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Old August 24th 17, 02:50 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Wed, 23 Aug 2017 19:06:57 -0500, AMuzi wrote:

On 8/23/2017 6:21 PM, Doug Landau wrote:

Oh man! I am a pretty hardcore MTB trail and gnarly road rider


What makes you say that? Some examples, please, of what makes your riding 'gnarly'


Maybe following behind Joerg for a few hundred feet of
offroad climb before being dropped? That's pretty gnarly.


http://dictionary.cambridge.org
mainly US slang used to describe something extreme, especially
something that is very dangerous...

More dangerious than snake bite?
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Old August 24th 17, 02:32 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Wednesday, August 23, 2017 at 6:50:45 PM UTC-7, John B. wrote:
On Wed, 23 Aug 2017 19:06:57 -0500, AMuzi wrote:

On 8/23/2017 6:21 PM, Doug Landau wrote:

Oh man! I am a pretty hardcore MTB trail and gnarly road rider

What makes you say that? Some examples, please, of what makes your riding 'gnarly'


Maybe following behind Joerg for a few hundred feet of
offroad climb before being dropped? That's pretty gnarly.


http://dictionary.cambridge.org
mainly US slang used to describe something extreme, especially
something that is very dangerous...

More dangerious than snake bite?
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Cheers,

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You seem to have snakes on the mind. Maybe you need viagra.
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Old August 24th 17, 03:16 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On 2017-08-23 16:21, Doug Landau wrote:

Oh man! I am a pretty hardcore MTB trail and gnarly road rider


What makes you say that?



For example, my ride yesterday.


Some examples, please, of what makes your riding 'gnarly'


One of my regular routes:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y38JzV-ueXI

If you mess up and go over the edge on the right you can die. Which has
happened there.

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Old August 24th 17, 05:40 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Wednesday, August 23, 2017 at 5:21:32 PM UTC-6, Doug Landau wrote:
Oh man! I am a pretty hardcore MTB trail and gnarly road rider


What makes you say that? Some examples, please, of what makes your riding 'gnarly'


http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=gnarly

depends on where you are from there ...

if you're after a gnarly ride itsa different trip than going over a 'gnarly' section wit the intent of traveling from A-B

for me at 70 n occasionally gnarly prior, gnarly means constant correction n balance maintaining forward speeds at moderate speed levels...with an index for injury in failure to maintain as rock vs grass berms ....trees....cliffs...Saturday night vehicle traffic
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Old August 24th 17, 08:51 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On 2017-08-24 09:40, wrote:
On Wednesday, August 23, 2017 at 5:21:32 PM UTC-6, Doug Landau
wrote:
Oh man! I am a pretty hardcore MTB trail and gnarly road rider


What makes you say that? Some examples, please, of what makes your
riding 'gnarly'


http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=gnarly


That definition isn't correct. Among mountain bikers at least out here
gnarly simply means what you describe below. A ride that is totally not
smooth, shakes bike and rider and one has to have reasonable skills or
will crash.


depends on where you are from there ...

if you're after a gnarly ride itsa different trip than going over a
'gnarly' section wit the intent of traveling from A-B

for me at 70 n occasionally gnarly prior, gnarly means constant
correction n balance maintaining forward speeds at moderate speed
levels...with an index for injury in failure to maintain as rock vs
grass berms ....trees....cliffs...Saturday night vehicle traffic


That pretty much sums up my ride yesterday. Nothing super spectacular
but fun. The only iffy part right now is that the BB is on its last legs
so I have to be prepared to hoof it out of there in case it seizes up.
That wouldn't be the end of the world either.

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Old August 24th 17, 08:53 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On 24/08/2017 3:51 PM, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-08-24 09:40, wrote:
On Wednesday, August 23, 2017 at 5:21:32 PM UTC-6, Doug Landau
wrote:
Oh man! I am a pretty hardcore MTB trail and gnarly road rider

What makes you say that?* Some examples, please, of what makes your
riding 'gnarly'


http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=gnarly


That definition isn't correct. Among mountain bikers at least out here
gnarly simply means what you describe below. A ride that is totally not
smooth, shakes bike and rider and one has to have reasonable skills or
will crash.


depends on where you are from there ...

if you're after a gnarly ride itsa different trip than going over a
'gnarly' section wit the intent of traveling from A-B

for me at 70 n occasionally gnarly prior, gnarly means constant
correction n balance maintaining forward speeds at moderate speed
levels...with an index for injury in failure to maintain as rock vs
grass berms ....trees....cliffs...Saturday night vehicle traffic


That pretty much sums up my ride yesterday. Nothing super spectacular
but fun. The only iffy part right now is that the BB is on its last legs
so I have to be prepared to hoof it out of there in case it seizes up.
That wouldn't be the end of the world either.


