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Can not get bike to shift gears properly
I have taken my bike to 2 different shops to have my gears adjusted.
They do not shift properly and end up "clicking" instead of shifting into the correct gear. I have had 2 shops adjust the bike and the adjustment never lasts more than 3 or 4 days. My chain and all components are very clean. What's is going on? Andy |
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Can not get bike to shift gears properly
On 8/12/2019 7:33 PM, AK wrote:
I have taken my bike to 2 different shops to have my gears adjusted. They do not shift properly and end up "clicking" instead of shifting into the correct gear. I have had 2 shops adjust the bike and the adjustment never lasts more than 3 or 4 days. My chain and all components are very clean. What's is going on? Andy If two shops gave it any attention I'll assume the chain is not too worn, nor the changer, and that it has reasonably straight chainline and that the gear tab (or adapter in your case) is straight. Which leads me to think that, absent gross problems above, your Huffy, as so many inexpensive indexed bicycles,may have spiral casing and coarse gear wires. If that's so, a sub-$20 gear cable/casing set will be an improvement. Get 5mm if at all possible rather than 4mm although either will work. Your LBS is not your enemy, usually. They're maybe busy and/or distracted but not evil. If you return to the most recent shop which serviced it, ask the guy what he recommends to improve shift reliability and particularly if a cable set would be helpful. Print this and bring it with you. -- Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org/ Open every day since 1 April, 1971 |
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On Mon, 12 Aug 2019 17:33:50 -0700 (PDT), AK
wrote: I have taken my bike to 2 different shops to have my gears adjusted. They do not shift properly and end up "clicking" instead of shifting into the correct gear. I have had 2 shops adjust the bike and the adjustment never lasts more than 3 or 4 days. My chain and all components are very clean. What's is going on? Andy In my experience (for whatever that is worth :-) if the shifting changes dramatically it is usually something like a misaligned shift cable housing which allows the housing to move after the adjustments are made, or even a poorly tightened cable clamp. I've also noticed that after the shifter is adjusted that in a day or so it sometimes requires a bit of added adjustment - maybe a part of a turn of the adjuster (if there is one) - and once that adjustment is made satisfactorily than things remain the same for months. -- cheers, John B. |
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On Monday, August 12, 2019 at 7:47:34 PM UTC-5, AMuzi wrote:
On 8/12/2019 7:33 PM, AK wrote: I have taken my bike to 2 different shops to have my gears adjusted. They do not shift properly and end up "clicking" instead of shifting into the correct gear. I have had 2 shops adjust the bike and the adjustment never lasts more than 3 or 4 days. My chain and all components are very clean. What's is going on? Andy If two shops gave it any attention I'll assume the chain is not too worn, nor the changer, and that it has reasonably straight chainline and that the gear tab (or adapter in your case) is straight. Which leads me to think that, absent gross problems above, your Huffy, as so many inexpensive indexed bicycles,may have spiral casing and coarse gear wires. If that's so, a sub-$20 gear cable/casing set will be an improvement. Get 5mm if at all possible rather than 4mm although either will work. Your LBS is not your enemy, usually. They're maybe busy and/or distracted but not evil. If you return to the most recent shop which serviced it, ask the guy what he recommends to improve shift reliability and particularly if a cable set would be helpful. Print this and bring it with you. -- Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org/ Open every day since 1 April, 1971 You reach some strange conclusions. My local bike shops have always been helpful and I have never seen any as "evil". A link to the "sub-$20 gear cable/casing set" would be appreciated. Andy |
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On Monday, August 12, 2019 at 5:47:34 PM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
On 8/12/2019 7:33 PM, AK wrote: I have taken my bike to 2 different shops to have my gears adjusted. They do not shift properly and end up "clicking" instead of shifting into the correct gear. I have had 2 shops adjust the bike and the adjustment never lasts more than 3 or 4 days. My chain and all components are very clean. What's is going on? Andy If two shops gave it any attention I'll assume the chain is not too worn, nor the changer, and that it has reasonably straight chainline and that the gear tab (or adapter in your case) is straight. Which leads me to think that, absent gross problems above, your Huffy, as so many inexpensive indexed bicycles,may have spiral casing and coarse gear wires. If that's so, a sub-$20 gear cable/casing set will be an improvement. Get 5mm if at all possible rather than 4mm although either will work. Your LBS is not your enemy, usually. They're maybe busy and/or distracted but not evil. If you return to the most recent shop which serviced it, ask the guy what he recommends to improve shift reliability and particularly if a cable set would be helpful. Print this and bring it with you. -- Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org/ Open every day since 1 April, 1971 I have seen the same thing happen when no cable ends were used. The outer slowly pulls through the eyelet shortening the outer and causing bad shifting. That is why these plastic end caps that anyone can press on manually are such a boon for the home mechanic. Though the latest Park cable cutter has a much higher grade cable end crimper. |
