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What bothers me about the Landis drug charge
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"trg" wrote: That's one hypothesis. Another is that the head of the lab doesn't consider the leak important, or doesn't know who the leaker is. All are unacceptable. That makes the head of the laboratory the de facto leaker. In future he knows there will be leaks and is complicit. -- Michael Press |
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What bothers me about the Landis drug use
Sandy wrote: Wayne a écrit : In fact once there was anonymous and unethical behavior at the lab, all results -from- that lab should be suspect. Since you seem to have both good inside knowledge, plus a brilliant command of recent events (2005, 2006) please tell us _exactly_ what was leaked by the LAB, giving the very specific information, data, or documents. My memory is so bad, I have trouble remembering what Amstrong authorized, what UCI authorized, what WADA authorized ; contrasting that, of course with your specific knowledge. I'll be happy to wait ................................ The first time Aha ! When and what was that, exactly. Help an old guy out. there was a leak of this sort ....... I'm sure you will fill in the gaps of my memory here .......... -- Sandy Verneuil-sur-Seine FR -- Ce message, issu de l'agriculture biologique, a été rédigé avec des électrons recyclés. En conséquence, il est possible que des fautes d'orthographes s'y soient malencontreusement glissées. Bad message for kids |
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What bothers me about the Landis drug charge
Sandy wrote: Wayne a écrit : In fact once there was anonymous and unethical behavior at the lab, all results -from- that lab should be suspect. Since you seem to have both good inside knowledge, plus a brilliant command of recent events (2005, 2006) please tell us _exactly_ what was leaked by the LAB, giving the very specific information, data, or documents. My memory is so bad, I have trouble remembering what Amstrong authorized, what UCI authorized, what WADA authorized ; contrasting that, of course with your specific knowledge. I'll be happy to wait ................................ The first time Aha ! When and what was that, exactly. Help an old guy out. there was a leak of this sort ....... I'm sure you will fill in the gaps of my memory here .......... -- Sandy Verneuil-sur-Seine FR -- Ce message, issu de l'agriculture biologique, a été rédigé avec des électrons recyclés. En conséquence, il est possible que des fautes d'orthographes s'y soient malencontreusement glissées. Your questions should perhaps be directed to Pat McQuaid -- http://www.iht.com/articles/2006/07/28/sports/bike.php or to cyclingnews -- http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?...ul06/jul31news -- unless the latter has changed its understanding of the background machinations at work. Wayne |
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What bothers me about the Landis drug charge
"trg" wrote in message
... Remember, the leaker didn't know it was the Tour winner that tested positive when he leaked the results. You do not know that and past experience is that they DID know whose samples were being tested. Everyone has their own level of doubt. Apparently yours is the merest suggestion that someone is guilty regardless of the sense of it all. |
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What bothers me about the Landis drug charge
"Sandy" wrote in message
... Since you seem to have both good inside knowledge, plus a brilliant command of recent events (2005, 2006) please tell us _exactly_ what was leaked by the LAB, giving the very specific information, data, or documents. My memory is so bad, I have trouble remembering what Amstrong authorized, what UCI authorized, what WADA authorized ; contrasting that, of course with your specific knowledge. I'll be happy to wait ................................ Was it JUST my imagination or didn't Equipe publish the actual testing sheet from the lab in the Armstrong case? |
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What bothers me about the Landis drug charge
"Wayne" wrote in message
ups.com... Sandy wrote: Wayne a écrit : In fact once there was anonymous and unethical behavior at the lab, all results -from- that lab should be suspect. Since you seem to have both good inside knowledge, plus a brilliant command of recent events (2005, 2006) please tell us _exactly_ what was leaked by the LAB, giving the very specific information, data, or documents. My memory is so bad, I have trouble remembering what Amstrong authorized, what UCI authorized, what WADA authorized ; contrasting that, of course with your specific knowledge. I'll be happy to wait ................................ The first time Aha ! When and what was that, exactly. Help an old guy out. there was a leak of this sort ....... I'm sure you will fill in the gaps of my memory here .......... -- Sandy Verneuil-sur-Seine FR -- Ce message, issu de l'agriculture biologique, a été rédigé avec des électrons recyclés. En conséquence, il est possible que des fautes d'orthographes s'y soient malencontreusement glissées. Your questions should perhaps be directed to Pat McQuaid -- http://www.iht.com/articles/2006/07/28/sports/bike.php or to cyclingnews -- http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?...ul06/jul31news -- unless the latter has changed its understanding of the background machinations at work. Here's what bothers ME. I believe that Olaf Ludwig was somewhat aware of Rudy Pevenage's inclinations to mislead Jan but really couldn't afford to be too stiff necked for fear of losing his best chance at winning a Tour. So now he is being punished for something he had little control over. Can anyone suggest how he could have handled this without simply having Jan walk out by giving him an ultimatum of getting rid of Rudy Pevenage? |
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What bothers me about the Landis drug charge
"Tom Kunich" cyclintom@yahoo. com wrote in message k.net... "trg" wrote in message ... First. The point that a leak does not change the facts of the case is as valid for Landis as for Watergate. You don't like the analogy, fine, pick one you like better. People who leaked Watergate could AT LEAST be considered as doing something right in their own minds. Is it possible that you are Gordon Liddy's twin? www.kenpapai.com/cycling/rbr/Tomk.JPG http://chickenhed.us/images/liddythong_1.jpg |
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What bothers me about the Landis drug charge
On Tue, 8 Aug 2006 00:29:02 +0200, "trg"
wrote: Oh, now you can read the mind of the leaker? When did you learn French ? You mean they think in French too? Damn, I just figured they thought in English and spoke French to be different. Sandy, could you confirm this to be true? I think I need a drink. Curtis L. Russell Odenton, MD (USA) Just someone on two wheels... |
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What bothers me about the Landis drug charge
trg wrote:
Oh, now you can read the mind of the leaker? When did you learn French ? Curtis L. Russell wrote: You mean they think in French too? Damn, I just figured they thought in English and spoke French to be different. Sandy, could you confirm this to be true? I think I need a drink. Then you'll be able to think in Incoherent. |
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What bothers me about the Landis drug charge
Curtis L. Russell a écrit :
On Tue, 8 Aug 2006 00:29:02 +0200, "trg" wrote: Oh, now you can read the mind of the leaker? When did you learn French ? You mean they think in French too? Damn, I just figured they thought in English and spoke French to be different. Sandy, could you confirm this to be true? I think I need a drink. Curtis L. Russell Odenton, MD (USA) Just someone on two wheels... Reading some postings here, I feel a certain sympathy with Henry Higgins (My Fair Lady, not Pygmalion), who complained : "Why can't the English teach their children how to speak !?" But you're American, so typical rules of engagement don't apply. Most commonly these days, I think in French in the morning, in English midday, and Russian until I cook dinner, which turns me back into a frog par excellence. You wouldn't curse me with thinking in English during a foray in the cuisine !! Sunday pub brunch, and yorkshire pudding, OK, but not magret de canard au poivre. "English" as a language is spoken in the minority by the English. And amongst them, only a small minority offer the tones and snoot of OxCam leather. My Yorkshire friends find so much more in common with the nearby Scots. Indian English is probably the most common pronunciation set, although the Chinese variety is gaining. Must be difficult to know that you no longer have either control or influence over a language denominated your national one. Unlike French fries, which are Belgian, and much tastier there. Mayonnaise, not ketchup. With Leffe or Trappe or the less distributed brands. And not deprived of their lofty greasiness, as with cider vinegar, salted to cause thromboses. After dinner, depends on the company I am keeping for that day. I am willing to learn new languages on the proper inspiration, even if pidgin. But I do math in English, usually. I dream in color and non-lingual. Silent era or just turned off the sound - I don't know. At least I have the good sense never to sing in any language. My voice has been declared a délit public, and I could go to jail if I tried. Even in church, they let me pass without comment. Gone are the days in Latin, I fear. And with that, I will join you in non-sobriety, having a gentle Bordeaux before me that wants to sacrifice itself for my pleasure. Incidentally, should you really have a hankering for a good wine, I recommend a buying group get together for this one - Châteauneuf-du-Pape, domaine Durieu, variety "Lucie Avril", of ANY year. This is sharing a secret, but of course, you'll tell no one. -- Sandy Verneuil-sur-Seine FR -- -Si les autres parties du monde ont des singes ; l'Europe a des Français. Cela se compense. -Arthur Schopenhauer |
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