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Bill Baka wrote:
I think I will take the extra 4 miles to avoid this road and forget I ever mentioned it. Most of us have found alternate routes because of places we didn't want to ride. Cycling should be fun. If it's no fun, why bother? Austin |
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On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 18:19:44 GMT, AustinMN wrote:
Bill Baka wrote: I think I will take the extra 4 miles to avoid this road and forget I ever mentioned it. Most of us have found alternate routes because of places we didn't want to ride. Cycling should be fun. If it's no fun, why bother? Austin It is fun, I just never thought I would get so much **** for mentioning how I ride on one section of road. I avoid it now and use a much busier road that has all the Air Force hot shots on it from Beale AFB. Those guys know how to speed, and if they can lose a cop by the time they get on base they win. Bill Baka -- Using M2, Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ |
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On 11 Aug 2004 22:44:59 GMT, Hunrobe wrote:
Bill Baka wrote in part: I avoid it now and use a much busier road that has all the Air Force hot shots on it from Beale AFB. Those guys know how to speed, and if they can lose a cop by the time they get on base they win. If this is true, then either the USAF must function differently from the Army and the Navy or you're defining "winning" solely as avoiding paying a speeding fine. I've seen personnel from both the Army (we used to have Fort Sheridan) and the Navy (we still have the Glenview Naval Station, albeit much reduced) receive discipline for such off-post behavior. Regards, Bob Hunt It goes both ways. My daughter got a ticket on the base as a civilian and they made a big deal out of it, post 9/11. Her boyfriend got stopped and warned for the same thing, since he was one of the servicemen. He told me of the guys making it to the gate and the local cops having no jusrisdiction. Others have told me of the same thing, times ten, at Travis AFB near Vacaville and highway 80, a well known speeding area. Glenview, huh? Evanston area north of Chicago. Is Pal-Waukee airport still there? I learned to fly there in a J-3 cub. Probably paved over like everything else. Bill Baka -- Using M2, Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ |
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"Bill Baka" wrote It is fun, I just never thought I would get so much **** for mentioning how I ride on one section of road. I avoid it now and use a much busier road that has all the Air Force hot shots on it from Beale AFB. Those guys know how to speed, and if they can lose a cop by the time they get on base they win. Bill Baka Having driven onto dozens(?) of airbases, literally thousands of times...you're full of crap. Especially after 9/11. 100% ID check at the gate. Usually a line, if only 2 or 3 cars. So he's stopped, at least for 20 seconds or so. Along with a weave barrier so slow you down. After having run the plate, and gotten the drivers details...they KNOW where he's going and where he lives. And if the cop gets a peek at the windshield, the base sticker is quite prominent. And base cops and city cops usually work quite well together. So much so that often there is a city liason officer on base a couple of times a week. Pete |
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On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 05:14:31 GMT, Pete wrote:
"Bill Baka" wrote It is fun, I just never thought I would get so much **** for mentioning how I ride on one section of road. I avoid it now and use a much busier road that has all the Air Force hot shots on it from Beale AFB. Those guys know how to speed, and if they can lose a cop by the time they get on base they win. Bill Baka Having driven onto dozens(?) of airbases, literally thousands of times...you're full of crap. Especially after 9/11. 100% ID check at the gate. Usually a line, if only 2 or 3 cars. So he's stopped, at least for 20 seconds or so. Along with a weave barrier so slow you down. Actually I hope you are right and the few guys I have talked to are bull****ting me. They do blast down the road to the base at well over the speed limit either way. After having run the plate, and gotten the drivers details...they KNOW where he's going and where he lives. And if the cop gets a peek at the windshield, the base sticker is quite prominent. The cop is usually behind, since they don't seem to be using radar on Beale road. I don't know why since they could make their quota easily. And base cops and city cops usually work quite well together. So much so that often there is a city liason officer on base a couple of times a week. In the evening there is no line, just 2 M.P.s and if they know someone they get past pretty quick. As a civilian I know I get checked very thoroughly. For the sake of everyone I do hope the enlisted guys I talked to were bull****ting me. Bill Baka Pete -- Using M2, Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ |
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On 12 Aug 2004 06:58:53 GMT, Hunrobe wrote:
Bill Baka wrote in part: He told me of the guys making it to the gate and the local cops having no jusrisdiction. Others have told me of the same thing, times ten, at Travis AFB near Vacaville and highway 80, a well known speeding area. ---snip--- Don't believe everything you hear. The jurisdictional issues are handled quite nicely when the MPs refuse to open the gates for the offender or, if he actually manages to make it onto the base, when they return him to the civilian authorities. In the latter case he can get whacked twice- once in the form of a speeding ticket and again in the form of military discipline. Glenview, huh? Evanston area north of Chicago. Is Pal-Waukee airport still there? I learned to fly there in a J-3 cub. Probably paved over like everything else. It's actually between Glenview and Evanston and yes, Palwaukee is still operating. The airstrip has been paved for as long as I've known. Wasn't it paved when you were there? ;-) I was there in 1962-1963 and it was paved. I was 14 at the time and couldn't wait to spend my $5.00 a week on flying lessons. The only thing I ever flew was a J-3 with a stick and I loved it, getting airborne at only about 30 MPH. It was nice to drop the sides and look out and straight down, and I remember landing into a good wind I could have run alongside the plane. Top speed was only about 75 or 80.Good times. I lived in Wheeling at the time so it was a bit of a bike ride to the airport, but well worth it. I lived in Mc Henry, then Des Plaines, Park Ridge, and then Wheeling as my parents bought progressively bigger houses. From Wheeling I rode with a friend up to the Wisconsin state line one Saturday, on 3 speeds, no less, and that was a great day of riding adventure. I went back there in 1993 and every place that I had played in (corn fields, etc.)was paved over with houses. Metra rail extends like spokes of a wheel from Chicago and everywhere the rail goes, people go and more houses take over. Sad really, but they have to live somewhere. Bike on, Bill Baka Regards, Bob Hunt -- Using M2, Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ |
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