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Tube cement, which brand is best?
I've got a bunch of patch kits that contain yellow "Propatch" cement
tubes. On Sunday I had to use a kit, as usual for another rider. We found the hole, sanded the tube, opened the li'l cement tube ... phuffff .... only air was left inside. It was inside an extra plastic wrap and all, didn't help. So we had to use my spare tube. Do you guys know a brand that is better and where a bunch of these little tubes could be bought sans patches? Not so much for me but for other riders because many reported similar problems. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ |
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Tube cement, which brand is best?
On 11/29/18 6:50 PM, Joerg wrote:
I've got a bunch of patch kits that contain yellow "Propatch" cement tubes. On Sunday I had to use a kit, as usual for another rider. We found the hole, sanded the tube, opened the li'l cement tube ... phuffff ... only air was left inside. It was inside an extra plastic wrap and all, didn't help. So we had to use my spare tube. Do you guys know a brand that is better and where a bunch of these little tubes could be bought sans patches? Not so much for me but for other riders because many reported similar problems. Rema were always the patch of choice. However, any vulcanizing fluid should do it. |
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Tube cement, which brand is best?
On Thu, 29 Nov 2018 20:28:05 +0100,
Tosspot wrote: On 11/29/18 6:50 PM, Joerg wrote: I've got a bunch of patch kits that contain yellow "Propatch" cement tubes. On Sunday I had to use a kit, as usual for another rider. We found the hole, sanded the tube, opened the li'l cement tube ... phuffff ... only air was left inside. It was inside an extra plastic wrap and all, didn't help. So we had to use my spare tube. Do you guys know a brand that is better and where a bunch of these little tubes could be bought sans patches? Not so much for me but for other riders because many reported similar problems. Rema were always the patch of choice. However, any vulcanizing fluid should do it. I've had really good luck with the Rema tubes. I don't recall ever opening a previously unopened tube to find it dry. Some of them have probably sat in saddle packs for multiple years, too. -- Ted Heise West Lafayette, IN, USA |
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Tube cement, which brand is best?
On 2018-11-29 11:57, Theodore Heise wrote:
On Thu, 29 Nov 2018 20:28:05 +0100, Tosspot wrote: On 11/29/18 6:50 PM, Joerg wrote: I've got a bunch of patch kits that contain yellow "Propatch" cement tubes. On Sunday I had to use a kit, as usual for another rider. We found the hole, sanded the tube, opened the li'l cement tube ... phuffff ... only air was left inside. It was inside an extra plastic wrap and all, didn't help. So we had to use my spare tube. Do you guys know a brand that is better and where a bunch of these little tubes could be bought sans patches? Not so much for me but for other riders because many reported similar problems. Rema were always the patch of choice. However, any vulcanizing fluid should do it. I've had really good luck with the Rema tubes. I don't recall ever opening a previously unopened tube to find it dry. Some of them have probably sat in saddle packs for multiple years, too. Ok, thanks, guys, then I'll try Rema cement next time. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ |
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Tube cement, which brand is best?
On Thursday, November 29, 2018 at 9:50:52 AM UTC-8, Joerg wrote:
I've got a bunch of patch kits that contain yellow "Propatch" cement tubes. On Sunday I had to use a kit, as usual for another rider. We found the hole, sanded the tube, opened the li'l cement tube ... phuffff ... only air was left inside. It was inside an extra plastic wrap and all, didn't help. So we had to use my spare tube. Do you guys know a brand that is better and where a bunch of these little tubes could be bought sans patches? Not so much for me but for other riders because many reported similar problems. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ I have found that new unopened tubes last forever something that a lot of Rema did not. Or at least none have failed in four years of storage |
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Tube cement, which brand is best?