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On Tuesday, August 13, 2019 at 11:48:26 AM UTC-4, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Monday, August 12, 2019 at 5:47:34 PM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote: On 8/12/2019 7:33 PM, AK wrote: I have taken my bike to 2 different shops to have my gears adjusted. They do not shift properly and end up "clicking" instead of shifting into the correct gear. I have had 2 shops adjust the bike and the adjustment never lasts more than 3 or 4 days. My chain and all components are very clean. What's is going on? Andy If two shops gave it any attention I'll assume the chain is not too worn, nor the changer, and that it has reasonably straight chainline and that the gear tab (or adapter in your case) is straight. Which leads me to think that, absent gross problems above, your Huffy, as so many inexpensive indexed bicycles,may have spiral casing and coarse gear wires. If that's so, a sub-$20 gear cable/casing set will be an improvement. Get 5mm if at all possible rather than 4mm although either will work. Your LBS is not your enemy, usually. They're maybe busy and/or distracted but not evil. If you return to the most recent shop which serviced it, ask the guy what he recommends to improve shift reliability and particularly if a cable set would be helpful. Print this and bring it with you. -- Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org/ Open every day since 1 April, 1971 I have seen the same thing happen when no cable ends were used. The outer slowly pulls through the eyelet shortening the outer and causing bad shifting. That is why these plastic end caps that anyone can press on manually are such a boon for the home mechanic. Though the latest Park cable cutter has a much higher grade cable end crimper. I used a plastic end cap on a REAR derailleur cable housing ONCE. Never again! It didn't take to long for the cable housing strands to start pulling through that plastic end cap. I ONLY use METAL end caps now. Cheers |
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Can not get bike to shift gears properly
On 8/12/2019 8:55 PM, John B. wrote:
On Mon, 12 Aug 2019 17:33:50 -0700 (PDT), AK wrote: I have taken my bike to 2 different shops to have my gears adjusted. They do not shift properly and end up "clicking" instead of shifting into the correct gear. I have had 2 shops adjust the bike and the adjustment never lasts more than 3 or 4 days. My chain and all components are very clean. What's is going on? Andy In my experience (for whatever that is worth :-) if the shifting changes dramatically it is usually something like a misaligned shift cable housing which allows the housing to move after the adjustments are made, or even a poorly tightened cable clamp. I've also noticed that after the shifter is adjusted that in a day or so it sometimes requires a bit of added adjustment - maybe a part of a turn of the adjuster (if there is one) - and once that adjustment is made satisfactorily than things remain the same for months. I think it's very common for new cables to somehow "settle in," making the inner wire effectively (not actually) longer. The cure is to lengthen the path of the housing to match. On a hilly club ride this year, a new rider on a new bike was having lots of shifting problems, lots of missed and grinding shifts. "The bike shop just adjusted it!" etc. At a stop, without even dismounting from my bike, I turned her cable housing length adjuster out half a turn and said "Try that." It shifted perfectly the rest of the ride. -- - Frank Krygowski |
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On 8/13/2019 10:48 AM, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Monday, August 12, 2019 at 5:47:34 PM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote: On 8/12/2019 7:33 PM, AK wrote: I have taken my bike to 2 different shops to have my gears adjusted. They do not shift properly and end up "clicking" instead of shifting into the correct gear. I have had 2 shops adjust the bike and the adjustment never lasts more than 3 or 4 days. My chain and all components are very clean. What's is going on? Andy If two shops gave it any attention I'll assume the chain is not too worn, nor the changer, and that it has reasonably straight chainline and that the gear tab (or adapter in your case) is straight. Which leads me to think that, absent gross problems above, your Huffy, as so many inexpensive indexed bicycles,may have spiral casing and coarse gear wires. If that's so, a sub-$20 gear cable/casing set will be an improvement. Get 5mm if at all possible rather than 4mm although either will work. Your LBS is not your enemy, usually. They're maybe busy and/or distracted but not evil. If you return to the most recent shop which serviced it, ask the guy what he recommends to improve shift reliability and particularly if a cable set would be helpful. Print this and bring it with you. I have seen the same thing happen when no cable ends were used. The outer slowly pulls through the eyelet shortening the outer and causing bad shifting. That is why these plastic end caps that anyone can press on manually are such a boon for the home mechanic. Though the latest Park cable cutter has a much higher grade cable end crimper. Plastic casing caps? Never! Damned things cause more trouble than they cure. We like plated brass casing caps. -- Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org/ Open every day since 1 April, 1971 |
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On Tuesday, August 13, 2019 at 10:24:21 AM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
Plastic casing caps? Never! Damned things cause more trouble than they cure. We like plated brass casing caps. I have never had a problem with the plastic end caps. It isn't as if they can saw through or something. But I'll take your word for it and stay with crimp on brass. |
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Can not get bike to shift gears properly
AMuzi wrote:
Plastic casing caps? Never! Damned things cause more trouble than they cure. We like plated brass casing caps. Agreed. Also, I've almost succeeded in expunging thin "brake" housing ferrules from the shop where I work. They're specified for brakes, because long lay shift cable housing strands can push their way through the thin soft metal. Problem is, Bowden cable coils can also push their way through if the housing stop isn't adequately supportive. So it's all brass "SIS" type 5mm ferrules and aluminum 4mm ferrules for me. |
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