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Converting Mtn. Frame to Winter/Cross Type Bike
What are the problems with trying to set up a mountain bike frame as a
winter-type road bike? I have a Schwinn mtn. bike that I never ride (aluminum frame, few years old) and I'd like to try to make use of the frame. I have a complete Ultegra group that I can put on it, so that's not an issue. From what I can think of, the issues a Fork - I'd replace the front shock with a steel or carbon cyclocross fork with canti bosses Wheels - I'd probably replace the tires with something more suitable to winter road riding (suggestions?) Bars/stem - I'm assuming I can set this up top get myself into the right position with road bars, can't I? The bike is sized for me as a mtn. bike. Brakeset - To be able to use the Ultegra brifters, I'd install a set of cantis (assuming it has v-brakes on it now ... I have to check). Comments on this? Any other issues/pitfalls? I know it's not the most elegant solution, but it'd be cheap, and probably good enough to get me outside in the Wisconsin winter. I don't really care for riding a mtn. bike set-up on the road, plus, I think it's be fun to screw around with this project (something to do). Any comments/suggestions, or is this a stupid/unworkable idea? |
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In article , tlarwa wrote: What are the problems with trying to set up a mountain bike frame as a winter-type road bike? I have a Schwinn mtn. bike that I never ride (aluminum frame, few years old) and I'd like to try to make use of the frame. I have a complete Ultegra group that I can put on it, so that's not an issue. From what I can think of, the issues a Fork - I'd replace the front shock with a steel or carbon cyclocross fork with canti bosses _ I would avoid "cyclocross" since that almost always means 700c wheels. You need a suspension corrected rigid MTB fork so the brakes will be in the correct place and the head tube at a comfortable angle. Wheels - I'd probably replace the tires with something more suitable to winter road riding (suggestions?) _ I use Avocet Cross II's on mine, but those are hard to find and relatively expensive. Any 1.5 or smaller slick 26" tire would be fine. Bars/stem - I'm assuming I can set this up top get myself into the right position with road bars, can't I? The bike is sized for me as a mtn. bike. _ Recent MTB's are sized with pretty long top tube lengths. It could work but I would double check this first before doing anything. You can compensate for a short top tube with a longer stem, but you don't have many options to make a long top tube shorter. Brakeset - To be able to use the Ultegra brifters, I'd install a set of cantis (assuming it has v-brakes on it now ... I have to check). Comments on this? _ You can get a device to allow you to use V-brakes with those levers. I have no idea how well it works in practice. You'll also likely have to mess around with the front derailler since the Ultegra brifter has the wrong indexing for an MTB derailler. The rear should work fine. Any other issues/pitfalls? I know it's not the most elegant solution, but it'd be cheap. _ Converting a bike is never cheap. If you look around you can probably get a usable cross or touring bike for around $500. You are already looking at nearly that or more. I'm not saying don't do it, a road bike with really fat slick tires is a lot of fun. Just don't kid yourself about the cost... and probably good enough to get me outside in the Wisconsin winter. I don't really care for riding a mtn. bike set-up on the road, plus, I think it's be fun to screw around with this project (something to do). Any comments/suggestions, or is this a stupid/unworkable idea? _ If it were me. I'd take a long look at the Surly Long Haul trucker in the smaller sizes that use 26" wheels. Between the MTB and the Ultegra group you should have nearly all the components you need. _ Another option would be to swap out the flat bar for some "trekking" or butterfly bars. Nashbar sells these pretty cheap and you don't need new shifters or brake levers. That and some light 26" slicks would get you going. You'd only be out a few $$ and some time. If you like it you could then get the solid fork. _ Booker C. Bense -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBQwT/c2TWTAjn5N/lAQGcagQAufmTux1Hpn71cmr/3uymx/sSm+FgP8wg bsOIe7z8hccwED8YNZsQhva+FEZr3y6aCBW49LKHnQjb2aEFpV ENOua2z6UuQQJl SWzM4A91S6Ef5mU3oZzdV+IJRNwhcHLhRbSCoPHwvJUWhJo/Jqg03t21DD33mIN4 4IpUs1JF/bg= =buXa -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- |
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Converting Mtn. Frame to Winter/Cross Type Bike
On Thu, 18 Aug 2005 20:43:54 +0000, tlarwa wrote:
Any comments/suggestions, or is this a stupid/unworkable idea? Fork: Nashbar rigid cromo mtb fork $65 Bars: Whatever's on sale: 25 Stem: Whatever's on sale: 25 Brake levers: Tektro: 15 Tape: 10 Tires: 30 So it starts to add up little by little... Easy enough to do--but are you wanting to retain your derailleurs? Then we have to figure out a way to shift--as the mtb shifters won't be compatible with road bars. |
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I have bars and several stems to play with. I planned on using the Ultegra
