Road Bicycle Helmets Offer Inadequate Protection for Mountain Biking

On Mar 3, 10:53*pm, Mike Vandeman wrote:
On Mar 3, 9:27*pm, Bob Berger wrote:





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Mike Vandeman says...

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Len McGoogle says...

On Mar 2, 4:25=3DA0pm, Mike Vandeman wrote:
On Mar 2, 10:39=3DA0am, Shraga wrote:

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Wilderness and Environmental Medicine, 6,385-390 (1995)

ORIGINAL ARTICLE

Do conventional bicycle helmets provide
adequate protection in mountain biking?

http://www.giro.com/us_en/products/c...htmlhttp://ww=
...
...

... etc.

Any sport so extreme that it requires special protective equipment is
pretty stupid! Kind of like the people who practice it!

Like the helmets equestrians wear? I agree.

How about the helmets rock and mountain climbers wear?

Or the helmets (used to be called "tin hats") worn by many folks who hike=
in the
old growth evergreen forests of the Pacific Northwest. (See the forestry =
term
"widowmaker")?

BS. I hiked there many times and never saw anyone wearing anything
like that, liar.

No, not a liar, just a whole lot more time in the area than you.

You just lied AGAIN, because you haven't the foggiest idea how much
time I spent there. Mountain bikers think that their merely saying
something makes it true.

I still don't have an answer: Why can't mountain bikers EVER tell the
truth?

I guess no mountain bikers have the guts to answer that question, so
I'll answer it for them: If they ever told the truth about their
sport, no one would allow them to do it! DUH!

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Mike Vandeman says...

On Mar 3, 9:27=A0pm, Bob Berger wrote:
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Mike Vandeman says...







On Mar 3, 1:35=3DA0pm, Bob Berger wrote:
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Len McGoogle says...

On Mar 2, 4:25=3D3DA0pm, Mike Vandeman wrot=
e:
On Mar 2, 10:39=3D3DA0am, Shraga wrote:

On Feb 26, 6:26=3D3DA0pm, Mike Vandeman =
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Wilderness and Environmental Medicine, 6,385-390 (1995)

ORIGINAL ARTICLE

Do conventional bicycle helmets provide
adequate protection in mountain biking?

http://www.giro.com/us_en/products/c...rt.htmlhttp:/=
/ww=3D
...
...

... etc.

Any sport so extreme that it requires special protective equipment =
is
pretty stupid! Kind of like the people who practice it!

Like the helmets equestrians wear? I agree.

How about the helmets rock and mountain climbers wear?

Or the helmets (used to be called "tin hats") worn by many folks who h=
ike=3D
in the
old growth evergreen forests of the Pacific Northwest. (See the forest=
ry =3D
term
"widowmaker")?

BS. I hiked there many times and never saw anyone wearing anything
like that, liar.

No, not a liar, just a whole lot more time in the area than you.

You just lied AGAIN, because you haven't the foggiest idea how much
time I spent there.

True; but since I live here, it's probable I've spent more time here than you.
By the way, what are your favorite hiking areas here?

Mountain bikers think that their merely saying something makes it true.

Non-sequitur.

I still don't have an answer: Why can't mountain bikers EVER tell the
truth?

I'm not a mountain biker. The only "mountain bikes" I own I use only in
Yellowstone's upper geyser basin along the (mostly paved) bike path between Old
Faithful and Morning Glory Pool.

On Mar 3, 10:04*pm, Mike Vandeman wrote:
On Mar 3, 5:57*pm, Len McGoogle wrote:









On Mar 3, 11:38*am, Mike Vandeman wrote:

On Mar 3, 7:02*am, Len McGoogle wrote:

On Mar 2, 4:25*pm, Mike Vandeman wrote:

On Mar 2, 10:39*am, Shraga wrote:

On Feb 26, 6:26*pm, Mike Vandeman wrote:

Wilderness and Environmental Medicine, 6,385-390 (1995)

ORIGINAL ARTICLE

Do conventional bicycle helmets provide
adequate protection in mountain biking?

http://www.giro.com/us_en/products/c....htmlhttp://ww......

... etc.

Any sport so extreme that it requires special protective equipment is
pretty stupid! Kind of like the people who practice it!

Like the helmets equestrians wear? I agree.

No, you don't, liar, or you wouldn't be mountain biking. Why can't
mountain bikers EVER tell the truth about their selfish, destructive,
disgusting sport?