Why wouldn't you just replace the BB before it seizes up?
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Old August 24th 17, 08:59 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On 2017-08-24 12:53, Duane wrote:
On 24/08/2017 3:51 PM, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-08-24 09:40, wrote:
On Wednesday, August 23, 2017 at 5:21:32 PM UTC-6, Doug Landau
wrote:
Oh man! I am a pretty hardcore MTB trail and gnarly road rider

What makes you say that? Some examples, please, of what makes your
riding 'gnarly'

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=gnarly


That definition isn't correct. Among mountain bikers at least out here
gnarly simply means what you describe below. A ride that is totally
not smooth, shakes bike and rider and one has to have reasonable
skills or will crash.


depends on where you are from there ...

if you're after a gnarly ride itsa different trip than going over a
'gnarly' section wit the intent of traveling from A-B

for me at 70 n occasionally gnarly prior, gnarly means constant
correction n balance maintaining forward speeds at moderate speed
levels...with an index for injury in failure to maintain as rock vs
grass berms ....trees....cliffs...Saturday night vehicle traffic


That pretty much sums up my ride yesterday. Nothing super spectacular
but fun. The only iffy part right now is that the BB is on its last
legs so I have to be prepared to hoof it out of there in case it
seizes up. That wouldn't be the end of the world either.


Why wouldn't you just replace the BB before it seizes up?



I'll have to first take it out to find out exactly what size it is. Then
put it back in until the new one gets here (will replace with the
hopefully better BB-ES51). The MTB has to do two more trips, less than
100mi total and it's not (yet) so bad that I'd be concerned. After that
I will remove the BB, look and order one.

I did the same with the road bike. There is was easier. On the old
adjustable kind you could rotate the cranks 180 degrees and get a
(partial) 2nd life out of the BB. Now it has a new UN-55.

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Old August 24th 17, 09:09 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On 24/08/2017 3:59 PM, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-08-24 12:53, Duane wrote:
On 24/08/2017 3:51 PM, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-08-24 09:40, wrote:
On Wednesday, August 23, 2017 at 5:21:32 PM UTC-6, Doug Landau
wrote:
Oh man! I am a pretty hardcore MTB trail and gnarly road rider

What makes you say that?* Some examples, please, of what makes your
riding 'gnarly'

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=gnarly


That definition isn't correct. Among mountain bikers at least out here
gnarly simply means what you describe below. A ride that is totally
not smooth, shakes bike and rider and one has to have reasonable
skills or will crash.


depends on where you are from there ...

if you're after a gnarly ride itsa different trip than going over a
'gnarly' section wit the intent of traveling from A-B

for me at 70 n occasionally gnarly prior, gnarly means constant
correction n balance maintaining forward speeds at moderate speed
levels...with an index for injury in failure to maintain as rock vs
grass berms ....trees....cliffs...Saturday night vehicle traffic


That pretty much sums up my ride yesterday. Nothing super spectacular
but fun. The only iffy part right now is that the BB is on its last
legs so I have to be prepared to hoof it out of there in case it
seizes up. That wouldn't be the end of the world either.


Why wouldn't you just replace the BB before it seizes up?



I'll have to first take it out to find out exactly what size it is. Then
put it back in until the new one gets here (will replace with the
hopefully better BB-ES51). The MTB has to do two more trips, less than
100mi total and it's not (yet) so bad that I'd be concerned. After that
I will remove the BB, look and order one.

I did the same with the road bike. There is was easier. On the old
adjustable kind you could rotate the cranks 180 degrees and get a
(partial) 2nd life out of the BB. Now it has a new UN-55.


I don't get it. If I need a part for my bike, I call the LBS and ask
him if it's in stock. If not, he'll order it and I get it in 2 weeks or
less. Granted, I don't live out there where you do.

Even if you want to mail order it, why do you have to take the BB out to
find out which one it is? You can't just find the model and get the
replacement part list and order it from that? I would guess that if you
had the model of the bike, Andrew Muzi could probably tell you which BB
you needed.
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Old August 24th 17, 09:33 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On 2017-08-24 13:09, Duane wrote:
On 24/08/2017 3:59 PM, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-08-24 12:53, Duane wrote:
On 24/08/2017 3:51 PM, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-08-24 09:40, wrote:
On Wednesday, August 23, 2017 at 5:21:32 PM UTC-6, Doug Landau
wrote:
Oh man! I am a pretty hardcore MTB trail and gnarly road rider

What makes you say that? Some examples, please, of what makes your
riding 'gnarly'

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=gnarly


That definition isn't correct. Among mountain bikers at least out here
gnarly simply means what you describe below. A ride that is totally
not smooth, shakes bike and rider and one has to have reasonable
skills or will crash.


depends on where you are from there ...

if you're after a gnarly ride itsa different trip than going over a
'gnarly' section wit the intent of traveling from A-B

for me at 70 n occasionally gnarly prior, gnarly means constant
correction n balance maintaining forward speeds at moderate speed
levels...with an index for injury in failure to maintain as rock vs
grass berms ....trees....cliffs...Saturday night vehicle traffic


That pretty much sums up my ride yesterday. Nothing super spectacular
but fun. The only iffy part right now is that the BB is on its last
legs so I have to be prepared to hoof it out of there in case it
seizes up. That wouldn't be the end of the world either.


