicion of causing death by dangerous driving. The 19-year-old man from Southend was later released on police bail until 18 October. Any witnesses to the crash are asked to call Essex Police." http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/essex/8135863.stm So due process of law was followed, the innocent (so far) driver was released on bail. What do you suggest that should have been done? Keep him inside in case he kills again. If an unbiased court decides he is innocent then fair enough, though how it could possibly ever arrive at such a conclusion is beyond me. In any other context than on a road a killing would be treated much more seriously. Wrong again Doug. Even people charged with murder are allowed bail. |
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Another killer let loose.
Brimstone wrote:
Doug wrote: On 6 July, 18:21, Tony Dragon wrote: Doug wrote: "Fatal crash cyclist is identified A cyclist who died in a collision in Essex has been identified as a 43- year-old man from Southend. Nigel Garrett, of Newington Avenue, Southend, was cycling in Lifstan Way, Southend, early on Saturday morning when he was in collision with a car. A teenager was arrested on suspicion of causing death by dangerous driving. The 19-year-old man from Southend was later released on police bail until 18 October. Any witnesses to the crash are asked to call Essex Police." http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/essex/8135863.stm So due process of law was followed, the innocent (so far) driver was released on bail. What do you suggest that should have been done? Keep him inside in case he kills again. If an unbiased court decides he is innocent then fair enough, though how it could possibly ever arrive at such a conclusion is beyond me. In any other context than on a road a killing would be treated much more seriously. Wrong again Doug. Even people charged with murder are allowed bail. Generally, yes, but not always. Bod |
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Another killer let loose.
Doug wrote:
On 6 July, 18:21, Tony Dragon wrote: Doug wrote: "Fatal crash cyclist is identified A cyclist who died in a collision in Essex has been identified as a 43- year-old man from Southend. Nigel Garrett, of Newington Avenue, Southend, was cycling in Lifstan Way, Southend, early on Saturday morning when he was in collision with a car. A teenager was arrested on suspicion of causing death by dangerous driving. The 19-year-old man from Southend was later released on police bail until 18 October. Any witnesses to the crash are asked to call Essex Police." http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/essex/8135863.stm So due process of law was followed, the innocent (so far) driver was released on bail. What do you suggest that should have been done? Keep him inside in case he kills again. Eh? The legal system doesn't even do that for people remanded on a murder charge. Remember Winston Silcott? |
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Another killer let loose.
Bod wrote:
Brimstone wrote: Doug wrote: On 6 July, 18:21, Tony Dragon wrote: Doug wrote: "Fatal crash cyclist is identified A cyclist who died in a collision in Essex has been identified as a 43- year-old man from Southend. Nigel Garrett, of Newington Avenue, Southend, was cycling in Lifstan Way, Southend, early on Saturday morning when he was in collision with a car. A teenager was arrested on suspicion of causing death by dangerous driving. The 19-year-old man from Southend was later released on police bail until 18 October. Any witnesses to the crash are asked to call Essex Police." http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/essex/8135863.stm So due process of law was followed, the innocent (so far) driver was released on bail. What do you suggest that should have been done? Keep him inside in case he kills again. If an unbiased court decides he is innocent then fair enough, though how it could possibly ever arrive at such a conclusion is beyond me. In any other context than on a road a killing would be treated much more seriously. Wrong again Doug. Even people charged with murder are allowed bail. Generally, yes, but not always. You obviously don't understand the difference between "allowed" and "granted". |
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Another killer let loose.
Brimstone wrote:
Bod wrote: Brimstone wrote: Doug wrote: On 6 July, 18:21, Tony Dragon wrote: Doug wrote: "Fatal crash cyclist is identified A cyclist who died in a collision in Essex has been identified as a 43- year-old man from Southend. Nigel Garrett, of Newington Avenue, Southend, was cycling in Lifstan Way, Southend, early on Saturday morning when he was in collision with a car. A teenager was arrested on suspicion of causing death by dangerous driving. The 19-year-old man from Southend was later released on police bail until 18 October. Any witnesses to the crash are asked to call Essex Police." http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/essex/8135863.stm So due process of law was followed, the innocent (so far) driver was released on bail. What do you suggest that should have been done? Keep him inside in case he kills again. If an unbiased court decides he is innocent then fair enough, though how it could possibly ever arrive at such a conclusion is beyond me. In any other context than on a road a killing would be treated much more seriously. Wrong again Doug. Even people charged with murder are allowed bail. Generally, yes, but not always. You obviously don't understand the difference between "allowed" and "granted". You said Are allowed bail"....they aren't if they are denied bail. The judge decides whether to 'grant' or 'refuse' bail,they are not automatically "allowed". Bod |
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