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Ok, what is with clipless or clips?
Ok, newbie pedal talk. I have normal old flat pedals. My foot is free
to push or come off as it wishes. My one experience with that cage that holds my feet to the pedals is not a good one. I managed to break an ankle when I couldn't get my foot out in time to stop the bike from falling over. I finally got it out, but it would have been better if I just had fallen into the mud. Anyway, what is clip vs clipless? |
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dgk wrote: I finally got it out, but it would have been better if I just had fallen into the mud. Anyway, what is clip vs clipless? Clipless are easier to get out of than toe clips. Clipless are also much more expensive. Either will give you better performance than nothing at all. |
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do not spam wrote:
In article , dgk wrote: I finally got it out, but it would have been better if I just had fallen into the mud. Anyway, what is clip vs clipless? Clipless are easier to get out of than toe clips. Clipless are also much more expensive. Not necessarily, if you don't count the cost of the shoes (I bought SPD compatible shoes before I decided to go with clipless pedals, just for the benefit of the stiff soles. If you buy cycling shoes that are similar in cost to your regular shoes, I think it's valid to ignore shoe cost). My clipless pedals (Wellgo SPD compatible) cost $28 CDN. You could probably find a pair of pedals + clips + straps for less than this, but not by much for the same quality. -- Benjamin Lewis Seeing is deceiving. It's eating that's believing. -- James Thurber |
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On Wed, 03 Nov 2004 13:14:37 -0800, Benjamin Lewis
wrote: do not spam wrote: In article , dgk wrote: I finally got it out, but it would have been better if I just had fallen into the mud. Anyway, what is clip vs clipless? Clipless are easier to get out of than toe clips. Clipless are also much more expensive. Not necessarily, if you don't count the cost of the shoes (I bought SPD compatible shoes before I decided to go with clipless pedals, just for the benefit of the stiff soles. If you buy cycling shoes that are similar in cost to your regular shoes, I think it's valid to ignore shoe cost). My clipless pedals (Wellgo SPD compatible) cost $28 CDN. You could probably find a pair of pedals + clips + straps for less than this, but not by much for the same quality. Think about it, though. You get an inexpensive pedal and an inexpensive shoe and it might work for you, but for most newbies, I say get solid middle-of-the-line shoes, be prepared to pay 50-80 bucks. You -do- get what you pay for. You'll presumably be using these for 20-30 days per month and you want something that's durable, functional and comfortable. You go cheap on the shoe and I'd wonder if you'd not regret that. You also want them to look cool. Again, spending a lot of time in them. On the pedals, don't get the very bottom of the line, go up one and get the SPD M520. Solid performers and something that you're gonna be depending on quite heavily. Remember if you spread the cost out over many months of use, it's dirt cheap. In addition you get a performance benefit, and about the largest difference you'd notice going from plain pedals to clipless. Your pedal stye and options even expands, imo. -B |
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Badger South wrote:
On Wed, 03 Nov 2004 13:14:37 -0800, Benjamin Lewis wrote: Not necessarily, if you don't count the cost of the shoes (I bought SPD compatible shoes before I decided to go with clipless pedals, just for the benefit of the stiff soles. If you buy cycling shoes that are similar in cost to your regular shoes, I think it's valid to ignore shoe cost). My clipless pedals (Wellgo SPD compatible) cost $28 CDN. You could probably find a pair of pedals + clips + straps for less than this, but not by much for the same quality. Think about it, though. You get an inexpensive pedal and an inexpensive shoe and it might work for you, but for most newbies, I say get solid middle-of-the-line shoes, be prepared to pay 50-80 bucks. I'd recommend using shoes in approximately this price range regardless of whether you go with clipless or just regular pedals. Thus, I don't believe shoe price is a drawback to clipless pedals, although convenience may be for some people. On the pedals, don't get the very bottom of the line, go up one and get the SPD M520. Solid performers and something that you're gonna be depending on quite heavily. I have depended on my pedals quite heavily. I've used them for commuting and for randonneuring, in all sorts of weather, over thousands of kilometers. I have three pairs (for each of my bikes), and have not had a single problem with any of them. (I've only used them for road riding, so I can't say whether they make good MTB pedals or not). http://www.mec.ca/Products/product_d...=1099521388887 or http://tinyurl.com/3sxte Remember if you spread the cost out over many months of use, it's dirt cheap. In addition you get a performance benefit, and about the largest difference you'd notice going from plain pedals to clipless. Your pedal stye and options even expands, imo. What performance benefit would I get? It's true that I've never tried other clipless pedals, but that is because I can't imagine how they would improve anything for me. (Well, occasionally I don't clip in on the first try, but for me this has not been a significant issue, even where I have to stop fairly frequently). -- Benjamin Lewis Seeing is deceiving. It's eating that's believing. -- James Thurber |
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On Wed, 03 Nov 2004 13:14:37 -0800, Benjamin Lewis wrote:
My clipless pedals (Wellgo SPD compatible) cost $28 CDN I ride those, well, rebranded as the Nashbar house brand. cost 18US on sale and function just as well as the 60 dollar "entry-level" shimano variant. For that price, you can afford to put them on multiple bikes. That pedal is also sold under the Ritchey brand name. FYI, on MTB forums, the pedal gets very high ratings--no complaints really. There's tons of shoes on sale at the on-line shops for 30USD now that winter is coming. Yeah they say you shouldn't buy shoes online, but I know my size and you can always send them back. My current shoe pedal combo was $52 and rides like a dream. BTW, I wiped out on a wet bridge a week ago with the tension set very high--no problems getting free. |
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"Benjamin Lewis" wrote in message ... Badger South wrote: What performance benefit would I get? It's true that I've never tried other clipless pedals, but that is because I can't imagine how they would improve anything for me. (Well, occasionally I don't clip in on the first try, but for me this has not been a significant issue, even where I have to stop fairly frequently). There is an old English joke about trying to explain Cricket to an American, all about batsmen going out when they are in until they are out then they come in, and a batsman who is in but caught out must then come in etc etc. I'm reminded of that joke everytime the subject of clipping into clipless pedals crops up! You've got to admit, it is daft terminology! The only pedals with clips are clipless while clipped pedals have straps and no clips....... pk |
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PK wrote: You've got to admit, it is daft terminology! The only pedals with clips are clipless while clipped pedals have straps and no clips....... Clipped pedals have visible toe clips and straps. Clipless pedals have invisible clips. |
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Wed, 03 Nov 2004 14:46:28 -0800, ,
Benjamin Lewis wrote: Thus, I don't believe shoe price is a drawback to clipless pedals, although convenience may be for some people. And style, man. Don't forget _style_. -- zk |
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