On Thu, 29 Nov 2018 09:50:59 -0800, Joerg
wrote: Do you guys know a brand that is better and where a bunch of these little tubes could be bought sans patches? Not so much for me but for other riders because many reported similar problems. The 8oz metal can of Rema "Tip Top Vulcanizing Fluid" in my shop seems to last forever. I think it's been there for about 5 years. It's been opened and used many times, yet shows no indication of hardening or evaporation. The only thing I do that's tricky is wrap some Teflon tape around the can threads to make it easier to open. https://www.universalcycles.com/shopping/product_details.php?id=52678 However, carrying such a large can on a ride is probably impractical. When the same discussion appeared in r.b.t a few years ago, I decided that quantity might be a suitable substitute for quality. I bought 30x tubes of cheap Chinese glue at a cost of about $0.50 per tube. https://www.ebay.com/itm/153039763013 I crudely tested the peel strength of the glue when it arrived. Rema was better, but the cheap glue seemed good enough if I compressed the glue joint with some kind of clamp (two pieces of wood and my vise grip pliers). The original plan was to rotate the glue tubes every 6 months or so, but that never happened. So, I don't know if regular rotation is a suitable solution. Cheap enough to try by carrying a 2nd tube. -- Jeff Liebermann 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558 |
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Tube cement, which brand is best?
On Thursday, November 29, 2018 at 9:22:33 PM UTC-8, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Thu, 29 Nov 2018 09:50:59 -0800, Joerg wrote: Do you guys know a brand that is better and where a bunch of these little tubes could be bought sans patches? Not so much for me but for other riders because many reported similar problems. The 8oz metal can of Rema "Tip Top Vulcanizing Fluid" in my shop seems to last forever. I think it's been there for about 5 years. It's been opened and used many times, yet shows no indication of hardening or evaporation. The only thing I do that's tricky is wrap some Teflon tape around the can threads to make it easier to open. https://www.universalcycles.com/shopping/product_details.php?id=52678 However, carrying such a large can on a ride is probably impractical. When the same discussion appeared in r.b.t a few years ago, I decided that quantity might be a suitable substitute for quality. I bought 30x tubes of cheap Chinese glue at a cost of about $0.50 per tube. https://www.ebay.com/itm/153039763013 I crudely tested the peel strength of the glue when it arrived. Rema was better, but the cheap glue seemed good enough if I compressed the glue joint with some kind of clamp (two pieces of wood and my vise grip pliers). The original plan was to rotate the glue tubes every 6 months or so, but that never happened. So, I don't know if regular rotation is a suitable solution. Cheap enough to try by carrying a 2nd tube. -- Jeff Liebermann 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558 That's the stuff used in bike shops and I've never seen them drying up either. I suspect that the contents are different. |
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Tube cement, which brand is best?
On Thursday, November 29, 2018 at 12:50:52 PM UTC-5, Joerg wrote:
I've got a bunch of patch kits that contain yellow "Propatch" cement tubes. On Sunday I had to use a kit, as usual for another rider. We found the hole, sanded the tube, opened the li'l cement tube ... phuffff ... only air was left inside. It was inside an extra plastic wrap and all, didn't help. So we had to use my spare tube. Do you guys know a brand that is better and where a bunch of these little tubes could be bought sans patches? Not so much for me but for other riders because many reported similar problems. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ The cement and patch are designed to work with one another. There are chemicals on the patch that are activated by chemicals in the cement. Different manufacturers use different activators. You will get best results, if you don't mix manufacturers. I've found the Rema Tip-Top patches with their tubes of cold vulcanizing fluid to work extremely well. |
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Tube cement, which brand is best?
On 2018-11-29 15:10, wrote:
On Thursday, November 29, 2018 at 9:50:52 AM UTC-8, Joerg wrote: I've got a bunch of patch kits that contain yellow "Propatch" cement tubes. On Sunday I had to use a kit, as usual for another rider. We found the hole, sanded the tube, opened the li'l cement tube ... phuffff ... only air was left inside. It was inside an extra plastic wrap and all, didn't help. So we had to use my spare tube. Do you guys know a brand that is better and where a bunch of these little tubes could be bought sans patches? Not so much for me but for other riders because many reported similar problems. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ I have found that new unopened tubes last forever something that a lot of Rema did not. Or at least none have failed in four years of storage Maybe this Propatch tube was just a dud then. It had the same puffy appearance and feel to it as usual but when puntured ... phhht ... could be compressed to full flat without anything coming out. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ |
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