Simple Green and Chains - Velonews article

VeloNews did a tech article on it:

http://www.velonews.com/tech/report/...es/9216.0.html

-Nate

Llatikcuf wrote:
VeloNews did a tech article on it:

http://www.velonews.com/tech/report/...es/9216.0.html

-Nate

Humph. One more reason to avoid cleaning my chain with Simple Green-
it's water based. I can't see how it would be good to wash the chain
off with water, then try to get all the water out with oil. Why not use
an oil-based solvent to begin with? (I use kerosene, by the way.)

Jeff

I've always wondered the same thing, I use Diesel or Mobil One cut with 4
parts Paint Thinner.


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Llatikcuf wrote:
VeloNews did a tech article on it:

http://www.velonews.com/tech/report/...es/9216.0.html

-Nate

Humph. One more reason to avoid cleaning my chain with Simple Green-
it's water based. I can't see how it would be good to wash the chain
off with water, then try to get all the water out with oil. Why not use
an oil-based solvent to begin with? (I use kerosene, by the way.)

Jeff

"Wannagofast" wrote in message
om...
I've always wondered the same thing, I use Diesel or Mobil One cut with 4
parts Paint Thinner.


"JeffWills" wrote in message
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Llatikcuf wrote:
VeloNews did a tech article on it:

http://www.velonews.com/tech/report/...es/9216.0.html

-Nate

Humph. One more reason to avoid cleaning my chain with Simple Green-
it's water based. I can't see how it would be good to wash the chain
off with water, then try to get all the water out with oil. Why not use
an oil-based solvent to begin with? (I use kerosene, by the way.)

Jeff




Hi,

I'm new to the group; been lurking for a while - thought I'd toss in my
2-cents on this one. I recently bought a small ultrasonic cleaner (for
jewelry). Its intended for water, but I use mineral spirits in it to clean
bicycle parts. It does an excellent job, especially on chains and
freewheels.

For lubrication, I soak the chain in liquid parafin - something I learned 25
years ago. Maybe not the best method, but the chain is quiet and doesn't
seem to collect much grime.


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"Llatikcuf" wrote in message
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VeloNews did a tech article on it:

http://www.velonews.com/tech/report/...es/9216.0.html

-Nate


Also applies to our friends with now-ugly Dura-Ace derailleurs that were
soaked overnight in Simple Green.

--
Phil, Squid-in-Training

"Wannagofast" wrote in message
om...
I've always wondered the same thing, I use Diesel or Mobil One cut with 4
parts Paint Thinner.

That gives you a 50% chance of actually using a lubricant.

Cal

Llatikcuf wrote:
VeloNews did a tech article on it:

http://www.velonews.com/tech/report/...es/9216.0.html

-Nate

COULD IT BE THE CHAIN?

A couple of months ago I bought a new Sram chain and soaked it paint
thinner for about 10 minutes to take off the factory lube because I use
White Lightning wax and you need to remove all lube before applying the
wax. Anyway, after putting on the chain and taking my bike for a ride,
the drive train sounded really bad. I discovered there were 3 missing
rollers (all next to each other) so I replaced them with the extra
chain links I still had and haven't had a problem since(about 400
miles.
I'm not sure if the rollers were missing from the beginning, broke off
after installing the chain and riding, or if the paint thinner caused
it. I know there have been other post about Sram chain rollers being
pitted.

John

Phil, Squid-in-Training wrote:
"Llatikcuf" wrote in message
oups.com...
VeloNews did a tech article on it:

http://www.velonews.com/tech/report/...es/9216.0.html

-Nate


Also applies to our friends with now-ugly Dura-Ace derailleurs that were
soaked overnight in Simple Green.

I did that with an XT, left a green line accross the middle and one
side was darker than the other.

-Nate

Anybody that leaves parts to soak in a water based degreaser overnight
deserves whatever damage gets done.

I use Simple green on the chain when it's warm enough outside to dry
the chain completely before relubing.

In the winter, it's a matter of using Power Lube (or similar), and then
wiping the thing dry. About once every other moth is all that's needed.

Get some fenders for winter folks, and keep at least a modicum of slop
off your chains--you won't have to deal with them that oftern.

After reading several posts in this thread I got out a spray can of Simple
Green that I have and actually read the directions!
What it actually says regarding "soak" time is: "Let foam stand on surface
for several minutes." "Leave on longer for heavier soiled surfaces."
It then goes on to recommend scrubbing, rinsing with water and drying.
From those directions I would conclude that 'longer' would mean more minutes
of soak time, not hours, days, weeks or months!
Perhaps the directions are different on different forms of Simple Green
containers (I just have the spray can) but if those directions are at all
consistent from one type of container to another I wonder where people would
get the idea that soaking chains for days, weeks, and longer, was a good
idea?
Chuck