Latest sentencing outrage...

Back on the roads of Airstrip One, the latest sentencing outrage...

You might recall the case of Hull cyclist Michael Little who died
after being run down by 'hit and run' killer driver Tony Redfern. At
the time Redfern, driving a BMW, was racing his cousin, Lee Barker who
was driving an RS Turbo. Redfern crashed when he lost control whilst
doing over 70 MPH in a 30MPH zone. Redfern also had no licence,
insurance etc. and alreay had convictions for a 'hit and run' and
other driving offences.

Well, Redfern got a mediocre 6 year sentence for causing death by
dangerous driving (the maximum possible being 10). Now that has been
reduced on appeal to just 4 1/2...

Yup, the UK courts seem to have no will to protect vulnerable road
users from even the most anti-social drivers.

From Hull Daily Mail Monday December 1 2003.

Drivers six-year jail term reduced.

Hull. An unlicenced and speeding driver who was jailed after an
accident in which a cyclist died has had his prison term reduced. The
Court of Appeal heard Tony Redfern of North Road, Hull. has shown "an
appalling, selfish and reckless disregard for the safety of others."

Redfern pleaded guilty at Hull Crown Court in June to causing the
death of Michael Little by dangerous driving. He was jailed for six
years and banned from driving for the same period. But the 23 year
old's barrister, Mark Bury, successfully argued the sentence was
"manifestly excessive" and the court reduced it to four-and-a-half
years. Redfern, who has never passed a driving test, has a previous
conviction for failing to stop at the scene of an accident.

Howard wrote:
Back on the roads of Airstrip One, the latest sentencing outrage...

You might recall the case of Hull cyclist Michael Little who died
after being run down by 'hit and run' killer driver Tony Redfern. At
the time Redfern, driving a BMW, was racing his cousin, Lee Barker who
was driving an RS Turbo. Redfern crashed when he lost control whilst
snip
"an
appalling, selfish and reckless disregard for the safety of others."

Redfern pleaded guilty at Hull Crown Court in June to causing the
death of Michael Little by dangerous driving. He was jailed for six
years and banned from driving for the same period. But the 23 year
old's barrister, Mark Bury, successfully argued the sentence was
"manifestly excessive" and the court reduced it to four-and-a-half
years. Redfern, who has never passed a driving test, has a previous
conviction for failing to stop at the scene of an accident.

I am not in the least bit suprised.

"Howard" wrote in message
om...
Back on the roads of Airstrip One, the latest sentencing outrage...

You might recall the case of Hull cyclist Michael Little who died
after being run down by 'hit and run' killer driver Tony Redfern. At
the time Redfern, driving a BMW, was racing his cousin, Lee Barker who
was driving an RS Turbo. Redfern crashed when he lost control whilst
doing over 70 MPH in a 30MPH zone. Redfern also had no licence,
insurance etc. and alreay had convictions for a 'hit and run' and
other driving offences.

Well, Redfern got a mediocre 6 year sentence for causing death by
dangerous driving (the maximum possible being 10). Now that has been
reduced on appeal to just 4 1/2...

Yup, the UK courts seem to have no will to protect vulnerable road
users from even the most anti-social drivers.

From Hull Daily Mail Monday December 1 2003.

Drivers six-year jail term reduced.

Hull. An unlicenced and speeding driver who was jailed after an
accident in which a cyclist died has had his prison term reduced. The
Court of Appeal heard Tony Redfern of North Road, Hull. has shown "an
appalling, selfish and reckless disregard for the safety of others."

Redfern pleaded guilty at Hull Crown Court in June to causing the
death of Michael Little by dangerous driving. He was jailed for six
years and banned from driving for the same period. But the 23 year
old's barrister, Mark Bury, successfully argued the sentence was
"manifestly excessive" and the court reduced it to four-and-a-half
years. Redfern, who has never passed a driving test, has a previous
conviction for failing to stop at the scene of an accident.

what a lovely man
http://www.hullbar.demon.co.uk/mbury.html

Howard wrote:

Redfern pleaded guilty at Hull Crown Court in June to causing the
death of Michael Little by dangerous driving. He was jailed for six
years and banned from driving for the same period. But the 23 year
old's barrister, Mark Bury, successfully argued the sentence was
"manifestly excessive" and the court reduced it to four-and-a-half
years. Redfern, who has never passed a driving test, has a previous
conviction for failing to stop at the scene of an accident.

