How does Tiso Bike stay in business ??

http://www.xxcycle.com/php/boutique/...T.php?key=4467

If you're a company that sells a derailleur that costs $593, does that
mean you have the best derailleur in the world, or merely, the
stupidest customers on the planet ??

- Don Gillies
San Diego, CA

On 18 Dec 2006 20:03:56 -0800, (Donald Gillies)
wrote:

http://www.xxcycle.com/php/boutique/...T.php?key=4467

If you're a company that sells a derailleur that costs $593, does that
mean you have the best derailleur in the world, or merely, the
stupidest customers on the planet ??

- Don Gillies
San Diego, CA

Dear Don,

Well, you could have other distributors selling your derailleur for
considerably less, say 239 EU (around $313):

http://www4.hibike.de/main.php?sessi...ID=&groupID=10

And you could emphasize the claim that you're selling the lightest
derailleur on earth:

http://www.les3sports.com/html/index...categorie2=943

And your customers could just be people who like to spend enormous
amounts of time and money building the lightest bikes possible, a
hobby that probably gives them just as much pleasure as restoring old
cars and polishing umpteen coats of paint on the underside of the
trunk lid.

Your customers would be arguably no more foolish than someone who just
issued his Christmas demand for Carmignola's new Vivaldi CD, just to
add several new concertos to a list of over 400.

But neither the company nor the customers are spending their time
calling other people stupid. That's a harmless pastime often seen on
newsgroups like RBT that seems to make some people happy.

Cheers,

Carl Fogel

On 18 Dec 2006 20:03:56 -0800, (Donald Gillies) may
have said:

http://www.xxcycle.com/php/boutique/...T.php?key=4467

If you're a company that sells a derailleur that costs $593, does that
mean you have the best derailleur in the world, or merely, the
stupidest customers on the planet ??

A merchant in the business of catering to this trade would *never*
refer to his clientele in such a coarse and undignified manner.

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On 2006-12-19, wrote:
On 18 Dec 2006 20:03:56 -0800, (Donald Gillies)
wrote:

http://www.xxcycle.com/php/boutique/...T.php?key=4467

If you're a company that sells a derailleur that costs $593, does that
mean you have the best derailleur in the world, or merely, the
stupidest customers on the planet ??

- Don Gillies
San Diego, CA

Dear Don,

Well, you could have other distributors selling your derailleur for
considerably less, say 239 EU (around $313):

http://www4.hibike.de/main.php?sessi...ID=&groupID=10

And you could emphasize the claim that you're selling the lightest
derailleur on earth:

http://www.les3sports.com/html/index...categorie2=943
[snip]

A Campag Record rear derailleur is 157 GBP, or 233 Euros from
totalcycling.com and weighs about 5 or 6g more, so the Tiso seems to
competitively priced.

"Werehatrack" wrote in message
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On 18 Dec 2006 20:03:56 -0800, (Donald Gillies) may
have said:

http://www.xxcycle.com/php/boutique/...T.php?key=4467

If you're a company that sells a derailleur that costs $593, does that
mean you have the best derailleur in the world, or merely, the
stupidest customers on the planet ??

A merchant in the business of catering to this trade would *never*
refer to his clientele in such a coarse and undignified manner.

--

It probably falls somewhere between:

"It is unwise to pay too much, but it is unwise to pay too little.

When you pay too much, you loose a little money; that is all.

When you pay too little you sometimes lose everything.

Because the thing you bought was incapable of doing the thing you bought
it to do.

The common law of business balance prohibits paying a little and getting a
lot. It cannot be done.

If you deal with the lowest bidder, it is well to add something for the
risk you run and if you do that, you will have enough to pay for something
better."

John Rushkin 1819-1900

and....

"A fool and his money are soon parted." Thomas Tusser 1524-1580

I seem to remember someone in the US was making a derailleur that looked
something like an old Simplex Prestige and asking a small fortune for it.

Chas.

It probably falls somewhere between:

"It is unwise to pay too much, but it is unwise to pay too little.

When you pay too much, you loose a little money; that is all.

When you pay too little you sometimes lose everything.

Because the thing you bought was incapable of doing the thing you bought
it to do.

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Wal-Mart has a last push Christmas sale right now, and they are selling
full sized Mountain Bikes for $39. Does this fall into your too little
idea?

On 18 Dec 2006 20:03:56 -0800, (Donald Gillies)
wrote:

http://www.xxcycle.com/php/boutique/...T.php?key=4467

If you're a company that sells a derailleur that costs $593,

That's the price for a set of two derailleurs - arrière et avant.
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Donald Gillies wrote:
http://www.xxcycle.com/php/boutique/...T.php?key=4467

If you're a company that sells a derailleur that costs $593, does that
mean you have the best derailleur in the world, or merely, the
stupidest customers on the planet ??

- Don Gillies
San Diego, CA

Neither and/or both. I am asked lots if something or another is 'worth
it'. I don't know what is 'worth' what to another. What mystyies me is
something that is bought and turns out to not work well or as
advertised, but is bought all the time anyway...marketing and peer
pressure are powerful.

For the RD, if it works well and is light, not surprised somebody buys
it. people buy titanium chains all the time too, and kry-4-me-seriums...

Donald Gillies wrote:
http://www.xxcycle.com/php/boutique/...T.php?key=4467

If you're a company that sells a derailleur that costs $593, does that
mean you have the best derailleur in the world, or merely, the
stupidest customers on the planet ??


In a market that seems to support $350+ saddles, $60 bar tape, etc.,
this just seems par for the very wacky course.

On Tue, 19 Dec 2006 07:14:00 -0500, John Forrest Tomlinson wrote:

On 18 Dec 2006 20:03:56 -0800, (Donald Gillies)
wrote:

http://www.xxcycle.com/php/boutique/...T.php?key=4467

If you're a company that sells a derailleur that costs $593,

That's the price for a set of two derailleurs - arrière et avant.

So, that makes $600 seem like a bargain?

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David L. Johnson

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