Sensible highway code changes

Look out for new highway code rules
November 19, 2010

=====Quote=====
CYCLISTS and pedestrians have been given new rights over cars in a
series of changes to the highway code in France.

The rules, which take immediate effect, mean pedestrians now always
have priority over cars when crossing a road. Until now, they had
priority only at specially designated crossings.

They need to "show a clear intention to cross" a road - described as
"an ostensible step forward or a hand gesture" - and vehicles are
required to stop for them.

The only exception is where a designated pedestrian crossing is less
than 50m away.

Drivers who ignore the rules face a fine of €135 or could lose four
points from their licence.

The new rules also allow bicycles to skip red lights if they are
turning right, but only at crossroads where there is a sign to that
effect.

It will be up to individual mayors to decide where this should be
allowed.

Also introduced in the code change is up to seven hours of obligatory
training for scooter-owners who hold a Permis B driving licence,
unless they have been using it for at least the past five years.

This last measure comes into force in January and will be accompanied
by increased spot checks and on-the-spot fines of €135 for anyone who
makes changes to their scooter's speed limiter.
=====/Quote=====
http://www.connexionfrance.com/highw...w-article.html

A £100 fine and 4 points for any motorist in the UK who doesn't give
way to a pedestrian or cyclist crossing the road, so long as there is
not a crossing within 50m makes excellent sense.

How do we lobby for this common sense approach to road use be adopted
in the UK?

On 08/10/2012 15:25, Bertie Wooster wrote:
Look out for new highway code rules
November 19, 2010

=====Quote=====
CYCLISTS and pedestrians have been given new rights over cars in a
series of changes to the highway code in France.

The rules, which take immediate effect, mean pedestrians now always
have priority over cars when crossing a road. Until now, they had
priority only at specially designated crossings.

They need to "show a clear intention to cross" a road - described as
"an ostensible step forward or a hand gesture" - and vehicles are
required to stop for them.

The only exception is where a designated pedestrian crossing is less
than 50m away.

Drivers who ignore the rules face a fine of €135 or could lose four
points from their licence.

The new rules also allow bicycles to skip red lights if they are
turning right, but only at crossroads where there is a sign to that
effect.

It will be up to individual mayors to decide where this should be
allowed.

Also introduced in the code change is up to seven hours of obligatory
training for scooter-owners who hold a Permis B driving licence,
unless they have been using it for at least the past five years.

This last measure comes into force in January and will be accompanied
by increased spot checks and on-the-spot fines of €135 for anyone who
makes changes to their scooter's speed limiter.
=====/Quote=====
http://www.connexionfrance.com/highw...w-article.html

A £100 fine and 4 points for any motorist in the UK who doesn't give
way to a pedestrian or cyclist crossing the road, so long as there is
not a crossing within 50m makes excellent sense.

How do we lobby for this common sense approach to road use be adopted
in the UK?

Easy.

Monitor the situation in France (the land of law-abiding drivers who always
stop at those hundreds of pedestrian crossings the moment they see a
pedestrian waiting to cross) and report the findings (after, say, five years)
to the DoT.

I am as sure as you are that it will work perfectly.

Bertie Wooster wrote:
Look out for new highway code rules
November 19, 2010

=====Quote=====
CYCLISTS and pedestrians have been given new rights over cars in a
series of changes to the highway code in France.

The rules, which take immediate effect, mean pedestrians now always
have priority over cars when crossing a road. Until now, they had
priority only at specially designated crossings.

They need to "show a clear intention to cross" a road - described as
"an ostensible step forward or a hand gesture" - and vehicles are
required to stop for them.

The only exception is where a designated pedestrian crossing is less
than 50m away.

Drivers who ignore the rules face a fine of ?135 or could lose four
points from their licence.

The new rules also allow bicycles to skip red lights if they are
turning right, but only at crossroads where there is a sign to that
effect.

It will be up to individual mayors to decide where this should be
allowed.

Also introduced in the code change is up to seven hours of obligatory
training for scooter-owners who hold a Permis B driving licence,
unless they have been using it for at least the past five years.

