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Big Basin via the Back Door (11/7/93)
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Big Basin via the Back Door (11/7/93)
Steven Scharf writes:
It appears that the trail from Chalk Mountain to Cascade Ranch may soon be opening up. If I were alone, I might explore this interesting route to the coast. It's been done by riders with whom I have ridden Whitehous Canyon. The Krebs map doesn't show a connection between Chalk Mountain and Cascade Ranch. Is this a hiking trail only, or does it not exist at all? What's the deal with the gap in Whitehouse Canyon Road? Is this one of those roads that the residents have expropriated for their exclusive use, like Bear Gulch? It isn't settled. I have ridden through there several times, both up and down and gotten a mild lecture once. In contrast, I haven't heard a word form anyone or even cars passing me on Last Chance Road. Jobst Brandt |
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Steven Scharf writes:
It appears that the trail from Chalk Mountain to Cascade Ranch may soon be opening up. If I were alone, I might explore this interesting route to the coast. It's been done by riders with whom I have ridden Whitehouse Canyon. The Krebs map doesn't show a connection between Chalk Mountain and Cascade Ranch. Is this a hiking trail only, or does it not exist at all? What's the deal with the gap in Whitehouse Canyon Road? Is this one of those roads that the residents have expropriated for their exclusive use, like Bear Gulch? It isn't settled. I have ridden through there several times, both up and down and gotten a mild lecture once. In contrast, I haven't heard a word form anyone or even cars passing me on Last Chance Road. Thanks Jobst. The map at http://www.virtualparks.org/parks/cascade-qtvr-map.html shows Whitehouse as going all the way through, no gaps. Where does Last Chance Road end (toward the SW). The Krebs map shows it ending just at a rectangle of private land within Big Basin. Last Chance road is private but then what does that mean. Many people use it and the most rabid of them seem to have left. It was always the squatter types who gave the most gruff years ago, those who had the least to say about who uses the road. How do these conflicts about road ownership go unsettled for so long? There's one disputed road in the south bay that the owners defend with guns. That would be Loma Chiquita that recently hit the news because they injured one of their own who was motorcycling where he should be, on the road. Summit road from Loma Prieta Ave to Mt. Madonna had such a cloud over it until a delivery truck that had business out there was turned back. He took it to court and since then none of those gates are closed even though the rude keep out signs are still in place. They are county roads and buying a second hand grader for some road work does not make them private. That's what those folks discovered. I'm not happy about the MROSD gates on Loma Alma road along the ridge between Mt. Umunhum and Mt. Loma Prieta, but bicyclists can pass undisturbed. Last time I got some jive from Mr. McQueen Jr. at Mt. Umunhum, I let him know that my taxes built this road for the US Air Force and that my taxes pay for MROSD (Mid Peninsula Open Space District) that owns the land and that his claim to the road is so much hot air. His father had painted huge white billboards on the road with stenciled red text that the road was private. This BS is gradually fading these days. The reason MROSD has the gates closed is that the Air Force buildings are still standing and create a fire hazard and a liability hazard, they being not fenced off and open to vandalism. MROSD employs a guard who lives there and keeps people out. We have ridden past the base and past MR. McQueeen's antenna farm on Mt. Thayer, to descend Soda Springs Road. This requires a short ride through a plot of private property that was somehow also allowed to put gates across the road. Jobst Brandt |
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Steven Scharf writes:
That would be Loma Chiquita that recently hit the news because they injured one of their own who was motorcycling where he should be, on the road. I see that the three people that were charged with this crime have plead not-guilty. Summit road from Loma Prieta Ave to Mt. Madonna had such a cloud over it until a delivery truck that had business out there was turned back. He took it to court and since then none of those gates are closed even though the rude keep out signs are still in place. They are county roads and buying a second hand grader for some road work does not make them private. That's what those folks discovered. What I don't understand is why the sheriff doesn't lay down the law on these people that seem to believe that they can gate up a county road and try to keep people out. In these days of "we hate taxes", funds for road maintenance, police, and a slew of other things that we formerly had are scarce. If no one contests it in court, the sheriff is glad to not send a patrol up into these hills and the road crews are spared the work. When I first rode up there we met sheriff patrols now and then and the roads got graded every spring... and people didn't live up there either. I'm not happy about the MROSD gates on Loma Alma road along the ridge between Mt. Umunhum and Mt. Loma Prieta, but bicyclists can pass undisturbed. Last time I got some jive from Mr. McQueen Jr. at Mt. Umunhum, I let him know that my taxes built this road for the US Air Force and that my taxes pay for MROSD (Mid Peninsula Open Space District) that owns the land and that his claim to the road is so much hot air. I would have not launched into something like that. Ignoring them is usually sufficient. The alternative is to turn around and "go back the way you came", the routine that these folks give you. With a self appointed road crew my friend had to do exactly that, I being out of reach up the road for these guys to physically block my passage but he had to turn back. Rick Estrada, the owner of the junk collection and house trailer at the JCT of Loma Alma and Mt. Umunhum road at one time lived there, right on the road. He confronted us with his hand on his holstered side arm. That was one with which we didn't argue and went back the way we came, except that we turned down Cathermola Road to Austrian Creek and on to Aldercroft. Bear Gulch is another infuriating situation, especially the section west of 35. As I understand it, the eastern section, between Skyline and 84 was "abandoned" by the county, but the western section was simply gated off by the wealthy landowners that have ranches there. The eastern part was "il" legally turned into a private road in Woodside, while the part west of HWY35, just past Neil Young's driveway had an "End County Road" sign that we ignored. I haven't been there in years. His property includes the Star Hill Ranch and the land between. Jobst Brandt |
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