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On Dec 19, 1:43*pm, thirty-six wrote:
On Dec 19, 4:33*pm, Ron Ruff wrote: On Dec 18, 11:49*am, damyth wrote: Fitting is one thing. *Getting a great ride is another. *I've pretty much come to the conclusion with 700c wheels (front and back) too many compromises must be made for small frames/riders That is because manufacturers want to avoid toe overlap. I like to avoid toe overlap. *I had my custom steel frame designed, *I wear sandles or British military assault boots. Toe overlap is a bummer, but I think it's one of those things that's hard to get around on a conventional bicycle. Extending the frame or fork to place the front wheel further away *dramatically* affects handling. I just take the occasional bump or snagging fender stay as a reminder lesson to not do that (there's almost never any reason for it). |
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On 12/21/2011 12:35 PM, Dan O wrote:
On Dec 19, 1:43 pm, wrote: On Dec 19, 4:33 pm, Ron wrote: On Dec 18, 11:49 am, wrote: Fitting is one thing. Getting a great ride is another. I've pretty much come to the conclusion with 700c wheels (front and back) too many compromises must be made for small frames/riders That is because manufacturers want to avoid toe overlap. I like to avoid toe overlap. I had my custom steel frame designed, I wear sandles or British military assault boots. Toe overlap is a bummer, but I think it's one of those things that's hard to get around on a conventional bicycle. Extending the frame or fork to place the front wheel further away *dramatically* affects handling. I just take the occasional bump or snagging fender stay as a reminder lesson to not do that (there's almost never any reason for it). I agree. Only time I really notice it is when I'm in bumper to bumper traffic and try to turn. Fortunately, haven't had more than a fright and quick un-clip. Probably shouldn't have tried that anyway. Otherwise bike handles extremely well. Have I mentioned lately that I hate traffic? |
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On 22/12/11 04:35, Dan O wrote:
On Dec 19, 1:43 pm, wrote: On Dec 19, 4:33 pm, Ron wrote: On Dec 18, 11:49 am, wrote: Fitting is one thing. Getting a great ride is another. I've pretty much come to the conclusion with 700c wheels (front and back) too many compromises must be made for small frames/riders That is because manufacturers want to avoid toe overlap. I like to avoid toe overlap. I had my custom steel frame designed, I wear sandles or British military assault boots. Toe overlap is a bummer, but I think it's one of those things that's hard to get around on a conventional bicycle. Extending the frame or fork to place the front wheel further away *dramatically* affects handling. I just take the occasional bump or snagging fender stay as a reminder lesson to not do that (there's almost never any reason for it). How dramatic is the effect of moving the front of the bike 5mm forward to avoid toe overlap? How dramatic is the effect of moving the rear wheel 5mm backward to allow for 28mm tyres? If the effect is dramatic, I must be a little insensitive too it. I had both these changes made to my frame design. All I'll say is that the bike feels more stable, especially hacking through corners. (Same wheels, tyres, pressures, forks and bars. 10mm shorter head stem.) The frame is also stiffer and lighter, due to the oversize thin walled steel tubes. -- JS. |
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On 22/12/11 04:59, Duane Hebert wrote:
Have I mentioned lately that I hate traffic? No. You should add that cars suck. -- JS. |
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On 12/21/2011 4:06 PM, James wrote:
On 22/12/11 04:59, Duane Hebert wrote: Have I mentioned lately that I hate traffic? No. You should add that cars suck. Cars suck. |
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Duane Hebert wrote:
On 12/21/2011 4:06 PM, James wrote: On 22/12/11 04:59, Duane Hebert wrote: Have I mentioned lately that I hate traffic? No. You should add that cars suck. Cars suck. Oh my, oh my! WHEN will our fantasy world arrive, where we can go everywhere we want and never see a motor vehicle? I'm _SO_ tired of waiting!!! (I assume Duane's 100% car-free. Right?) -- - Frank Krygowski |
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Dan O wrote:
Toe overlap is a bummer, but I think it's one of those things that's hard to get around on a conventional bicycle. Extending the frame or fork to place the front wheel further away *dramatically* affects handling. I just take the occasional bump or snagging fender stay as a reminder lesson to not do that (there's almost never any reason for it). I've never found toe overlap to be a problem. I've got it on most of my bikes, but compensation has never been difficult. -- - Frank Krygowski |
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On 22/12/11 09:39, Frank Krygowski wrote:
Duane Hebert wrote: On 12/21/2011 4:06 PM, James wrote: On 22/12/11 04:59, Duane Hebert wrote: Have I mentioned lately that I hate traffic? No. You should add that cars suck. Cars suck. Oh my, oh my! WHEN will our fantasy world arrive, where we can go everywhere we want and never see a motor vehicle? I'm _SO_ tired of waiting!!! (I assume Duane's 100% car-free. Right?) Like a snappy bass to a cricket in the drink... -- JS |
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On Dec 21, 10:41*pm, Frank Krygowski
wrote: Dan O wrote: Toe overlap is a bummer, but I think it's one of those things that's hard to get around on a conventional bicycle. *Extending the frame or fork to place the front wheel further away *dramatically* affects handling. *I just take the occasional bump or snagging fender stay as a reminder lesson to not do that (there's almost never any reason for it). I've never found toe overlap to be a problem. *I've got it on most of my bikes, but compensation has never been difficult. -- - Frank Krygowski Why not just use an appropriate crank length, it's not as if there is any advantage in using long cranks and there are plaenty of disadvantages? |
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On 22/12/11 14:51, thirty-six wrote:
On Dec 21, 10:41 pm, Frank wrote: Dan O wrote: Toe overlap is a bummer, but I think it's one of those things that's hard to get around on a conventional bicycle. Extending the frame or fork to place the front wheel further away *dramatically* affects handling. I just take the occasional bump or snagging fender stay as a reminder lesson to not do that (there's almost never any reason for it). I've never found toe overlap to be a problem. I've got it on most of my bikes, but compensation has never been difficult. -- - Frank Krygowski Why not just use an appropriate crank length, it's not as if there is any advantage in using long cranks and there are plaenty of disadvantages? Please identify all the pros and cons. -- JS |
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