You Can Crash While Cycle Racing Without Road Rash

On Jun 2, 5:32 pm, Dan O wrote:
On Jun 2, 5:31 pm, Dan O wrote:



On Jun 2, 5:13 pm, Tºm Shermªn™ °_° ""twshermanREMOVE\"@THI

$southslope.net" wrote:
On 6/2/2011 7:07 PM, Dan O wrote:

On Jun 2, 5:03 pm, Dan wrote:
On Jun 2, 4:53 pm, wrote:

James wrote:
T m Sherm n _ wrote:
On 6/2/2011 9:19 AM, Brad Anders wrote:

The military green torpedo is my fave.

Green #2 lapped the field 8 times (225 laps completed, with second
place doing 217 laps).

If only they learned to lean in to the corners.

Like this..http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6hOA2C_XMA

Dang! (download the plugin)

Welcome to the world of Adobe Flash™.

closed source native execution environment, personal laptop :-)

On another computer I saw the first one, though:
http://www.google.com/url?sa=D&q=htt...m/watch%3Fv%3D...

... whjeee! 8-)

Good racin

"Pain gonna make everything all right"

sorry about the barrage there

http://www.howtogetagrip.com/

Dan O wrote:
On Jun 2, 5:03 pm, Dan O wrote:
On Jun 2, 4:53 pm, James wrote:

James wrote:
Tºm Shermªn™ °_° wrote:
On 6/2/2011 9:19 AM, Brad Anders wrote:
The military green torpedo is my fave.
Green #2 lapped the field 8 times (225 laps completed, with second
place doing 217 laps).
If only they learned to lean in to the corners.
Like this..http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6hOA2C_XMA
Dang! (download the plugin)

On another computer I saw the first one, though:
http://www.google.com/url?sa=D&q=htt...m/watch%3Fv%3D...

... whjeee! 8-)

... what I didn't like was needin' somebody to pick you up (besides
the ambulance crew)

Like turtles on their backs!

--
JS.

Dan O wrote:
On Jun 2, 5:10 pm, Dan O wrote:
On Jun 2, 5:07 pm, Dan O wrote:

Always got up off the street by myself, though so far

... been inside a truck pitched over both wheels locked up on sandy
asphalt, though (bottom of a hill, too :-) -let go brakes and pulled
that ****er out! Other **** like that, too :-)

"Held my hand over a candle"

Can't wait to get up to high rock when the sun comes out up there
again

/baka

Had the ol' '67 Land Rover on 2 wheels going round a corner one day.
**** myself! Counter steered back to earth on all four wheels -
thankfully. Not my idea of fun. For Frank's sake, I need to grow
bigger balls!

--
JS.

-snippy snip-
Dan O wrote:
sorry about the barrage there
http://www.howtogetagrip.com/

Thank you, Dan.

I just sent that link to a guy who spent the entire day
being screwed by his ex and her attorneys.

r.b.t. : not just tech any more!

Now with tech, old approaches to tired subjects, hateful
diatribes and NEW psychotherapy!


--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

On 6/2/2011 7:25 PM, Dan O wrote:
On Jun 2, 5:13 pm, T�m Sherm�n� �_�""twshermanREMOVE\"@THI
$southslope.net" wrote:
On 6/2/2011 7:07 PM, Dan O wrote:

On Jun 2, 5:03 pm, Dan wrote:
On Jun 2, 4:53 pm, wrote:

James wrote:
T m Sherm n _ wrote:
On 6/2/2011 9:19 AM, Brad Anders wrote:

The military green torpedo is my fave.

Green #2 lapped the field 8 times (225 laps completed, with second
place doing 217 laps).

If only they learned to lean in to the corners.

Like this..http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6hOA2C_XMA

Dang! (download the plugin)

Welcome to the world of Adobe Flash�.

On another computer I saw the first one, though:
http://www.google.com/url?sa=D&q=htt...m/watch%3Fv%3D...

... whjeee! 8-)

... what I didn't like was needin' somebody to pick you up (besides
the ambulance crew)

The velomobiles are light enough that they could likely be rocked back
upright or the rider could exit, but the fastest way to get back in the
race is to let the course workers do it. And of course, no road rash to
the riders.

baka

I've also been out there on the track like those guys after falling
down and getting my head run right over by the pack before I could get
up (at least once that I remember ;-). (forunately had I necver got
to the mile ovals yet)

Motorcycle flat track racing?

--
Tºm Shermªn - 42.435731,-83.985007
I am a vehicular cyclist.

On 6/2/2011 7:06 PM, Tºm Shermªn™ °_° wrote:
On 6/2/2011 6:53 PM, James wrote:
James wrote:
Tºm Shermªn™ °_° wrote:
On 6/2/2011 9:19 AM, Brad Anders wrote:

The military green torpedo is my fave.

Green #2 lapped the field 8 times (225 laps completed, with second
place doing 217 laps).


If only they learned to lean in to the corners.


Like this.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6hOA2C_XMA


Has been done, but not found to be worth the added weight and complexity.


Watching the video is interesting.

It would seem that doing well in such circumstances is not only about
just being able to go fast in a mostly-straight line, but also of having
good lateral stability (handling), good brakes and a functional reverse
gear....

I look at this and also wonder about using bicycle wheels at all, just
because they use so much internal space. Karting wheels would seem to be
a better choice.

