ARBR - RIP

On Feb 15, 12:10*am, Simon Brooke wrote:
Edward Dolan wrote:
Only the Great Ed Doan and his weasel of a stalker Jim McNamara have been
on ARBR for the past week with a chirp or two from the peanut gallery,
i.e., Tom Sherman. This newsgroup is now dead as a door nail.

As a general rule I don't respond to trolls, but this is hypocrisy gone too
far. Yes, you - you personally, none other - have destroyed a Usenet
resource that was useful to other people. And you have done so in the
comfortable knowledge that none of the people who have been harmed by your
actions are near enough to you to smack you in the face as you deserve. I
hope you feel proud.

--
(Simon Brooke)http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/

* * * * ;; Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they
* * * * ;; do it from religious conviction." - Pascal

The UseNet is a unmoderated group list. It assumes that all
participants will stay on subject. In the case of ARBR, it is a
discussion of recumbents, not politics, religion, or alternative life
styles. Unlike the bumper of your car or the privacy of your home ,
it's not a place to express your opinions except those concerning
recumbents. I understand that recumbents were once coveted by the
counter-culture and for old time sake it may be cool to throw in a
comment about your misadventures of civil disobedience during a recent
Critical Mass, but your comments and opinions will be weighed.

As for Simon's claim of hypocrisy gone too far; his sig is complete
hypocrisy:
"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it
from religious conviction." - Pascal
Simon's attempt to marginalize religion is offensive to me. After all,
the most evil men in the 20th century included Hitler, Stalin, Po Pot
(Soloth Sar), Lenin. They were all athiest and socialist, yet they all
murdered millions with cheer.
Simon- You preach, yet you are a moral deginerate! Why don't you be
good Englishman and at least change your offending sig?


Cheers!


Rick

(who?) anonymously snipes:
On Feb 15, 12:10 am, Simon Brooke wrote:
Edward Dolan wrote:
Only the Great Ed Doan and his weasel of a stalker Jim McNamara have been
on ARBR for the past week with a chirp or two from the peanut gallery,
i.e., Tom Sherman. This newsgroup is now dead as a door nail.
As a general rule I don't respond to trolls, but this is hypocrisy gone too
far. Yes, you - you personally, none other - have destroyed a Usenet
resource that was useful to other people. And you have done so in the
comfortable knowledge that none of the people who have been harmed by your
actions are near enough to you to smack you in the face as you deserve. I
hope you feel proud.

--
(Simon Brooke)http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/

;; Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they
;; do it from religious conviction." - Pascal

The UseNet is a unmoderated group list. It assumes that all
participants will stay on subject. In the case of ARBR, it is a
discussion of recumbents, not politics, religion, or alternative life
styles. Unlike the bumper of your car or the privacy of your home ,
it's not a place to express your opinions except those concerning
recumbents. I understand that recumbents were once coveted by the
counter-culture and for old time sake it may be cool to throw in a
comment about your misadventures of civil disobedience during a recent
Critical Mass, but your comments and opinions will be weighed.

As for Simon's claim of hypocrisy gone too far; his sig is complete
hypocrisy:
"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it
from religious conviction." - Pascal
Simon's attempt to marginalize religion is offensive to me. After all,
the most evil men in the 20th century included Hitler, Stalin, Po Pot
(Soloth Sar), Lenin. They were all athiest and socialist, yet they all
murdered millions with cheer.

Hitler was a fascist, not a socialist. The "Night of the Long Knives"
was about purging the socialist element from the SA (and for practical
purposes from the Nazi Party). Hitler was also not an atheist.

Stalin, Lenin and Pol Pot were autocrats who only paid lip service to
communism. It is very likely that Lenin was in the service of people
whose main goal was to replace the Romanov's (and not for the benefit of
the Russian proletariat either).

Simon- You preach, yet you are a moral deginerate! Why don't you be
good Englishman and at least change your offending sig?

Spel chequer (sic)?

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
The weather is here, wish you were beautiful

Edward Dolan wrote:
wrote in message
...

[Quotation hierarchy is missing. I have supplied my own marks.]...

And Ed Dolan still can not get this right.

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
The weather is here, wish you were beautiful

On Feb 19, 4:14*pm, Tom Sherman
wrote:
(who?) anonymously snipes:





On Feb 15, 12:10 am, Simon Brooke wrote:
Edward Dolan wrote:
Only the Great Ed Doan and his weasel of a stalker Jim McNamara have been
on ARBR for the past week with a chirp or two from the peanut gallery,
i.e., Tom Sherman. This newsgroup is now dead as a door nail.
As a general rule I don't respond to trolls, but this is hypocrisy gone too
far. Yes, you - you personally, none other - have destroyed a Usenet
resource that was useful to other people. And you have done so in the
comfortable knowledge that none of the people who have been harmed by your
actions are near enough to you to smack you in the face as you deserve. I
hope you feel proud.

