"stabilizing" a stratus?

"Mark Leuck" wrote in message
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"Edward Dolan" wrote in message
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"Mark Leuck" wrote in message
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Wal-Mart may sell bikes with perfect trail but I doubt many will last
100
miles or more, again which specific brand and model bike are you
complaining
about? I should think this would be a simple question to answer. I own
2
and
have ridden maybe 10 and have yet to find a complaint with how they
steer,
comfort yes but never steer

I am ****ed off before I even start because you have not put a period at
the
end of your sentence above. Is this your idea of how to alienate people
and
make enemies?

It oddly only seems to bother you so therefore the correct word would be
"person" instead of "people"

It bothers all educated people. Only fellow morons like yourself who never
got beyond the 8th grade are not bothered by it.

I have several clunker upright bikes that are even worse than what
Wal-Mart
is now selling and they will last a life time if not abused and a
certain
amount of minimum maintenance is performed at regular intervals. The
main
problem with almost all bikes that the kids get regardless of original
quality is that they abuse them and do not take care of them.

Lets see now, you apparently possess 12 ill-handling recumbents and now
several junk DF bikes, odd how such a genius could collect garbage like
that

None of it is garbage. Only elitist fools and snobs like yourself who have
more money than brains think you have got to pay thousands of dollars to get
a bike that is going to work just fine. But that is probably your way with
everything in life. You get what you pay for - right?

As to my recumbents, I would say that the Vision set up SWB has too much
twitchiness (not enough trail). Even set up LWB with OSS it is still too
twitchy. I have two other SWB's and the Kowal also has too much
twitchiness. The Turner SWB is just the opposite. It seems to have too
much
trail. I have given up on SWB altogether.

My RANS V2 has too much tiller to suit me as does the RANS Tailwind. My
Tailwind (a very early version) is also too twitchy. At slow speeds too
much
tiller and too much twitchyness is a pain in the you know what. My
Infinity
is also too twitchy. The Tour Easy has got it right. If the trail and
the
tiller are not right, the bike will not handle as well as it should. All
uprights solved these questions over a hundred years ago. It is not
possible
to get a bad upright with respect to these very elementary design
factors.

Don't read off of web pages, I'm referring to bikes you really own but
I'll
bite anyway

Did you not see these things (being the genius) before you purchased them?

Trail and tiller do not have to be perfect for me as I am now telling you
for the third time. Other things matter more to me when it comes to a
recumbent - like comfort and fun.

This is not to say that all recumbents are nor rideable even if trail
and
tiller are not perfect. I can ride them all and have ridden very many of
them (except for the latest high racers and low racers). All recumbents
should be designed with optimum trail and optimum tiller for the vast
majority of cyclists just like uprights are. Then they would all handle
pretty much the same regardless of their individual configurations
(frame
designs). Or so it seems to me.

Welp with 12 ill-handling recumbents so far I doubt you could be satisfied
with anything at this point

The perfect recumbent has yet to be made. It may be that there is something
fundamentally wrong with the recumbent design itself which can never be
gotten around. Ideally, a recumbent ought to handle just as well as an
upright, but minus all the pain that goes with an upright. However, this may
be rocket science after all and recumbent designers and builders do not fall
into that category of intelligence, at least not the last time I looked.

--
Ed Dolan - Minnesota