Imitating a Police man

This could bring in some interesting claims against the Police force.
Cyclist dressed up like this and mows down a pedestrian and clears off
sharpish, what is anyone going to remember? Police cyclist.

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/londo...s-8568155.html

On 19/04/2013 16:23, Mrcheerful wrote:

This could bring in some interesting claims against the Police force.
Cyclist dressed up like this and mows down a pedestrian and clears off
sharpish, what is anyone going to remember? Police cyclist.

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/londo...s-8568155.html

Impersonating a police officer is a specific free-standing offence.

Arguing that there was some feature of the disguise which marked it out
as a fake would not be a defence against the charge (would it, Lee?).

The test is whether the whole appearance and demeanour is calculated to
deceive. And the get-up in that picture is clearly meant to do exactly that.

On Apr 19, 4:40*pm, JNugent wrote:
On 19/04/2013 16:23, Mrcheerful wrote:

This could bring in some interesting claims against the Police force.
Cyclist dressed up like this and mows down a pedestrian and clears off
sharpish, what is anyone going to remember? *Police cyclist.

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/londo...hvis-polite-fo...

Impersonating a police officer is a specific free-standing offence.

Arguing that there was some feature of the disguise which marked it out
as a fake would not be a defence against the charge (would it, Lee?).

The test is whether the whole appearance and demeanour is calculated to
deceive. And the get-up in that picture is clearly meant to do exactly that.

"Equisafety pressed ahead with the design after being assured by Met
commander Bob Broadhurst that it was not illegal."

On 19/04/2013 21:43, Squashme wrote:

On Apr 19, 4:40 pm, JNugent wrote:
On 19/04/2013 16:23, Mrcheerful wrote:

This could bring in some interesting claims against the Police force.
Cyclist dressed up like this and mows down a pedestrian and clears off
sharpish, what is anyone going to remember? Police cyclist.

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/londo...hvis-polite-fo...

Impersonating a police officer is a specific free-standing offence.
Arguing that there was some feature of the disguise which marked it out
as a fake would not be a defence against the charge (would it, Lee?).
The test is whether the whole appearance and demeanour is calculated to
deceive. And the get-up in that picture is clearly meant to do exactly that.

"Equisafety pressed ahead with the design after being assured by Met
commander Bob Broadhurst that it was not illegal."

It isn't illegal to own or wear a fake police uniform.

It is illegal to impersonate a police officer. And that is what that
uniform, used out on the road, is designed to facilitate.

On Fri, 19 Apr 2013 13:43:17 -0700 (PDT), Squashme wrote:

On Apr 19, 4:40*pm, JNugent wrote:
On 19/04/2013 16:23, Mrcheerful wrote:

This could bring in some interesting claims against the Police force.
Cyclist dressed up like this and mows down a pedestrian and clears off
sharpish, what is anyone going to remember? *Police cyclist.

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/londo...hvis-polite-fo...

Impersonating a police officer is a specific free-standing offence.

Arguing that there was some feature of the disguise which marked it out
as a fake would not be a defence against the charge (would it, Lee?).

The test is whether the whole appearance and demeanour is calculated to
deceive. And the get-up in that picture is clearly meant to do exactly that.

"Equisafety pressed ahead with the design after being assured by Met
commander Bob Broadhurst that it was not illegal."


perhaps he needs some advice himself:

"any item of clothing that has been manufactured to match these
characteristics of police uniform is at risk of contravening
legislation, namely Section 90 Police Act 1996. The ultimate decision
about the legitimacy of any individual product is yet to be defined
conclusively by any court, but the legal standard as enacted is an
objective measure of whether the clothing worn by an individual, and/or
their horse, would give the impression that that rider is a police
officer when they are not."

ACPO

On 20/04/2013 11:23, Judith wrote:
On Fri, 19 Apr 2013 13:43:17 -0700 (PDT), Squashme wrote:

On Apr 19, 4:40 pm, JNugent wrote:
On 19/04/2013 16:23, Mrcheerful wrote:

This could bring in some interesting claims against the Police force.
Cyclist dressed up like this and mows down a pedestrian and clears off
sharpish, what is anyone going to remember? Police cyclist.

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/londo...hvis-polite-fo...

Impersonating a police officer is a specific free-standing offence.

Arguing that there was some feature of the disguise which marked it out
as a fake would not be a defence against the charge (would it, Lee?).

The test is whether the whole appearance and demeanour is calculated to
deceive. And the get-up in that picture is clearly meant to do exactly that.

