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New bike path
On 3/15/2018 8:47 AM, Duane wrote:
On 14/03/2018 9:09 PM, Joy Beeson wrote: On Wed, 14 Mar 2018 08:36:45 -0700, Joerg wrote: If you provide proper infrastructure they will come: That's the second time this week that I've cackled aloud while sitting at the computer. I don't *do* that sort of thing. I rarely use segregated paths but there is a ride I like to do from my house in Montreal West Island area to the old port.Â* It's ~100k and really nice.Â* About 80k of it is on bike paths.Â* These paths follow the river and then the Lachine canal so there are basically no intersections.Â* Along the canal where the path crosses city streets the path has under or overpasses. Here's the thing.Â* I take the day off work on my birthday and do this ride with some friends because there's no one on the paths outside of the commute hours.Â* At commute time it's too crowded.Â* On weekends and holidays it's packed. So I guess my point is that if they make these things people use them. In Montreal, a lot of people use them.Â* Whether or not they make sense for commuters is another story.Â* And group riding on bike paths is a bad idea in any case if the paths aren't empty. Most of us probably enjoy a segregated path that's well-maintained, scenic, and mostly empty. Probably few of us enjoy a MUP when it's seeing heavy use. And with good reason! With widely varying users, narrow spaces and a "no rules" environment, movements are often chaotic. So Joerg should lobby for paths that will be unpopular, because those make for the best riding. Of course, that's a tough sell. Can you imagine asking for tax money for a new freeway, by saying "It will be great! Hardly anyone will use it!" Nationwide, only a tiny percentage of these facilities can be justified as shifting mode share from cars to bikes. Despite the cherry-picked examples, most miles of MUP connect nowhere to nowhere, for obvious reasons. So almost all are linear parks, even though they're "sold" as being transportation facilities. They should be paid for from park taxes, not federal or state transportation tax dollars. -- - Frank Krygowski |
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