Kinda makes me wish there was regular competitions like this in the USA.

On 6/3/2011 2:21 PM, DougC wrote:
On 6/2/2011 7:06 PM, Tºm Shermªn™ °_° wrote:
On 6/2/2011 6:53 PM, James wrote:
James wrote:
Tºm Shermªn™ °_° wrote:
On 6/2/2011 9:19 AM, Brad Anders wrote:

The military green torpedo is my fave.

Green #2 lapped the field 8 times (225 laps completed, with second
place doing 217 laps).


If only they learned to lean in to the corners.


Like this.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6hOA2C_XMA


Has been done, but not found to be worth the added weight and complexity.


Watching the video is interesting.

It would seem that doing well in such circumstances is not only about
just being able to go fast in a mostly-straight line, but also of having
good lateral stability (handling), good brakes and a functional reverse
gear....

Notice how the winner (Green Trisled Aquila #2 at 0:43-0:47, 0:58-1:04,
2:54 to 2:57 and 3:11 to 3:19) always seems to be on a better line that
most of the other racers:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iwn_davpik8&feature=player_embedded.

I look at this and also wonder about using bicycle wheels at all, just
because they use so much internal space. Karting wheels would seem to be
a better choice.

Rolling resistance is critical, with so little power available.

Kinda makes me wish there was regular competitions like this in the USA.

Indeed.

--
Tºm Shermªn - 42.435731,-83.985007
I am a vehicular cyclist.

On Jun 3, 3:21*pm, DougC wrote:

I look at this and also wonder about using bicycle wheels at all, just
because they use so much internal space. Karting wheels would seem to be
a better choice.

I wonder why there were no two-wheelers. Or did I miss them? Is it a
race rule to have three, or is there some advantage?

I'd have thought that two wheels would lower rolling resistance,
greatly reduce tendency to roll over, and perhaps lower wind
resistance as well. The top-speed record setters are all two-
wheelers, aren't they?

Kinda makes me wish there was regular competitions like this in the USA.

I recall watching one similar race in NW Pennsylvania back about
1980. The designs hadn't settled out at that point in time, so there
were some truly weird machines - and riders!

One rider in particular was a sort of post-apocalyptic character,
wearing combat boots and riding a very low, very crude Frankenbike
with something over 100 speeds. He went everywhere wearing two large
eyeglass mirrors, one on each side. Quite freaky! I wonder where he
is now.

- Frank Krygowski

On 6/3/2011 9:56 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On Jun 3, 3:21�pm, wrote:

I look at this and also wonder about using bicycle wheels at all, just
because they use so much internal space. Karting wheels would seem to be
a better choice.

I wonder why there were no two-wheelers. Or did I miss them? Is it a
race rule to have three, or is there some advantage?

Minimum of three wheels:
http://www.pedalprix.com.au/files/documents/2011%20Vehicle%20Specifications.pdf.

I'd have thought that two wheels would lower rolling resistance,
greatly reduce tendency to roll over, and perhaps lower wind
resistance as well. The top-speed record setters are all two-
wheelers, aren't they?

Yes.

Kinda makes me wish there was regular competitions like this in the USA.

I recall watching one similar race in NW Pennsylvania back about
1980. The designs hadn't settled out at that point in time, so there
were some truly weird machines - and riders!

One rider in particular was a sort of post-apocalyptic character,
wearing combat boots and riding a very low, very crude Frankenbike
with something over 100 speeds. He went everywhere wearing two large
eyeglass mirrors, one on each side. Quite freaky! I wonder where he
is now.

Did he look like this:
http://www.outsideconnection.com/gallant/hpv/joe/MVC-023S.JPG?

Would be Chalo's friend from his Seattle days, Joe Kochanowski:
http://www.outsideconnection.com/gallant/hpv/joe/.

--
Tºm Shermªn - 42.435731,-83.985007
I am a vehicular cyclist.

On Jun 2, 6:39 pm, Tºm Shermªn™ °_° ""twshermanREMOVE\"@THI
$southslope.net" wrote:
On 6/2/2011 7:25 PM, Dan O wrote:



On Jun 2, 5:13 pm, T m Sherm n _ ""twshermanREMOVE\"@THI
$southslope.net" wrote:
On 6/2/2011 7:07 PM, Dan O wrote:

On Jun 2, 5:03 pm, Dan wrote:
On Jun 2, 4:53 pm, wrote:

James wrote:
T m Sherm n _ wrote:
On 6/2/2011 9:19 AM, Brad Anders wrote:

The military green torpedo is my fave.

Green #2 lapped the field 8 times (225 laps completed, with second
place doing 217 laps).

If only they learned to lean in to the corners.

Like this..http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6hOA2C_XMA

Dang! (download the plugin)

Welcome to the world of Adobe Flash .

On another computer I saw the first one, though:
http://www.google.com/url?sa=D&q=htt...m/watch%3Fv%3D...

... whjeee! 8-)

... what I didn't like was needin' somebody to pick you up (besides
the ambulance crew)

The velomobiles are light enough that they could likely be rocked back
upright or the rider could exit, but the fastest way to get back in the
race is to let the course workers do it. And of course, no road rash to
the riders.

baka

I've also been out there on the track like those guys after falling
down and getting my head run right over by the pack before I could get
up (at least once that I remember ;-). (forunately had I necver got
to the mile ovals yet)

Motorcycle flat track racing?


uh-huh