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Bravo Freddy
A well desered win for a solid rider and a nice guy! BRAVO!
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Bravo Freddy
"B. Lafferty" wrote in news:P6Kwc.15569$Yd3.10031
@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net: A well desered win for a solid rider and a nice guy! BRAVO! 4th place isn't a win... even if he gets the jersey for the next year. |
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Bravo Freddy
Boyd Speerschneider wrote:
"B. Lafferty" wrote in news:P6Kwc.15569$Yd3.10031 @newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net: A well desered win for a solid rider and a nice guy! BRAVO! 4th place isn't a win... even if he gets the jersey for the next year. Yeah, look how the europeans creamed the americans in their own championship race. There was something about this in VeloNews some while back, making the National Championship race USA riders only. How many other countries allow international riders in their championship? |
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Bravo Freddy
"Boyd Speerschneider" wrote in message ... "B. Lafferty" wrote in news:P6Kwc.15569$Yd3.10031 @newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net: A well desered win for a solid rider and a nice guy! BRAVO! 4th place isn't a win... even if he gets the jersey for the next year. As first American, in 4th place, Freddy has indeed won the right to wear the jersey of USPRO champion for the coming year. While he didn't win overall this year, he has won overal in the past, as was the last USPRO champion to do so. Considering his win this year in the Giro against Petacchi(sp?), he's clearly a very deserving US champion. |
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Bravo Freddy
"Richard Adams" wrote in message ... Boyd Speerschneider wrote: "B. Lafferty" wrote in news:P6Kwc.15569$Yd3.10031 @newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net: A well desered win for a solid rider and a nice guy! BRAVO! 4th place isn't a win... even if he gets the jersey for the next year. Yeah, look how the europeans creamed the americans in their own championship race. There was something about this in VeloNews some while back, making the National Championship race USA riders only. The US riders made up nearly 50% of the top 30 finishers. It is true than most of the DNFs were US riders. But,consider also that some of the allegely best US riders were not in Philadelphia. Perhaps it's time to move the championship to the week the Euro championshpis are held and make it an all american event. This has been discussed here at length before. No easy answer. How many other countries allow international riders in their championship? |
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Bravo Freddy
"Boyd Speerschneider" wrote in message ... "B. Lafferty" wrote in news:P6Kwc.15569$Yd3.10031 @newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net: A well desered win for a solid rider and a nice guy! BRAVO! 4th place isn't a win... even if he gets the jersey for the next year. Consider also that Freddy won the week long overall. |
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Bravo Freddy
B. Lafferty wrote:
"Richard Adams" wrote in message ... Boyd Speerschneider wrote: "B. Lafferty" wrote in news:P6Kwc.15569$Yd3.10031 : A well desered win for a solid rider and a nice guy! BRAVO! 4th place isn't a win... even if he gets the jersey for the next year. Yeah, look how the europeans creamed the americans in their own championship race. There was something about this in VeloNews some while back, making the National Championship race USA riders only. The US riders made up nearly 50% of the top 30 finishers. It is true than most of the DNFs were US riders. But,consider also that some of the allegely best US riders were not in Philadelphia. Perhaps it's time to move the championship to the week the Euro championshpis are held and make it an all american event. This has been discussed here at length before. No easy answer. Something I did see, here, I believe was this is the last year for this sponsor of the race. Maybe a new sponsor and a new time go together. |
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Bravo Freddy
Richard Adams wrote:
Boyd Speerschneider wrote: How many other countries allow international riders in their championship? None in Europe - |
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Bravo Freddy
"Richard Adams" wrote in message ... Yeah, look how the europeans creamed the americans in their own championship race. There was something about this in VeloNews some while back, making the National Championship race USA riders only. How many other countries allow international riders in their championship? Australia does, though usually only a few euros are in the bunch, and they mainly are there to help their Aussie teammates. Canada also, but the foreigners they attract are those riding on the US circuit. And the three Baltic countries have a funky race where all three jerseys are given out in one race. I think the problem with a national championship at the end of June is that you would never get any US rider planning to ride the Tour to come. And it would be a pity to limit Philly to US riders, because this would downgrade the best race on the domestic calendar. Probably the ideal solution would be to have another race, limited to US riders, run the same week as Philly/Trenton/Lancaster. It also would be nice if they made Philly a harder race so that we don't get a bunch sprint. But face it: the Philly race is a much bigger deal than the satisfaction of us real cycling fans, or even the cyclists and teams. The huge crowd and awesome civic support is special, and I bet the organizers are loathe to screw around with the formula (and I wouldn't blame them). JMS |
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Bravo Freddy
"JMS" wrote...
Probably the ideal solution would be to have another race, limited to US riders, run the same week as Philly/Trenton/Lancaster. It also would be nice if they made Philly a harder race so that we don't get a bunch sprint. But face it: the Philly race is a much bigger deal than the satisfaction of us real cycling fans, or even the cyclists and teams. The huge crowd and awesome civic support is special, and I bet the organizers are loathe to screw around with the formula (and I wouldn't blame them). It really boils down to a what -- thirteen mile (or whatever) circuit race. The fact that it's the "US Pro Cycling Championship" and in Philly probably speaks more to the weakness of USA Pro Cycling than to the strength of the course (eh?). A week of crits then a circuit race. The United States -- let's face it -- can create a better course, and a better week, in an equally strong economic center than that. I shudder to say this, but they could probably even do better in Boston. There's plenty of local money in Philadelphia that will try to keep it there, I am guessing, but a true national championship can do better than a circuit race, IMHO. JF |
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