Cycle Speed Limits on a normal Cycle Path?

On 7 Feb 2007 13:10:25 -0800, wrote:

Has anybody here ever been breath-testing whilst on a cycle?

I suspect the officer would ask them to get off before conducting a test.

On 07/02/2007 20:32, GeoffC said,

Nope, I disagree. You can hear a car coming up behind you but a bike is as
good as silent. If I am walking along a cycle path I would rather be warned
by a gentle "ding " than surprised by the slipstream of a passing bike.

Can't win really. I often ring my bell, and they think I'm using it in
the same way as a car horn - i.e., "Get out of my way". The trick when
deciding whether or not to ring is to try to work out what sort of
people will give which reaction :-)

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On 07/02/2007 20:47, JonMcD said,

Closest I have seen to a general limit on cycle paths is in some
government publication saying that if you want to cycle faster than 18
mph on a cycle path you should consider using the road. Can't find a
source for that though.

I wonder if Daniel Cadden's team had that source.

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On 7 Feb 2007 13:10:25 -0800, wrote:

Has anybody here ever been breath-testing whilst on a cycle?

Yes. The result was green. It's so long ago I can't recall the exact
circumstances, but I guess I must have shouted some abuse at a driver
(I was young then and knew no better).

I have also been proscecuted twice and found non guilty twice for
being drunk in charge of a bicycle.

Fortunately, the standard for being drunk in charge of a bicycle is
the same as drunk and disorderly and magistrates tend to take the view
that if you are able to cycle in a reasonably straight line you can't
be *that* drunk.

Both court appearences were a hoot, and the cases always come up when
I have an enhanced CRB check - it livens up an otherwise dull
interview.

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and info

Interesting forks in this one:
http://www.classiclightweights.co.uk/racingbates800.jpg

Were they bent like that to provide some shock absorption?

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On Wed, 07 Feb, Don Whybrow wrote:

Interesting forks in this one:
http://www.classiclightweights.co.uk/racingbates800.jpg

Were they bent like that to provide some shock absorption?

I've always assumed that things like this (and, for example, Hetchins
curly stays) were actually produced solely to have a distinguishing
feature, and passed off as some super scientific development that
provides shock absorption (or whatever).

Much like the three-triangle GT frame still does.

As a structural engineer (who specialises more on the analysis side of
things than the dirty end), I have a great deal of trouble believing
many of the claims (well, we put more metal in, and that makes it
lighter!). Certainly, there are some slightly counter-intuitive
effects in bicycle design. For example, butting the spokes, making
them thinner, gives a more durable wheel, which most people would
interpret as a stronger wheel, so we make spokes weaker gives us makes
the wheel stronger. In some cases it actually does make a stronger
wheel too. However, I don't think wiggly tubes ever fall into that
category.

regards, Ian SMith
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On Feb 7, 9:22 pm, Tom Crispin
wrote:
On 7 Feb 2007 13:10:25 -0800, wrote:

Has anybody here ever been breath-testing whilst on a cycle?

Yes. The result was green. It's so long ago I can't recall the exact
circumstances, but I guess I must have shouted some abuse at a driver
(I was young then and knew no better).

I have also been proscecuted twice and found non guilty twice for
being drunk in charge of a bicycle.

Fortunately, the standard for being drunk in charge of a bicycle is
the same as drunk and disorderly and magistrates tend to take the view
that if you are able to cycle in a reasonably straight line you can't
be *that* drunk.

http://www.askthe.police.uk/content/Q411.htm says that:

"Yes, it is an offence to ride a pedal cycle on a road or other public
place whilst being unfit through drink or drugs, basically so as to be
so under the influence of drink or drugs that the person does not have
proper control of the pedal cycle."
I guess riding in a reasonably straight line imples proper control of
the bike.

PS already sent them the speeding question to see what they say!

Both court appearences were a hoot, and the cases always come up when
I have an enhanced CRB check - it livens up an otherwise dull
interview.

I know an enhanced one allows the police to disclose relevant
information (rather than just convictions) but I think that is pushing
the limit as it was so long ago and you were never found guilty!

peter

On 7 Feb 2007, naked_draughtsman wrote:

PS already sent them the speeding question to see what they say!

What question did you ask?

There is no doubt whatsoever that speed limits do not apply to cycles,
so asking if they do is akin to asking if you'll be arrested for
murder if you cut the head off a carrot.

Was it something more subtle than that?

[of CRB checks]
I know an enhanced one allows the police to disclose relevant
information (rather than just convictions) but I think that is pushing
the limit as it was so long ago and you were never found guilty!

Count yourself lucky they don't release details of someone else's
convictions against your check - that seems alarmingly common
(alarming for those of us with less unusual names, anyway).

regards, Ian SMith
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in message 45ca4058.0@entanet, Zog The Undeniable
') wrote:

wrote:
Are there any speed-limits for a standard cycle?

Thank you.

No, but few of them seem to have a design speed of more than 15mph.

Oh, for heaven's sake! Any bike that's designed to go down a hill has to be
able to handle predictably and stop effectively from at least 40mph.

Regarding the OP's question, I think that most people who habitually cycle
above 16mph tend to prefer roads to cycle paths, but I don't know of any
specific speed limits, nor do I know of any legislation under which such
limits could be imposed.

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in message , Helen Deborah Vecht
') wrote:

yped


Are there any speed-limits for a standard cycle?

Thank you.

No but there is a limit of 8mph on Hampstead Heath and something else in
Richmond Park.

Is that a local bye-law?

Mixing with pedestrians at 10mph is not personally recommended.

Agreed.

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