This last measure comes into force in January and will be accompanied
by increased spot checks and on-the-spot fines of ?135 for anyone who
makes changes to their scooter's speed limiter.
=====/Quote=====
http://www.connexionfrance.com/highw...w-article.html

A £100 fine and 4 points for any motorist in the UK who doesn't give
way to a pedestrian or cyclist crossing the road, so long as there is
not a crossing within 50m makes excellent sense.

How do we lobby for this common sense approach to road use be adopted
in the UK?

why have you added cyclists to the info.? a cyclist should not be riding
off the pavement in any case.

"Bertie Wooster" wrote

A £100 fine and 4 points for any motorist in the UK who doesn't give
way to a pedestrian or cyclist crossing the road, so long as there is
not a crossing within 50m makes excellent sense.

How do we lobby for this common sense approach to road use be adopted
in the UK?

We already have HC170. It would be a start if anybody (including
officialdom) paid attention to that.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiKQO6BVzyA

On Mon, 8 Oct 2012 16:21:35 +0100, "Mrcheerful"
wrote:

Bertie Wooster wrote:
Look out for new highway code rules
November 19, 2010

=====Quote=====
CYCLISTS and pedestrians have been given new rights over cars in a
series of changes to the highway code in France.

The rules, which take immediate effect, mean pedestrians now always
have priority over cars when crossing a road. Until now, they had
priority only at specially designated crossings.

They need to "show a clear intention to cross" a road - described as
"an ostensible step forward or a hand gesture" - and vehicles are
required to stop for them.

The only exception is where a designated pedestrian crossing is less
than 50m away.

Drivers who ignore the rules face a fine of ?135 or could lose four
points from their licence.

The new rules also allow bicycles to skip red lights if they are
turning right, but only at crossroads where there is a sign to that
effect.

It will be up to individual mayors to decide where this should be
allowed.

Also introduced in the code change is up to seven hours of obligatory
training for scooter-owners who hold a Permis B driving licence,
unless they have been using it for at least the past five years.

This last measure comes into force in January and will be accompanied
by increased spot checks and on-the-spot fines of ?135 for anyone who
makes changes to their scooter's speed limiter.
=====/Quote=====
http://www.connexionfrance.com/highw...w-article.html

A £100 fine and 4 points for any motorist in the UK who doesn't give
way to a pedestrian or cyclist crossing the road, so long as there is
not a crossing within 50m makes excellent sense.

How do we lobby for this common sense approach to road use be adopted
in the UK?

why have you added cyclists to the info.? a cyclist should not be riding
off the pavement in any case.

http://www.lewespeople.co.uk/images/...85/3738799.png

Bertie Wooster wrote:
On Mon, 8 Oct 2012 16:21:35 +0100, "Mrcheerful"
wrote:

Bertie Wooster wrote:
Look out for new highway code rules
November 19, 2010

=====Quote=====
CYCLISTS and pedestrians have been given new rights over cars in a
series of changes to the highway code in France.

The rules, which take immediate effect, mean pedestrians now always
have priority over cars when crossing a road. Until now, they had
priority only at specially designated crossings.

They need to "show a clear intention to cross" a road - described as
"an ostensible step forward or a hand gesture" - and vehicles are
required to stop for them.

The only exception is where a designated pedestrian crossing is less
than 50m away.

Drivers who ignore the rules face a fine of ?135 or could lose four
points from their licence.

The new rules also allow bicycles to skip red lights if they are
turning right, but only at crossroads where there is a sign to that
effect.

It will be up to individual mayors to decide where this should be
allowed.

Also introduced in the code change is up to seven hours of
obligatory training for scooter-owners who hold a Permis B driving
licence, unless they have been using it for at least the past five
years.

This last measure comes into force in January and will be
accompanied by increased spot checks and on-the-spot fines of ?135
for anyone who makes changes to their scooter's speed limiter.
=====/Quote=====
http://www.connexionfrance.com/highw...w-article.html

A £100 fine and 4 points for any motorist in the UK who doesn't give
way to a pedestrian or cyclist crossing the road, so long as there
is not a crossing within 50m makes excellent sense.

How do we lobby for this common sense approach to road use be
adopted in the UK?

why have you added cyclists to the info.? a cyclist should not be
riding off the pavement in any case.

http://www.lewespeople.co.uk/images/...85/3738799.png

that is joining traffic at a give way line, not crossing the road.