Why wouldn't you just replace the BB before it seizes up?



I'll have to first take it out to find out exactly what size it is.
Then put it back in until the new one gets here (will replace with the
hopefully better BB-ES51). The MTB has to do two more trips, less than
100mi total and it's not (yet) so bad that I'd be concerned. After
that I will remove the BB, look and order one.

I did the same with the road bike. There is was easier. On the old
adjustable kind you could rotate the cranks 180 degrees and get a
(partial) 2nd life out of the BB. Now it has a new UN-55.


I don't get it. If I need a part for my bike, I call the LBS and ask
him if it's in stock. If not, he'll order it and I get it in 2 weeks or
less. Granted, I don't live out there where you do.


The LBS can't do that unless you tell him the exact part number you
want. Unfortunately the spec sheets of MTBs usually do not provide such
detail, mine only states "Octalink BB-ES25". There are several versions
of that and it must fit.

I could take my calipers, measure, order and hope for the best.
Personally I'd rather look and be sure.


Even if you want to mail order it, why do you have to take the BB out to
find out which one it is?



There are several versions and sizes of it.


... You can't just find the model and get the
replacement part list and order it from that?



No.


... I would guess that if you
had the model of the bike, Andrew Muzi could probably tell you which BB
you needed.



2013 Fuji Outland 29 1.5D.

Again, I'd rather look. I found some things on the MTB that I replaced
where not quite what the spec sheet says. Like with a lot of other gear.
For example, when reworking a wine fridge into a fermentation chamber
for beer I found that the official schematic of the electrical stuff in
there was wrong. First I had to take it apart, then find out what I
need. Now the other way around.

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Old August 24th 17, 09:43 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On 8/24/2017 3:09 PM, Duane wrote:
On 24/08/2017 3:59 PM, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-08-24 12:53, Duane wrote:
On 24/08/2017 3:51 PM, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-08-24 09:40, wrote:
On Wednesday, August 23, 2017 at 5:21:32 PM UTC-6, Doug
Landau
wrote:
Oh man! I am a pretty hardcore MTB trail and gnarly
road rider

What makes you say that? Some examples, please, of
what makes your
riding 'gnarly'

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=gnarly


That definition isn't correct. Among mountain bikers at
least out here
gnarly simply means what you describe below. A ride that
is totally
not smooth, shakes bike and rider and one has to have
reasonable
skills or will crash.


depends on where you are from there ...

if you're after a gnarly ride itsa different trip than
going over a
'gnarly' section wit the intent of traveling from A-B

for me at 70 n occasionally gnarly prior, gnarly means
constant
correction n balance maintaining forward speeds at
moderate speed
levels...with an index for injury in failure to
maintain as rock vs
grass berms ....trees....cliffs...Saturday night
vehicle traffic


That pretty much sums up my ride yesterday. Nothing
super spectacular
but fun. The only iffy part right now is that the BB is
on its last
legs so I have to be prepared to hoof it out of there in
case it
seizes up. That wouldn't be the end of the world either.


Why wouldn't you just replace the BB before it seizes up?



I'll have to first take it out to find out exactly what
size it is. Then put it back in until the new one gets
here (will replace with the hopefully better BB-ES51). The
MTB has to do two more trips, less than 100mi total and
it's not (yet) so bad that I'd be concerned. After that I
will remove the BB, look and order one.

I did the same with the road bike. There is was easier. On
the old adjustable kind you could rotate the cranks 180
degrees and get a (partial) 2nd life out of the BB. Now it
has a new UN-55.


I don't get it. If I need a part for my bike, I call the
LBS and ask him if it's in stock. If not, he'll order it and
I get it in 2 weeks or less. Granted, I don't live out
there where you do.

Even if you want to mail order it, why do you have to take
the BB out to find out which one it is? You can't just find
the model and get the replacement part list and order it
from that? I would guess that if you had the model of the
bike, Andrew Muzi could probably tell you which BB you needed.


Yes, but even simpler just look at the crank model number on
the inside of the crank arm, measure BB width (68 or 73mm
for an MTB). That's definitive without removing anything.

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