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Michael Baldwin wrote:
The often prophetic Tom Kunich wrote,"Somehow No One Seems To Think" Tom, so far your subject/header phrase has been _supported_ in this threads replies! I'm a Libertarian. When it comes to political discussions, I invest little if any energy, regarding politics, in anyone over the age of 30. For the past 35 years I've been a self study of our nations framers & founders. I've yet to "discover" a flaw in their _original_ works. I've submitted to the possibility that our nation has "mis-placed" it's moral compass. I've used the word _moral_ in the sense that the framers & founders did. Likewise, I'm not ashamed to call myself an American in the "Spirit of 76". Well there, that should fan the embers! Libertarianism. Slave O' Da State pushes that agenda nicely. Some might disagree, but I basically agree with him. Over the age of 30. Do you find that those under the age of 30 are more open/reasonable in political discussions? I would have expected the age to be ~20 years lower, "framers & fathers...". There's been MUCH discussion and re-invention of the founding fathers. So much, in fact, that I don't know what anyone means when they refer to them any more. Most people have a fuzzy idea of what liberty means, and they're sure the ff's would agree with them. So one could generally replace the phrase "founding fathers" with "those guys who lived a long time ago and agreed with everything I say". In any event, you'd have to be more specific if you wanted to fan any flames. |
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On Mar 23, 7:41*am, MagillaGorilla wrote:
Tom Kunich wrote: Here's a quote: "Fascism is a government structure. The most notable characteristic of a fascist country is the separation and persecution or denial of equality to a specific segment of the population based upon superficial qualities or belief systems." Apparently those who claim to be "Liberals" want to use fascistic methodology and pretend that it is somehow correct. I don't understand this as a standalone post to initiate a thread. *This would be like posting the definition of what cereal means and then sitting back and waiting for people to try to figure out what the **** it has to do with cycling. Why does everybody in here talk by implication? *Just come out and say what you mean. Dumbass - He's confused because R. Limbaugh hates J. McCain. thanks, K. Gringioni. |
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Fred asks Mike about age and political discussions,
Over the age of 30. Do you find that those under the age of 30 are more open/reasonable in political discussions? Fred, to answer your question, those under the age of thirty are my future leaders when I'm really old and tired. That's why I invest my time in them. I'm currently working with 3 young men all under the age of 25. While their knowledge of history is rather weak, their ability to understand why things are the way they are today is refreshing. They don't enter the debate with bias. They clearly understand the meaning of the following phrase, reward of freedom is responsibility. The majority of my friends (40 - 60 years of age) are stuck in the eighties. Many willingly support the established system of government social _AND_ corporate welfare programs. "Get "it" while the gettin's good." they all say. That's what I mean when I say we as a nation have lost our moral compass. But hey. When you're dealing with a general populace that wants to blame "government" for everything and then have a "government" willing to accept that blame, what more could a career politician, bureaucrat or lobbyist hope for? Example - I think the tradegy at Waco is my fault. Had I voted for George Bush instead of Ross Perot then maybe Bill Clinton would not have become President. Same holds true for China's "most favored nation status", NAFTA, the bombing of the WTC, our embassys, and the U.S.S. Cole, Bin Laden's escape from justice, 9/11, the Iraq war, the price of oil, all my fault. Not "government". Best Regards - Mike Baldwin |
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Kurgan Gringioni wrote:
On Mar 23, 7:41 am, MagillaGorilla wrote: Tom Kunich wrote: Here's a quote: "Fascism is a government structure. The most notable characteristic of a fascist country is the separation and persecution or denial of equality to a specific segment of the population based upon superficial qualities or belief systems." Apparently those who claim to be "Liberals" want to use fascistic methodology and pretend that it is somehow correct. I don't understand this as a standalone post to initiate a thread. This would be like posting the definition of what cereal means and then sitting back and waiting for people to try to figure out what the **** it has to do with cycling. Why does everybody in here talk by implication? Just come out and say what you mean. Dumbass - He's confused because R. Limbaugh hates J. McCain. Dumbass - That's only temporary, Limbaugh will eventually come around. I've got $50 that says Kunich will remain confused. |