8-speed derailleurs (F and R) and brifters that I have laying around. I figured I's have to buy canti's though, correct? Tektro's seem to be a good, cheap way to go. "maxo" wrote in message news On Thu, 18 Aug 2005 20:43:54 +0000, tlarwa wrote: Any comments/suggestions, or is this a stupid/unworkable idea? Fork: Nashbar rigid cromo mtb fork $65 Bars: Whatever's on sale: 25 Stem: Whatever's on sale: 25 Brake levers: Tektro: 15 Tape: 10 Tires: 30 So it starts to add up little by little... Easy enough to do--but are you wanting to retain your derailleurs? Then we have to figure out a way to shift--as the mtb shifters won't be compatible with road bars. |
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viscosities tend to be an issue
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On Thu, 18 Aug 2005 22:18:16 +0000, tlarwa wrote:
I figured I's have to buy canti's though, correct? Tektro's seem to be a good, cheap way to go. Think it was mentioned in a recent thread that the mini-v brakes by Tektro will handle road levers just fine--might be worth a look. The price is right. |
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In article , tlarwa wrote: I have bars and several stems to play with. I planned on using the Ultegra 8-speed derailleurs (F and R) and brifters that I have laying around. I figured I's have to buy canti's though, correct? Tektro's seem to be a good, cheap way to go. _ Check the heal clearance before you buy the canti's. V-brakes were largely invented to allow "compact" style frame building on MTB's. _ Booker C. Bense -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBQwYcTWTWTAjn5N/lAQGMNgP/azq0lzwstiXkT8xipEmZ0vwVs2yB66yN e4JIzEERBgsHMCQGQ/sh4hCeZWlDNgaRgPqvb2D2CT0koJs73NCMv5Vb1yAGdlYu i/itFkzLcJ4duPDr8hb5i+QxtgRuzvZW2xFCHKTPA/h1BhbsCt3W1e/3KMbvT1Zk /Kg0pHBWKHM= =tDYQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- |
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the coldness is to be assumed. dry lubes. no lube plastics in
housings/cables, plastic bushings in derays no lube or inexpensive metal to metal models with dry lubes zero weight grease in the hubs-search google-there are companies to provide such-mil spec antartica and a nice set of bar pogies. see campmor.com for pre winter clothing buys-try the manzella sop stickup balclava-they send the email announcements campmor was giving gloves away in june |
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Converting Mtn. Frame to Winter/Cross Type Bike
tlarwa wrote: I have a complete Ultegra group that I can put on it, so that's not an issue. I'm assuming that you only want to replace as few of the MTB parts as you must, and that you are looking for a rugged bike with drop bars and brifters. If you really want to use all the Ultegra parts, there will be more problems... Fork - I'd replace the front shock with a steel or carbon cyclocross fork with canti bosses Won't work if you are using 26 inch MTB wheels. Tange suspension corrected steel MTB fork, about $50. It will still be shorter than the suspension fork, but close if your previous fork was in the under 75mm travel range. I put one on a 100mm travel bike, and the angles steepened by 2+ degrees, and with narrow slicks the pedals were too close to the ground. Bars/stem - I'm assuming I can set this up top get myself into the right position with road bars, can't I? You'll probably want a short stem because of the long TT on most MTB's, but it shouldn't be a problem. Brakeset - To be able to use the Ultegra brifters, I'd install a set of cantis (assuming it has v-brakes on it now ... I have to check). Comments on this? I recall seeing doodads available that allow you to use brifters and v-brakes... but I don't remember the name. Any comments/suggestions, or is this a stupid/unworkable idea? A closer ratio rear cluster (maybe from your Ultegra?) would be nice. Is your Ultegra shifter a triple? If not I guess you could remove the granny ring, and get a narrower bottom bracket spindle if you want a good chainline, *if* there is plenty of clearance between the rings and chainstay. Now that I think about it, I don't know if the geometry of a MTB front der. is similar enough to a road one for them to be compatible, though. Or, you could use the Ultegra cranks, BB, and and front der. if you want taller gears. Clearance with the chainstay, chainline, and der. clamp size are potential issues. Good luck! -Ron |
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Converting Mtn. Frame to Winter/Cross Type Bike
Consider a minimal approach, just changing the fork (to susp-corrected
rigid), probably the stem (to something w/o much rise) and definitely the tires (to a slick or semi-slick). Tires are the biggest deal - check out Michelin XCR for a total 26" slick, of XC-Hard Terrain for more off-road/bad road capability. Save yourself a lot of grief and stick with flat bars. You can get a decent riding position with the right stem. You may want to shorten the bars for road use (lop an inch off each end). Perhaps you'll want closer gearing on the cassette, say a 12-25 Ultegra (in which case you can shorten the chain by a couple of links). Lots of messengers ride around on bikes like this. They seem plenty fast. |
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