--
(Simon Brooke)http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/

* * * * ;; Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they
* * * * ;; do it from religious conviction." - Pascal

The UseNet is a unmoderated group list. *It assumes that all
participants will stay on subject. *In the case of ARBR, it is a
discussion of recumbents, not politics, religion, or alternative life
styles. *Unlike the bumper of your car or the privacy of your home ,
it's not a place to express your opinions except those concerning
recumbents. *I understand that recumbents were once coveted by the
counter-culture and for old time sake it may be cool to throw in a
comment about your misadventures of civil disobedience during a recent
Critical Mass, but your comments and opinions will be weighed.

As for Simon's claim of hypocrisy gone too far; his sig is complete
hypocrisy:
"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it
from religious conviction." - Pascal
Simon's attempt to marginalize religion is offensive to me. After all,
the most evil men in the 20th century included Hitler, Stalin, Po Pot
(Soloth Sar), Lenin. They were all athiest and socialist, yet they all
murdered millions with cheer.

Hitler was a fascist, not a socialist. The "Night of the Long Knives"
was about purging the socialist element from the SA (and for practical
purposes from the Nazi Party). Hitler was also not an atheist.

Stalin, Lenin and Pol Pot were autocrats who only paid lip service to
communism. It is very likely that Lenin was in the service of people
whose main goal was to replace the Romanov's (and not for the benefit of
the Russian proletariat either).

Simon- You preach, yet you are a moral deginerate! Why don't you be
good Englishman and at least change your offending sig?

Spel chequer (sic)?

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
The weather is here, wish you were beautiful- Hide quoted text -

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Mr. Sherman,

I beg to differ. Hitler ran his campaign on the National Socialist
Party, better known as the NAZI party. Lenin and Stalin were both
communist, the purest form of socialism. Ironic that people are
murdered when they give their freedoms away to socialism. BTW- I
don't give a rats butt if Hitler was a "Fascist", he ran as a
socialist and betrayed the foolish people that elected him. However,
I digress. Recumbents are cool!!!!

wrote:

I beg to differ. Hitler ran his campaign on the National Socialist
Party, better known as the NAZI party. Lenin and Stalin were both
communist, the purest form of socialism.

You appear to have confused what something calls itself with what it
actually /is/.

"Hey, wake up!"
"errrr, it's 3 am..."
"there's someone else in the house, I heard them making a noise"
"Okay, I'll go and check it out..., you call the police"

"He said he was in to read the electricity meter and apologised for the
noise, so I left him to it"
"Oh, that's okay then, I'll not call 911"

That's almost a tenth as dumb as thinking Hitler was a socialist because
he called his party the National Socialists...

A widely accepted working definition for what socialism is /meant/ to be
is encapsulated by "From each according to their ability, to each
according to their need". So only if you think large tracts of the
population of occupied Europe /needed/ to be murdered for their own good
can "National Socialism" be equated with socialism. As for Soviet
"communism", "from each according to what they're told, to each
according to whether they're card carrying party members and to an
extent determined by their place in the hierarchy" isn't really the same
thing either.

All of these people were dressing up in socialist clothes for the PR,
nothing more. If you want a look at real socialism you'll get much
closer to the truth by looking at, say, Scandinavian governments of the
post-war era than you'll find in the USSR, the 3rd Reich or Kampuchea.

Ironic that people are
murdered when they give their freedoms away to socialism.

Sad that they were duped into thinking that their governments were
anything to do with socialism.

Pete.
--
Peter Clinch Medical Physics IT Officer
Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital
Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK
net http://www.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/

"Tom Sherman" wrote in message
...
(who?) anonymously snipes:
[...]
As for Simon's claim of hypocrisy gone too far; his sig is complete
hypocrisy:
"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it
from religious conviction." - Pascal
Simon's attempt to marginalize religion is offensive to me. After all,
the most evil men in the 20th century included Hitler, Stalin, Po Pot
(Soloth Sar), Lenin. They were all athiest and socialist, yet they all
murdered millions with cheer.

Hitler was a fascist, not a socialist. The "Night of the Long Knives" was
about purging the socialist element from the SA (and for practical
purposes from the Nazi Party). Hitler was also not an atheist.

Mr. Sherman's education stops with the liberal blogs. He needs to read a
book recently published.

LIBERAL FASCISM
The Secret History of the American Left From Mussolini to the Politics of
Meaning.

By Jonah Goldberg.

487 pp. Doubleday. $27.95.

As to religion Hitler was a basically a pagan.

Stalin, Lenin and Pol Pot were autocrats who only paid lip service to
communism. It is very likely that Lenin was in the service of people whose
main goal was to replace the Romanov's (and not for the benefit of the
Russian proletariat either).

The Soviet experiment in Russia was a serious attempt to establish communism
in a single nation. Like all utopian schemes it failed badly because it did
not take into account human nature.
[...]