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Fred Fredburger wrote:
When I run, my arches succumb to plantar fascism. Thats because you're a liberal foot soldier. |
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On Sun, 23 Mar 2008 12:49:24 -0700, Fred Fredburger
wrote: wrote: On Mar 22, 7:44 pm, ronaldo_jeremiah wrote: On Mar 22, 9:37 pm, Fred Fredburger wrote: Tom Kunich wrote: Here's a quote: "Fascism is a government structure. The most notable characteristic of a fascist country is the separation and persecution or denial of equality to a specific segment of the population based upon superficial qualities or belief systems." Apparently those who claim to be "Liberals" want to use fascistic methodology and pretend that it is somehow correct. What are you talking about? FASCISM, Fred. He's talking about Fascism. It seems that lame-o book actually quoted that lame-o essay from that ****ed-up family values self-help site. So, no plagiarism, just pathetic scholarship. Fred, here's a clearer description of fascism: http://www.secularhumanism.org/libra...britt_23_2.htm Bull****. Fascism, from the word "fascia," is a system of government in which the population are governed by an authoritarian structure led by roofers. An earlier version of this system was known as "Soffitism" but the roofers decided that sounded stupid, so they changed the name. (However, the word survives in the official governmental philosophy, "sophistry.") Anyone who has tried to find a good roofer on less than six months notice realizes that we live in a Fascist state. Some people say that Fascism is Evil. These misguided people are suffering from a confusion that dates back to when Noam Chomsky misheard a Fascist talking about "eaves." Too embarrassing for a linguist to admit the error, which is why we still have these unfortunate deluded people. Nothing that six months at hard labor regrouting the Capitol Dome couldn't cure. When I run, my arches succumb to plantar fascism. That's why I no longer run and also why all triathletes should be rounded up and put into re-education camps. Triathlons ARE re-education camps. They keep having to do that until they learn better. Ron |
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On Mar 23, 3:10*pm, (Michael Baldwin) wrote:
* *Example - I think the tradegy at Waco is my fault. *Had I voted for George Bush instead of Ross Perot then maybe Bill Clinton would not have become President. *Same holds true for China's "most favored nation status", NAFTA, *the bombing of the WTC, our embassys, and the U.S.S. Cole, *Bin Laden's escape from justice, 9/11, the Iraq war, the price of oil, all my fault. *Not "government". * * Best Regards - Mike Baldwin God damn it Mike! That's un-American. Don't you know, EVERYTHING, is someone elses fault. Everyone is a victim. There's NO such thing as personal responsibility in this land. That's individualist BS get with the program. I'm sure you've offended people and will shortly be visited by the PC police, under the modified 1st amendment that guarantees the freedom to not be offended by anyone. Unless of course it's done in the name of "correctness": http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/World/20...083386-ap.html Iraq war protesters disrupt Chicago Easter mass with fake blood By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS These'll be folk heroes and probably be working for MoveOn, or Obama by next week. His Pastor, Wright, is already being painted as a victim. It was obviously the fault of those folks attempting to worship during one of their holiest days for provoking this. Bill C |
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On Mar 23, 4:27 am, (Michael Baldwin) wrote:
For the past 35 years I've been a self study of our nations framers & founders. I've yet to "discover" a flaw in their _original_ works. Um.... slavery? Allowing women to vote? The electoral college? Those are just three GLARING flaws in their _original_ works. What WAS forward-thinking was providing a means to amend the constitution. -Paul |
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On Mar 22, 5:17 pm, "Tom Kunich" cyclintom@yahoo. com wrote:
Here's a quote: "Fascism is a government structure. The most notable characteristic of a fascist country is the separation and persecution or denial of equality to a specific segment of the population based upon superficial qualities or belief systems." Apparently those who claim to be "Liberals" want to use fascistic methodology and pretend that it is somehow correct. Fascists are by definition conservatives. Your definition it pure bull****. All you need is a dictionary. -Paul |
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