Thanks for agreeing that equestrians are stupid and looking out for
their safety. They wear helmets because they are trying to control a
big dumb animal and could become injured.

No, they wear helmets because mountain bikers are stupider than
horses, and frequently endanger wildlife and other trail users.
Mountain bikers are their own worst enemies (evolution in action)!

Thank you! Thank you!

I appreciate you joining me and bringing to light how dangerous riding
horses is. Your endorsement that "Any sport so extreme that it
requires special protective equipment is pretty stupid! Kind of like
the people who practice it!" is just the statement we need to save the
lives of equestrians.

I agree, it is selfish to force an animal to carry and be controlled
by some fat human. Together we can free horses from this dangerous,
destructive pastime.

On Mar 4, 11:05*am, Bob Berger wrote:
In article ,
Mike Vandeman says...







On Mar 3, 9:27=A0pm, Bob Berger wrote:
In article =
.com,
Mike Vandeman says...

On Mar 3, 1:35=3DA0pm, Bob Berger wrote:
In article =
ups=3D
.com,
Len McGoogle says...

On Mar 2, 4:25=3D3DA0pm, Mike Vandeman wrot=
e:
On Mar 2, 10:39=3D3DA0am, Shraga wrote:

On Feb 26, 6:26=3D3DA0pm, Mike Vandeman =
wrot=3D
e:

Wilderness and Environmental Medicine, 6,385-390 (1995)

ORIGINAL ARTICLE

Do conventional bicycle helmets provide
adequate protection in mountain biking?

http://www.giro.com/us_en/products/c...rt.htmlhttp:/=
/ww=3D
...
...

... etc.

Any sport so extreme that it requires special protective equipment =
is
pretty stupid! Kind of like the people who practice it!

Like the helmets equestrians wear? I agree.

How about the helmets rock and mountain climbers wear?

Or the helmets (used to be called "tin hats") worn by many folks who h=
ike=3D
in the
old growth evergreen forests of the Pacific Northwest. (See the forest=
ry =3D
term
"widowmaker")?

BS. I hiked there many times and never saw anyone wearing anything
like that, liar.

No, not a liar, just a whole lot more time in the area than you.

You just lied AGAIN, because you haven't the foggiest idea how much
time I spent there.

True; but since I live here, it's probable I've spent more time here than you.

No it isn't. You have NO IDEA where I've been. Face it: you just LIED.

By the way, what are your favorite hiking areas here?

Mountain bikers think that their merely saying something makes it true.

Non-sequitur.

I still don't have an answer: Why can't mountain bikers EVER tell the
truth?

I'm not a mountain biker. The only "mountain bikes" I own I use only in
Yellowstone's upper geyser basin along the (mostly paved) bike path between Old
Faithful and Morning Glory Pool.

So you ARE a mountain biker, or at the very least a mountain biker
sympathizer. If you aren't a mountain biker, why to you ACT like one???

On Mar 4, 3:54*pm, Len McGoogle wrote:
On Mar 3, 10:04*pm, Mike Vandeman wrote:





On Mar 3, 5:57*pm, Len McGoogle wrote:

On Mar 3, 11:38*am, Mike Vandeman wrote:

On Mar 3, 7:02*am, Len McGoogle wrote:

On Mar 2, 4:25*pm, Mike Vandeman wrote:

On Mar 2, 10:39*am, Shraga wrote:

On Feb 26, 6:26*pm, Mike Vandeman wrote:

Wilderness and Environmental Medicine, 6,385-390 (1995)

ORIGINAL ARTICLE

Do conventional bicycle helmets provide
adequate protection in mountain biking?

http://www.giro.com/us_en/products/c....htmlhttp://ww......

... etc.

Any sport so extreme that it requires special protective equipment is
pretty stupid! Kind of like the people who practice it!

Like the helmets equestrians wear? I agree.

No, you don't, liar, or you wouldn't be mountain biking. Why can't
mountain bikers EVER tell the truth about their selfish, destructive,
disgusting sport?

Thanks for agreeing that equestrians are stupid and looking out for
their safety. They wear helmets because they are trying to control a
big dumb animal and could become injured.

No, they wear helmets because mountain bikers are stupider than
horses, and frequently endanger wildlife and other trail users.
Mountain bikers are their own worst enemies (evolution in action)!

Thank you! Thank you!