Of course. How can it possibly be right to jail someone with previous
convictions for that long when all they were doing was a bit over double
the limit and they hardly killed anyone? It was an /accident/, after all.

--
Guy
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jamie g wrote:

what a lovely man

Scary thing is, in a system where someone with previous convictions who
kills a cyclist through negligent driving gets a small fine and is allowed
to keep their licence desite hitting the points limit, you probably could
argue that this sentence is excessive.

So, he'll be back on the roads in under three years is my guess.

I propose that his goolies are cut off.

--
Guy
===
WARNING: May contain traces of irony. Contents liable to settle after
posting.
http://chapmancentral.demon.co.uk

"Howard" wrote in message
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Redfern pleaded guilty at Hull Crown Court in June to causing the
death of Michael Little by dangerous driving. He was jailed for six
years and banned from driving for the same period. But the 23 year
old's barrister, Mark Bury, successfully argued the sentence was
"manifestly excessive" and the court reduced it to four-and-a-half
years.

"Manifestly excessive"! SplutterSpluter Manifestly excessive for an "an
appalling, selfish and reckless disregard for the safety of others."
resulting in someone's death? *******! He should have been charged and
banged up for manslaughter. 4½ years is not enough! So much for the Court
of Appeal. Seems magistrates had more sense for once.

Rich

Richard Goodman wrote:

"Manifestly excessive"! SplutterSpluter Manifestly excessive for an "an
appalling, selfish and reckless disregard for the safety of others."
resulting in someone's death? *******! He should have been charged and
banged up for manslaughter. 4½ years is not enough! So much for the Court
of Appeal. Seems magistrates had more sense for once.


Deaths too good for him. Bloody cycling on the road. Its not as if he pays
road tax or anything. Should be on the bloody cyclepath. Ruined the race it
did what with having to stop and fill in all those forms. Was on for a
personal best race time an' all.

Tony ;-^)

Howard posted ...

Redfern pleaded guilty at Hull Crown Court in June to causing the
death of Michael Little by dangerous driving. He was jailed for six
years and banned from driving for the same period. But the 23 year
old's barrister, Mark Bury, successfully argued the sentence was
"manifestly excessive" and the court reduced it to four-and-a-half
years. Redfern, who has never passed a driving test, has a previous
conviction for failing to stop at the scene of an accident.

Jeez, 'manifestly excessive' ... isn't that what manslaughter (murder?)
ought to be ? Oh sorry, the deceased was only a cyclist ..

You know, it really makes me ashamed to admit to being a 'petrol-head' and
loving all things power-driven .. the ******* (and his barrister) really
needs his, to borrow a phrase, goolies cut-off, slowly and with something
blunter than a blunt thing.

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Digweed
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"Paul - xxx" wrote in message
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... the ******* (and his barrister) really
needs his, to borrow a phrase, goolies cut-off, slowly and with something
blunter than a blunt thing.


That might satisfy some barbarian need for revenge but it doesn't keep him
off the road, does it?
___
Michael MacClancy

"ScrumpyJoe" wrote in message
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On Mon, 01 Dec 2003 20:00:50 +0000, Michael MacClancy wrote:

"Paul - xxx" wrote in message
...
.. the ******* (and his barrister) really
needs his, to borrow a phrase, goolies cut-off, slowly and with
something
blunter than a blunt thing.


That might satisfy some barbarian need for revenge but it doesn't keep
him
off the road, does it?
___
Michael MacClancy

With his knackers cut off it would make him less aggressive and
competitive...


He might develop a taste for someone else's goolies to replenish his
testosterone.
___
Michael MacClancy