Bertie Wooster wrote:
On Mon, 8 Oct 2012 16:21:35 +0100, "Mrcheerful"
wrote:

Bertie Wooster wrote:
Look out for new highway code rules
November 19, 2010

=====Quote=====
CYCLISTS and pedestrians have been given new rights over cars in a
series of changes to the highway code in France.

The rules, which take immediate effect, mean pedestrians now always
have priority over cars when crossing a road. Until now, they had
priority only at specially designated crossings.

They need to "show a clear intention to cross" a road - described as
"an ostensible step forward or a hand gesture" - and vehicles are
required to stop for them.

The only exception is where a designated pedestrian crossing is less
than 50m away.

Drivers who ignore the rules face a fine of ?135 or could lose four
points from their licence.

The new rules also allow bicycles to skip red lights if they are
turning right, but only at crossroads where there is a sign to that
effect.

It will be up to individual mayors to decide where this should be
allowed.

Also introduced in the code change is up to seven hours of
obligatory training for scooter-owners who hold a Permis B driving
licence, unless they have been using it for at least the past five
years.

This last measure comes into force in January and will be
accompanied by increased spot checks and on-the-spot fines of ?135
for anyone who makes changes to their scooter's speed limiter.
=====/Quote=====
http://www.connexionfrance.com/highw...w-article.html

A £100 fine and 4 points for any motorist in the UK who doesn't give
way to a pedestrian or cyclist crossing the road, so long as there
is not a crossing within 50m makes excellent sense.

How do we lobby for this common sense approach to road use be
adopted in the UK?


Why would it only apply to 'motorists' (presumably you mean car drivers?)

On 08/10/2012 20:15, Mrcheerful wrote:
Bertie Wooster wrote:
On Mon, 8 Oct 2012 16:21:35 +0100, "Mrcheerful"
wrote:

Bertie Wooster wrote:
Look out for new highway code rules
November 19, 2010

=====Quote=====
CYCLISTS and pedestrians have been given new rights over cars in a
series of changes to the highway code in France.

The rules, which take immediate effect, mean pedestrians now always
have priority over cars when crossing a road. Until now, they had
priority only at specially designated crossings.

They need to "show a clear intention to cross" a road - described as
"an ostensible step forward or a hand gesture" - and vehicles are
required to stop for them.

The only exception is where a designated pedestrian crossing is less
than 50m away.

Drivers who ignore the rules face a fine of ?135 or could lose four
points from their licence.

The new rules also allow bicycles to skip red lights if they are
turning right, but only at crossroads where there is a sign to that
effect.

It will be up to individual mayors to decide where this should be
allowed.

Also introduced in the code change is up to seven hours of
obligatory training for scooter-owners who hold a Permis B driving
licence, unless they have been using it for at least the past five
years.

This last measure comes into force in January and will be
accompanied by increased spot checks and on-the-spot fines of ?135
for anyone who makes changes to their scooter's speed limiter.
=====/Quote=====
http://www.connexionfrance.com/highw...w-article.html

A £100 fine and 4 points for any motorist in the UK who doesn't give
way to a pedestrian or cyclist crossing the road, so long as there
is not a crossing within 50m makes excellent sense.

How do we lobby for this common sense approach to road use be
adopted in the UK?


Why would it only apply to 'motorists' (presumably you mean car drivers?)

Why *do* so many posters use that silly word, "motorists", when no-one ever
does so in real life?

Are they trying to conjure up some image of a rakish character in an open-top
tourer (a Bentley, perhaps), complete with handlebar moustache, tweed cap and
silk cravat and a nice line in Leslie Phillips-style seductive banter?

On Mon, 08 Oct 2012 15:25:59 +0100, Bertie Wooster
wrote:

The rules, which take immediate effect, mean pedestrians now always
have priority over cars when crossing a road. Until now, they had
priority only at specially designated crossings.

Do they have priority over cyclists as well?

Peter Parry wrote:
On Mon, 08 Oct 2012 15:25:59 +0100, Bertie Wooster
wrote:

The rules, which take immediate effect, mean pedestrians now always
have priority over cars when crossing a road. Until now, they had
priority only at specially designated crossings.

Do they have priority over cyclists as well?

Everyone has. priority over cyclists :-)