I appreciate you joining me and bringing to light how dangerous riding
horses is. Your endorsement that "Any sport so extreme that it
requires special protective equipment is pretty stupid! Kind of like
the people who practice it!" is just the statement we need to save the
lives of equestrians.

I agree, it is selfish to force an animal to carry and be controlled
by some fat human. Together we can free horses from this dangerous,
destructive pastime.

The easiest way to make horseback riding safer is to restrict bikes to
paved roads.

On Mar 2, 4:25*pm, Mike Vandeman wrote:
On Mar 2, 10:39*am, Shraga wrote:

On Feb 26, 6:26*pm, Mike Vandeman wrote:

Wilderness and Environmental Medicine, 6,385-390 (1995)

ORIGINAL ARTICLE

Do conventional bicycle helmets provide
adequate protection in mountain biking?

http://www.giro.com/us_en/products/c....htmlhttp://ww.......

... etc.

Any sport so extreme that it requires special protective equipment is
pretty stupid! Kind of like the people who practice it!

In other words, you think nearly all sports are stupid. So how do you
feel about seat belts? Do hand rails make staircases "extreme?"

Just when we think you can't look any more insane, you go and post a
gem like this one. You are truly your own worst enemy.

On Mar 4, 9:30*pm, Mike Vandeman wrote:
On Mar 4, 3:54*pm, Len McGoogle wrote:









On Mar 3, 10:04*pm, Mike Vandeman wrote:

On Mar 3, 5:57*pm, Len McGoogle wrote:

On Mar 3, 11:38*am, Mike Vandeman wrote:

On Mar 3, 7:02*am, Len McGoogle wrote:

On Mar 2, 4:25*pm, Mike Vandeman wrote:

On Mar 2, 10:39*am, Shraga wrote:

On Feb 26, 6:26*pm, Mike Vandeman wrote:

Wilderness and Environmental Medicine, 6,385-390 (1995)

ORIGINAL ARTICLE

Do conventional bicycle helmets provide
adequate protection in mountain biking?

http://www.giro.com/us_en/products/c....htmlhttp://ww......

... etc.

Any sport so extreme that it requires special protective equipment is
pretty stupid! Kind of like the people who practice it!

Like the helmets equestrians wear? I agree.

No, you don't, liar, or you wouldn't be mountain biking. Why can't
mountain bikers EVER tell the truth about their selfish, destructive,
disgusting sport?

Thanks for agreeing that equestrians are stupid and looking out for
their safety. They wear helmets because they are trying to control a
big dumb animal and could become injured.

No, they wear helmets because mountain bikers are stupider than
horses, and frequently endanger wildlife and other trail users.
Mountain bikers are their own worst enemies (evolution in action)!

Thank you! Thank you!

I appreciate you joining me and bringing to light how dangerous riding
horses is. Your endorsement that "Any sport so extreme that it
requires special protective equipment is pretty stupid! Kind of like
the people who practice it!" is just the statement we need to save the
lives of equestrians.

I agree, it is selfish to force an animal to carry and be controlled
by some fat human. Together we can free horses from this dangerous,
destructive pastime.

The easiest way to make horseback riding safer is to restrict bikes to
paved roads.

We'll work on that later.

For now, you and I need to spread the word that riding horses is
"pretty stupid, kind of like the people who practice it".

On Mar 5, 10:34*am, Shraga wrote:
On Mar 2, 4:25*pm, Mike Vandeman wrote:





On Mar 2, 10:39*am, Shraga wrote:

On Feb 26, 6:26*pm, Mike Vandeman wrote:

Wilderness and Environmental Medicine, 6,385-390 (1995)

ORIGINAL ARTICLE

Do conventional bicycle helmets provide
adequate protection in mountain biking?

http://www.giro.com/us_en/products/c....htmlhttp://ww.......

... etc.

Any sport so extreme that it requires special protective equipment is
pretty stupid! Kind of like the people who practice it!

In other words, you think nearly all sports are stupid. So how do you
feel about seat belts? Do hand rails make staircases "extreme?"

Thanks for demonstrating, once again, just how insane mountain bikers
are. You obviously don't care about your own welfare, or anyone
else's.