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

wrote in message
...
On Feb 19, 4:14 pm, Tom Sherman
wrote:
(who?) anonymously snipes:
[...]
As for Simon's claim of hypocrisy gone too far; his sig is complete
hypocrisy:
"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it
from religious conviction." - Pascal
Simon's attempt to marginalize religion is offensive to me. After all,
the most evil men in the 20th century included Hitler, Stalin, Po Pot
(Soloth Sar), Lenin. They were all athiest and socialist, yet they all
murdered millions with cheer.

Hitler was a fascist, not a socialist. The "Night of the Long Knives"
was about purging the socialist element from the SA (and for practical
purposes from the Nazi Party). Hitler was also not an atheist.

Stalin, Lenin and Pol Pot were autocrats who only paid lip service to
communism. It is very likely that Lenin was in the service of people
whose main goal was to replace the Romanov's (and not for the benefit of
the Russian proletariat either).
[...]

Mr. Sherman,

I beg to differ. Hitler ran his campaign on the National Socialist
Party, better known as the NAZI party. Lenin and Stalin were both
communist, the purest form of socialism. Ironic that people are
murdered when they give their freedoms away to socialism. BTW- I
don't give a rats butt if Hitler was a "Fascist", he ran as a
socialist and betrayed the foolish people that elected him. However,
I digress. Recumbents are cool!!!!

Ricky is right and Sherman is wrong, but that is the way it always go with
liberal ideologues like him.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

"Peter Clinch" wrote in message
...
wrote:

I beg to differ. Hitler ran his campaign on the National Socialist
Party, better known as the NAZI party. Lenin and Stalin were both
communist, the purest form of socialism.

You appear to have confused what something calls itself with what it
actually /is/.

"Hey, wake up!"
"errrr, it's 3 am..."
"there's someone else in the house, I heard them making a noise"
"Okay, I'll go and check it out..., you call the police"

"He said he was in to read the electricity meter and apologised for the
noise, so I left him to it"
"Oh, that's okay then, I'll not call 911"

That's almost a tenth as dumb as thinking Hitler was a socialist because
he called his party the National Socialists...

Yes, Hitler is an embarrassment to all leftists just as Lenin and Stalin
should be, but often aren't. English leftists like Peter Clinch of Dundee
Scotland have never been able to get their act together. Apparently the
English have too much common sense to fall for it like the Germans and the
Russians did.

A widely accepted working definition for what socialism is /meant/ to be
is encapsulated by "From each according to their ability, to each
according to their need". So only if you think large tracts of the
population of occupied Europe /needed/ to be murdered for their own good
can "National Socialism" be equated with socialism. As for Soviet
"communism", "from each according to what they're told, to each
according to whether they're card carrying party members and to an
extent determined by their place in the hierarchy" isn't really the same
thing either.

The above is too dumb for comment. English idiots are the worst idiots in
the world.

All of these people were dressing up in socialist clothes for the PR,
nothing more. If you want a look at real socialism you'll get much
closer to the truth by looking at, say, Scandinavian governments of the
post-war era than you'll find in the USSR, the 3rd Reich or Kampuchea.

The Scandinavians are more liberal (welfare state) than socialist. Hitler
was a serious leftist just as they all are. But when they fail, liberals
want to disown them. Funny how they never think there might be something
wrong with the ideology itself.

Ironic that people are
murdered when they give their freedoms away to socialism.

Sad that they were duped into thinking that their governments were
anything to do with socialism.

Socialism belongs right along side of communism and mass murder. Liberalism
is the gateway to it all.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

"Tom Sherman" wrote in message
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Edward Dolan wrote:
wrote in message
...

[Quotation hierarchy is missing. I have supplied my own marks.]...

And Ed Dolan still can not get this right.

What kind of idiot are you anyway? I have already explained the situation to
you a half dozen times. Some of the posts coming from the Google Groups
website arrive on my Windows Mail messed up. That is because those posting
from that website are doing something wrong. I will continue to supply my
own quotation marks so as to distinguish my wise words from their stupid
words. That is all that matters in the end.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

Edward Dolan wrote:
"Tom Sherman" wrote in message
...
Edward Dolan wrote:
wrote in message
...

[Quotation hierarchy is missing. I have supplied my own marks.]...
And Ed Dolan still can not get this right.

What kind of idiot are you anyway? I have already explained the situation to
you a half dozen times. Some of the posts coming from the Google Groups
website arrive on my Windows Mail messed up. That is because those posting
from that website are doing something wrong. I will continue to supply my
own quotation marks so as to distinguish my wise words from their stupid
words. That is all that matters in the end.

Mozilla Thunderbird handles posts from Google Groups without a problem.

FINAL SCO

Thunderbird - 1
Windows Mail - 0

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Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
The weather is here, wish you were beautiful