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Old October 22nd 04, 04:04 PM
Jym Dyer
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In Japan, they have secure bike parking at many train
stations, often with an attendant. Not that a bike would
be stolen or vandalized in Japan anyway...


=v= Maybe they're headed for the Dutch model?

One of the better ideas to come along in awhile is Bikestation:
http://bikestation.org/


=v= Wow, what timing, we both posted the same thing. (I like
my new Subject: title better, though.) :^)

=v= To really work well, bikestations need to be at more
stations, and taken seriously. The Bay Area only has 3, and
only 2 of those are even on the same rail system. So for the
most part they're only an option if you live or work within
biking distance of a bikestation and within walking distance
of a rail station.

=v= Even worse, they've shut down the Palo Alto bikestation
temporarily (during renovations) immediately after deploying
an express train service that squeezes bicyclists out. So
right now, when bike parking is most needed, it's taken away.
This is horrible planning all around.
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Old October 22nd 04, 04:24 PM
Claire Petersky
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In Japan, they have secure bike parking at many train
stations, often with an attendant.


We have bike lockers at the park/rides and transit stations. The only
problem is the length of the waiting list to get one. On our local bike
commuter board I've seen a couple of triumphant posts when someone finally
gets one. You can see a picture he
http://transit.metrokc.gov/tops/bike/lockers.html

One of the better ideas to come along in awhile is Bikestation:
http://bikestation.org/


I came to our bikestation one fine morning before work when I had a minor
mechanical, but it was closed, despite the fact that it is supposed to open
at 7:00 AM. I was sorely disappointed. The wrench who works there is
awesome, though, when he shows up.

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Old October 22nd 04, 09:59 PM
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Matt O'Toole wrote:


Not that a bike would be stolen or vandalized in Japan anyway...


While mindless vandalism seems much less likely, theft is certainly
quite common.

James
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Old October 23rd 04, 02:29 AM
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In article ,
Elisa Francesca Roselli wrote:

Ian Walker wrote:

When I worked in Germany, this was precisely what a lot of my colleagues
did - a cheap old bike locked at each station. Great idea.


I have a cheap bike that I use for supermarket runs. But at the supermarket I
can
lock her in a covered bike rack. I know this sounds crazy, but I love the
bike and
the idea of her sitting out in the rain and having evil skinheads steal the
moveable bits or **** on her or damage her breaks my heart.


That is because you are crazy. It has no feelings...

It's okay to love your bikes, but love them for what they are. This
reminds me of my parents' 4x4. They bought a 4x4 pickup truck a few
years ago, so they could pull their boat and not get stuck in the snow.

They live in a suburb of Vancouver. We get about 2 days of serious,
4x4-justifying snow each year.

The best part of this story is that last year, they decided to go on a
trip that would involve a considerable portion of gravel road. They
opted to rent an SUV, largely to avoid damage to their truck.

I like my bikes, but it's okay: they are just metal, they don't know
about the skinheads.

EFR
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on the
street without getting choked up.


It was directed by Spike Jonze,

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Old October 23rd 04, 07:24 AM
Jon Senior
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Ryan Cousineau opined the following...
That is because you are crazy. It has no feelings...


No feelings? Pah. Next you'll be telling us they can't feel love!

Jon
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Old October 23rd 04, 05:07 PM
David Reuteler
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In rec.bicycles.misc Jon Senior jon_AT_restlesslemon_DOTco_DOT_uk wrote:

Ryan Cousineau opined the following...
That is because you are crazy. It has no feelings...


No feelings? Pah. Next you'll be telling us they can't feel love!


i have to say he's got you there, ryan.

please don't talk stupid.
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Old October 25th 04, 01:06 PM
Elisa Francesca Roselli
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Jym Dyer wrote:

ut in the form of "bikestations:"

http://www.bikestation.org/

This works best if you've got a bikestation at *every* train
stop, not just a handful of them, and unfortunately the U.S.
doesn't make biking *or* rail much of a priority.


Yeah well, it's against the Amercan Way, ain't it?

Futzin Commie! ;°

EFR
Ile de France

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Old October 25th 04, 03:05 PM
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On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 14:06:14 +0200, Elisa Francesca Roselli
wrote:



Jym Dyer wrote:

ut in the form of "bikestations:"

http://www.bikestation.org/

This works best if you've got a bikestation at *every* train
stop, not just a handful of them, and unfortunately the U.S.
doesn't make biking *or* rail much of a priority.


Yeah well, it's against the Amercan Way, ain't it?

Futzin Commie! ;°

EFR
Ile de France


I'd like to suggest we adopt Elisa's way excellent descriptive adjective
this week for all expletive deleted, stripe-dbass, dum-bass, frickin',
freakin' "color commentary".

My grandfather used to tell me about shooting marbles. The little round
clay ones, hard fired, beige pieces were called 'commies'. Hut-sut ralston
was the chant 'on the rillaraw', so this really takes me back.

OTOH, I'm at the 9 hours sleep in 6 days period of my Adventure Racing
simulation (see Eco-Challenge), so what do I know. I might be dreaming
this.

I'd like to take this opportunity remind the lovely and talented Elisa that
we're -still- awaiting a snapshot of her in full biking regalia, Behemoth,
tights Victorian dresses, Giant brimmed hat, netting, petticoats and
victorian hightop lace up bike shoes, and any other special gear, suitable
for Wallpaper.... sigh

-B
Fear the futzin commie ham-sandwich.


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Old October 25th 04, 03:11 PM
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:
: This works best if you've got a bikestation at *every* train
: stop, not just a handful of them, and unfortunately the U.S.
: doesn't make biking *or* rail much of a priority.
:
:
: Yeah well, it's against the Amercan Way, ain't it?
:
: Futzin Commie! ;°
:
: EFR
: Ile de France

No, it's not "against the American Way". It's just that this country grew
in a different way from Europe. The cities are structured differently,
except for the port cities. Dallas, for example, is spread out over many
miles. That made it more difficult for bicycle commuting and easier for
automobile commuting. Throw in the summer heat and strong winds into that
equation, too. If you work 25 miles from where you live, that tends to make
it difficult for bicycle commuting. Let's don't get started on blaming
entire populations or using generalities based on country, shall we?

Pat in TX


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Old October 25th 04, 06:46 PM
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Pat wrote:
:
: This works best if you've got a bikestation at *every* train
: stop, not just a handful of them, and unfortunately the U.S.
: doesn't make biking *or* rail much of a priority.
:
:
: Yeah well, it's against the Amercan Way, ain't it?
:
: Futzin Commie! ;°
:
: EFR
: Ile de France

No, it's not "against the American Way". It's just that this country grew
in a different way from Europe. The cities are structured differently,
except for the port cities. Dallas, for example, is spread out over many
miles. That made it more difficult for bicycle commuting and easier for
automobile commuting. Throw in the summer heat and strong winds into that
equation, too. If you work 25 miles from where you live, that tends to make
it difficult for bicycle commuting. Let's don't get started on blaming
entire populations or using generalities based on country, shall we?

Pat in TX


Mm, Pat? It looked to me like she was just making fun of
the stereotype...

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