And, yes, seatbelts prove that driving a motor vehicle is insane. You
don't see too many hikers wearing seatbelts or helmets, do you? QED

On Mar 5, 1:58*pm, Len McGoogle wrote:
On Mar 4, 9:30*pm, Mike Vandeman wrote:





On Mar 4, 3:54*pm, Len McGoogle wrote:

On Mar 3, 10:04*pm, Mike Vandeman wrote:

On Mar 3, 5:57*pm, Len McGoogle wrote:

On Mar 3, 11:38*am, Mike Vandeman wrote:

On Mar 3, 7:02*am, Len McGoogle wrote:

On Mar 2, 4:25*pm, Mike Vandeman wrote:

On Mar 2, 10:39*am, Shraga wrote:

On Feb 26, 6:26*pm, Mike Vandeman wrote:

Wilderness and Environmental Medicine, 6,385-390 (1995)

ORIGINAL ARTICLE

Do conventional bicycle helmets provide
adequate protection in mountain biking?

http://www.giro.com/us_en/products/c....htmlhttp://ww......

... etc.

Any sport so extreme that it requires special protective equipment is
pretty stupid! Kind of like the people who practice it!

Like the helmets equestrians wear? I agree.

No, you don't, liar, or you wouldn't be mountain biking. Why can't
mountain bikers EVER tell the truth about their selfish, destructive,
disgusting sport?

Thanks for agreeing that equestrians are stupid and looking out for
their safety. They wear helmets because they are trying to control a
big dumb animal and could become injured.

No, they wear helmets because mountain bikers are stupider than
horses, and frequently endanger wildlife and other trail users.
Mountain bikers are their own worst enemies (evolution in action)!

Thank you! Thank you!

I appreciate you joining me and bringing to light how dangerous riding
horses is. Your endorsement that "Any sport so extreme that it
requires special protective equipment is pretty stupid! Kind of like
the people who practice it!" is just the statement we need to save the
lives of equestrians.

I agree, it is selfish to force an animal to carry and be controlled
by some fat human. Together we can free horses from this dangerous,
destructive pastime.

The easiest way to make horseback riding safer is to restrict bikes to
paved roads.

We'll work on that later.

For now, you and I need to spread the word that riding horses is
"pretty stupid, kind of like the people who practice it".

Obviously, that's not what I said, liar.

On Mar 5, 6:48*pm, Mike Vandeman wrote:
On Mar 5, 1:58*pm, Len McGoogle wrote:









On Mar 4, 9:30*pm, Mike Vandeman wrote:

On Mar 4, 3:54*pm, Len McGoogle wrote:

On Mar 3, 10:04*pm, Mike Vandeman wrote:

On Mar 3, 5:57*pm, Len McGoogle wrote:

On Mar 3, 11:38*am, Mike Vandeman wrote:

On Mar 3, 7:02*am, Len McGoogle wrote:

On Mar 2, 4:25*pm, Mike Vandeman wrote:

On Mar 2, 10:39*am, Shraga wrote:

On Feb 26, 6:26*pm, Mike Vandeman wrote:

Wilderness and Environmental Medicine, 6,385-390 (1995)

ORIGINAL ARTICLE

Do conventional bicycle helmets provide
adequate protection in mountain biking?

http://www.giro.com/us_en/products/c....htmlhttp://ww......

... etc.

Any sport so extreme that it requires special protective equipment is
pretty stupid! Kind of like the people who practice it!

Like the helmets equestrians wear? I agree.

No, you don't, liar, or you wouldn't be mountain biking. Why can't
mountain bikers EVER tell the truth about their selfish, destructive,
disgusting sport?

Thanks for agreeing that equestrians are stupid and looking out for
their safety. They wear helmets because they are trying to control a
big dumb animal and could become injured.

No, they wear helmets because mountain bikers are stupider than
horses, and frequently endanger wildlife and other trail users.
Mountain bikers are their own worst enemies (evolution in action)!

Thank you! Thank you!

I appreciate you joining me and bringing to light how dangerous riding
horses is. Your endorsement that "Any sport so extreme that it
requires special protective equipment is pretty stupid! Kind of like
the people who practice it!" is just the statement we need to save the
lives of equestrians.

I agree, it is selfish to force an animal to carry and be controlled
by some fat human. Together we can free horses from this dangerous,
destructive pastime.

The easiest way to make horseback riding safer is to restrict bikes to
paved roads.

We'll work on that later.

For now, you and I need to spread the word that riding horses is
"pretty stupid, kind of like the people who practice it".

Obviously, that's not what I said, liar.

Mike, don't be so modest, that's exactly what you said. You said ANY
sport so extreme that it requires special protective equipment is
pretty stupid! Kind of like the people who practice it!

Don't worry, I'll make sure you get all the credit.