"Equisafety pressed ahead with the design after being assured by Met
commander Bob Broadhurst that it was not illegal."


perhaps he needs some advice himself:

"any item of clothing that has been manufactured to match these
characteristics of police uniform is at risk of contravening
legislation, namely Section 90 Police Act 1996. The ultimate decision
about the legitimacy of any individual product is yet to be defined
conclusively by any court, but the legal standard as enacted is an
objective measure of whether the clothing worn by an individual, and/or
their horse, would give the impression that that rider is a police
officer when they are not."

ACPO

Surely we need the advice of our resident expert Barista Lee?

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Dave - Cyclists VOR. "Many people barely recognise the bicycle as a
legitimate mode of transport; it is either a toy for children or a
vehicle fit only for the poor and/or strange," Dave Horton, of Lancaster
University, wrote in an interim assessment of the Understanding Walking
and Cycling study. "For them, cycling is a bit embarrassing, they fail
to see its purpose, and have no interest in integrating it into their
lives, certainly on a regular basis."

On 19/04/2013 16:40, JNugent wrote:
On 19/04/2013 16:23, Mrcheerful wrote:

This could bring in some interesting claims against the Police force.
Cyclist dressed up like this and mows down a pedestrian and clears off
sharpish, what is anyone going to remember? Police cyclist.

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/londo...s-8568155.html


Impersonating a police officer is a specific free-standing offence.

Most cyclists impersonate human beings.


--
Dave - Cyclists VOR. "Many people barely recognise the bicycle as a
legitimate mode of transport; it is either a toy for children or a
vehicle fit only for the poor and/or strange," Dave Horton, of Lancaster
University, wrote in an interim assessment of the Understanding Walking
and Cycling study. "For them, cycling is a bit embarrassing, they fail
to see its purpose, and have no interest in integrating it into their
lives, certainly on a regular basis."

On Apr 19, 4:40*pm, JNugent wrote:
On 19/04/2013 16:23, Mrcheerful wrote:

This could bring in some interesting claims against the Police force.
Cyclist dressed up like this and mows down a pedestrian and clears off
sharpish, what is anyone going to remember? *Police cyclist.

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/londo...hvis-polite-fo...

Impersonating a police officer is a specific free-standing offence.

as is being a police officer.


Arguing that there was some feature of the disguise which marked it out
as a fake would not be a defence against the charge (would it, Lee?).

its a costume it means nothing without a warrant whoever be inside
it..


The test is whether the whole appearance and demeanour is calculated to
deceive. And the get-up in that picture is clearly meant to do exactly that.

What particularly about an officer's garb do you find deceptive?
Bright green is offensive and meant to be so. The chequerbands show
that he be a collection agent. His badge shows what force he belongs
and shall match his ID and warrant along with his displayed number.
He shall identify himself verbally when questioned. Where's your
effin problem? If he doesn't say, ask! Ask three times and if he
fails to respond, deck the lying scumbag.

On Sat, 20 Apr 2013 20:00:32 +0100, Dave - Cyclists VOR wrote:

On 19/04/2013 16:40, JNugent wrote:
On 19/04/2013 16:23, Mrcheerful wrote:

This could bring in some interesting claims against the Police force.
Cyclist dressed up like this and mows down a pedestrian and clears off
sharpish, what is anyone going to remember? Police cyclist.

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/londo...ighvis-polite-
force-to-be-seen-by-motorists-8568155.html


Impersonating a police officer is a specific free-standing offence.

Most cyclists impersonate human beings.

From your definition of a human being I do not even try.

On 21/04/2013 02:40, thirty-six wrote:

On Apr 19, 4:40 pm, JNugent wrote:
On 19/04/2013 16:23, Mrcheerful wrote:

This could bring in some interesting claims against the Police force.
Cyclist dressed up like this and mows down a pedestrian and clears off
sharpish, what is anyone going to remember? Police cyclist.

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/londo...hvis-polite-fo...

Impersonating a police officer is a specific free-standing offence.

as is being a police officer.

???

Arguing that there was some feature of the disguise which marked it out
as a fake would not be a defence against the charge (would it, Lee?).

its a costume it means nothing without a warrant whoever be inside
it..

Really?

The test is whether the whole appearance and demeanour is calculated to
deceive. And the get-up in that picture is clearly meant to do exactly that.

What particularly about an officer's garb do you find deceptive?
Bright green is offensive and meant to be so. The chequerbands show
that he be a collection agent. His badge shows what force he belongs
and shall match his ID and warrant along with his displayed number.
He shall identify himself verbally when questioned. Where's your
effin problem? If he doesn't say, ask! Ask three times and if he
fails to respond, deck the lying scumbag.

You, perhaps, need to grow up a little.