Bells or noise making

"Deep Floyd Mars" wrote in message
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I tend to assume that drivers cannot see me, and are not going to make
allowances for me. This is part of being defensive on a bike. And you have
to allow for drivers throwing their car doors open without looking. It
happens all the time, and no matter how many education campaigns there
are,
it wont make people glance in their side mirror first.

Intersections can be fun, but you can always find a suitable, and safe,
line
to take through. Being aware of the flow of traffic helps. Keeping an eye
out for idiots that don't indicate, and don't know where they are going is
not a bad idea either.

Agree with all of the above, especially the paths bit. Traffic is like a
constantly changing 3d picture, you just gotta make sure to "melt" into it.

I've found it helps with motorbike riding as well no end. I rode for several
years 360 days a year in the streets of Oslo before coming down here and
then finally getting a motorised vehicle in addition to my pushbikes.

I can go very fast through the traffic on my CBR250RR (soon to be R6'03?),
courtesy of all my pushbike training. I'm also very aware of those typical
pitfalls like when people don't tend to notice me, that's all automatic.



j

"Arpit" wrote in message
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I'm actually gonna add a car horn to my bike. I was gonna put on a
train horn, but then foudn i need a big compressor. A train horn would
rock though
I already havea 12 volt electrical system to power my 50 watt halogen
light

I don't know about you, but I want the horn Carrey used in the mask.

"Squeeze me gently."

j

"Arpit" wrote in message
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I'm actually gonna add a car horn to my bike. I was gonna put on a
train horn, but then foudn i need a big compressor. A train horn would
rock though
I already havea 12 volt electrical system to power my 50 watt halogen
light

I don't know about you, but I want the horn Carrey used in the mask.

"Squeeze me gently."

j

On Thu, 07 Aug 2003 09:15:37 GMT, Andre S.
wrote:

On Wed, 06 Aug 2003 18:50:08 +1000, Andrew Swan wrote:

RS wrote:
Which sort of bell would most cyclists prefer?


If you ride on bike paths, I find a bell is best. As I read somewhere

But yes, in traffic you may need to step up a level. I have actually

I use the smallest bell that I could find mounted out of the way on stem.
Even the best bell is useless on the road but legally required - bizzare.
And if I really need to warn, I also need my hands on the brakes.
The canti screech is pretty loud now I think of it.

On the path, I consider bell and voice but now prefer a friendly "hello"
as I overtake.

You overtake? heh, I'm always being overtaken

AndreS.au === I ride therefore I am

On Thu, 07 Aug 2003 09:15:37 GMT, Andre S.
wrote:

On Wed, 06 Aug 2003 18:50:08 +1000, Andrew Swan wrote:

RS wrote:
Which sort of bell would most cyclists prefer?


If you ride on bike paths, I find a bell is best. As I read somewhere

But yes, in traffic you may need to step up a level. I have actually

I use the smallest bell that I could find mounted out of the way on stem.
Even the best bell is useless on the road but legally required - bizzare.
And if I really need to warn, I also need my hands on the brakes.
The canti screech is pretty loud now I think of it.

On the path, I consider bell and voice but now prefer a friendly "hello"
as I overtake.

You overtake? heh, I'm always being overtaken

AndreS.au === I ride therefore I am

On Thu, 7 Aug 2003 19:30:34 +1000, "Jorgen"
wrote:

"cfsmtb" wrote in message
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For non-verbal, try pointing/ "polite" gesturing and baring the teeth
simultaneously when some inattentive twit attempts driving over you at
intersection/side street/drive way.

Mmmm, my most often used "non-verbal" for inattentive cagers is classified
as "road rage".

Cagers?
Myself I think it is a pretty mild response to someone trying to kill you.

j

On Thu, 7 Aug 2003 19:30:34 +1000, "Jorgen"
wrote:

"cfsmtb" wrote in message
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[...]

For non-verbal, try pointing/ "polite" gesturing and baring the teeth
simultaneously when some inattentive twit attempts driving over you at
intersection/side street/drive way.

Mmmm, my most often used "non-verbal" for inattentive cagers is classified
as "road rage".

Cagers?
Myself I think it is a pretty mild response to someone trying to kill you.

j

"RS" wrote in message
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Which sort of bell would most cyclists prefer?
Personally I like the old ring-a-tring bells. They sound like a bike, and
one
stroke is needed for 2-3 seconds of noise, which is better than one "ting"
or
"honk" from other sorts IMHO.

RS


"Time spent cycling is not added to one's life"


I've been riding for the last 10 years without a bell. The best method of
getting attention on a bike track with morning walker travelling three
abreast (the most normal traffic hazard on bike tracks around my area) is to
call out passing from about 20 metres behind, then more insistently from
about 10 metres behind.

On the way past I also normally say thankyou, particularly if I have not had
to slow down.

Tim

"RS" wrote in message
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Which sort of bell would most cyclists prefer?
Personally I like the old ring-a-tring bells. They sound like a bike, and
one
stroke is needed for 2-3 seconds of noise, which is better than one "ting"
or
"honk" from other sorts IMHO.

RS


"Time spent cycling is not added to one's life"


I've been riding for the last 10 years without a bell. The best method of
getting attention on a bike track with morning walker travelling three
abreast (the most normal traffic hazard on bike tracks around my area) is to
call out passing from about 20 metres behind, then more insistently from
about 10 metres behind.

On the way past I also normally say thankyou, particularly if I have not had
to slow down.

Tim

In NSW it is the law that you have to have a bell or some kind of
similar device.
In the city a bell works best, people tend to ignore you if you just
yell something at them.

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Cheers
LB

No matter how fast I ride, my posts always catch up with me.