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On Feb 27, 5:02 pm, Mike Vandeman wrote:
If you truly believe this, why haven't you moved back to Olduvai Gorge? You obviously haven't read my paper. No matter where humans are, we change too rapidly for anything but bacteria and viruses to adapt to (successfully) us. That has nothing to do with what I asked you. If you believe that man in an exotic species everywhere but where he first appeared, then you should return to where you are not an exotic species. Those paleo-indians must have been some terrific hunters to bring to extinction 135 species in maybe 400 years using only pointed sticks and clovis pointed spears. They we near Port Townsend, WA was a mammoth with a spear point in its elbow, proving the point. That's one incident. Since the extinctions began long before man set foot on North America, real scientists do not agree on the degree to which over hunting caused the extinctions. |
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On 28 Feb 2007 19:03:11 -0800, "Olebiker" wrote:
On Feb 27, 5:02 pm, Mike Vandeman wrote: If you truly believe this, why haven't you moved back to Olduvai Gorge? You obviously haven't read my paper. No matter where humans are, we change too rapidly for anything but bacteria and viruses to adapt to (successfully) us. That has nothing to do with what I asked you. It has EVERYTHING to do with it. Learn to read. Do your homework. If you believe that man in an exotic species everywhere but where he first appeared, then you should return to where you are not an exotic species. Those paleo-indians must have been some terrific hunters to bring to extinction 135 species in maybe 400 years using only pointed sticks and clovis pointed spears. They we near Port Townsend, WA was a mammoth with a spear point in its elbow, proving the point. That's one incident. Since the extinctions began long before man set foot on North America, real scientists do not agree on the degree to which over hunting caused the extinctions. It proves that human-caused extinction is possible. === I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8 years fighting auto dependence and road construction.) Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of! http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande |
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On Feb 28, 10:29 pm, Mike Vandeman wrote:
You obviously haven't read my paper. No matter where humans are, we change too rapidly for anything but bacteria and viruses to adapt to (successfully) us. That has nothing to do with what I asked you. It has EVERYTHING to do with it. Learn to read. Do your homework. Why are you not willing to defend your position, but insist on making personal attacks? Defend your position in this forum with scientific fact, not opinion. They we near Port Townsend, WA was a mammoth with a spear point in its elbow, proving the point. That's one incident. Since the extinctions began long before man set foot on North America, real scientists do not agree on the degree to which over hunting caused the extinctions. It proves that human-caused extinction is possible. One incident proves nothing. |
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On Mar 1, 8:12 am, "Olebiker" wrote:
snip You are atempting rational discourse with an irrational being. PH |
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On Mar 1, 9:41 am, "pmh" wrote:
On Mar 1, 8:12 am, "Olebiker" wrote: snip You are atempting rational discourse with an irrational being. I know. I'm kind of like Don Quixote that way. Mike and I go back at least ten years. |
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On 1 Mar 2007 05:12:17 -0800, "Olebiker" wrote:
On Feb 28, 10:29 pm, Mike Vandeman wrote: You obviously haven't read my paper. No matter where humans are, we change too rapidly for anything but bacteria and viruses to adapt to (successfully) us. That has nothing to do with what I asked you. It has EVERYTHING to do with it. Learn to read. Do your homework. Why are you not willing to defend your position, but insist on making personal attacks? Defend your position in this forum with scientific fact, not opinion. I did. You just refuse to READ it: http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande/scb4. Idiot. They we near Port Townsend, WA was a mammoth with a spear point in its elbow, proving the point. That's one incident. Since the extinctions began long before man set foot on North America, real scientists do not agree on the degree to which over hunting caused the extinctions. It proves that human-caused extinction is possible. One incident proves nothing. BS. It proves that human-caused extinction is possible. Didn't you ever study mathematics? A single counter-example is enough to disprove a proposition. === I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8 years fighting auto dependence and road construction.) Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of! http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande |
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On 1 Mar 2007 07:06:37 -0800, "Olebiker" wrote:
On Mar 1, 9:41 am, "pmh" wrote: On Mar 1, 8:12 am, "Olebiker" wrote: snip You are atempting rational discourse with an irrational being. I know. I'm kind of like Don Quixote that way. Mike and I go back at least ten years. Proving that you are incapable of learning anything. === I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8 years fighting auto dependence and road construction.) Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of! http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande |
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On Mar 1, 10:52 am, Mike Vandeman wrote:
You are atempting rational discourse with an irrational being. I know. I'm kind of like Don Quixote that way. Mike and I go back at least ten years. Proving that you are incapable of learning anything. Mike, repeated personal attacks do nothing to support your arguments. Facts do. Now please provide facts, not opinion, to support your claims. |
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On Mar 1, 10:51 am, Mike Vandeman wrote:
Why are you not willing to defend your position, but insist on making personal attacks? Defend your position in this forum with scientific fact, not opinion. I did. You just refuse to READ it:http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande/scb4. Idiot. We are having a discussion on Usenet, not your homepage. If you have something on your homepage that defends your position and consists of fact, not opinion, please post it here. Pretend you are defending your dissertation and the readers here are the committee. One incident proves nothing. BS. It proves that human-caused extinction is possible. Didn't you ever study mathematics? A single counter-example is enough to disprove a proposition. I did not claim that human-caused extinction is not possible and we're talking biology, not mathmatics. |
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On Mar 1, 11:22 am, "Olebiker" wrote:
Well, Mkey did say there were the remains of a single mammoth with a single with a single worked stone point. Absolute factual material leading one to postulate (claim?!) that mammoths knew how to work chert into weapons. PH |
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