Speed Camera death...

"Stephen (aka steford)"
wrote in message ...
Anyone hear the outrageous story on BBC radio this morning that a man in
Austria was killed by a speeed camera? It was reported in all seriousness
and suggested it added fuel to the argument for those hoping to get rid of
cameras. Turns out that the bloke who died was going 200kmh, overtaking
round a blind corner when the camera caught him, flashed and supposedly
contributed to his death by distracting him with him ending up in a ditch.
I
would say it was excessive speed and stupidity but the BBC seemingly think
otherwise.


Darwinism!

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Pete.
Derby.

Peter Connolly wrote:
"Stephen (aka steford)"
wrote in message
...
Anyone hear the outrageous story on BBC radio this morning that a
man in Austria was killed by a speeed camera? It was reported in all
seriousness and suggested it added fuel to the argument for those
hoping to get rid of cameras. Turns out that the bloke who died was
going 200kmh, overtaking round a blind corner when the camera caught
him, flashed and supposedly contributed to his death by distracting
him with him ending up in a ditch. I would say it was excessive
speed and stupidity but the BBC seemingly think otherwise.


Darwinism!

Exactly. They even scrambled a helicopter to try and save this idiot
apparently.

Daniel Auger wrote:
On Tue, 15 Jul 2003, Stephen (aka steford) wrote:

Anyone hear the outrageous story on BBC radio this morning that a
man in Austria was killed by a speeed camera? It was reported in all
seriousness and suggested it added fuel to the argument for those
hoping to get rid of cameras. Turns out that the bloke who died was
going 200kmh, overtaking round a blind corner when the camera caught
him, flashed and supposedly contributed to his death by distracting
him with him ending up in a ditch. I would say it was excessive
speed and stupidity but the BBC seemingly think otherwise.

Indeed. Though I am sorry for the individual concerned, his friends
and family.

I'm not. He obviously wasn't thinking about them or others as he cornered at
that speed.

Turns out that the bloke who died was going 200kmh, overtaking
round a blind corner when the camera caught him, flashed and supposedly
contributed to his death by distracting him with him ending up in a ditch.
I
would say it was excessive speed and stupidity but the BBC seemingly think
otherwise.


Is it me, or is the beeb generally very pro-car and very
anti-any-other-form-of-transport? It seems the only time they'll take an
anti-car stance is to berate the government for not keeping promises to
reduce traffic levels.
Apart from hosting a number of programs, hosted by a certain select group of
people (won't mention any names), the news/current affairs is always
anti-cycle, anti-pedestrian, anti-congestion-charging/anti-trains etc etc.

Is it me, or is the beeb generally very pro-car and very
anti-any-other-form-of-transport? It seems the only time they'll take an
anti-car stance is to berate the government for not keeping promises to
reduce traffic levels.
Apart from hosting a number of programs, hosted by a certain select group of
people (won't mention any names), the news/current affairs is always
anti-cycle, anti-pedestrian, anti-congestion-charging/anti-trains etc etc.

Seems about right :-(

Cheers, helen s


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On Tue, 15 Jul 2003 13:45:02 +0100, "Stephen \(aka steford\)"
wrote:

Anyone hear the outrageous story on BBC radio this morning

Which programme? I am minded to ask for a transcript.

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In article , one of infinite monkeys
at the keyboard of "Johnny Klunk" wrote:

Is it me, or is the beeb generally very pro-car and very
anti-any-other-form-of-transport?

The beeb more-or-less ran the petrol-price campaign. First millions-
worth of free publicity for "dump the pump", including all those
instructions to fill up the day before protest-day. Then when the
silent majority didn't support that campaign, they did a lot to
incite the thugs who ran the blockades - a campaign that didn't
need public support 'cos it didn't ask the public.

--
Axis of Evil: Whose economy needs ever more wars?
Arms Exports $bn: USA 14.2, UK 5.1, vs France 1.5, Germany 0.8
(The Economist, July 2002)

Is it me, or is the beeb generally very pro-car and very
anti-any-other-form-of-transport? It seems the only time they'll take an
anti-car stance is to berate the government for not keeping promises to
reduce traffic levels.
Apart from hosting a number of programs, hosted by a certain select group
of
people (won't mention any names), the news/current affairs is always
anti-cycle, anti-pedestrian, anti-congestion-charging/anti-trains etc etc.

I only listen to bits of Radio 4 but I can't recall any anti cycling rants.
I have heard several debates about the value of spending billions on rail
travel - but that arguement has been discussed in this forum.

It's likely that radio presenters are going to be a bit pro-car; they own
cars. I'm pro-car in some circumstances (I own a car); I'd like to amend
that; I'm pro road user and would very much like us all to get get on
without shouting at each other. But; all our transport groups contain
silly/bad/non-observant/non-thinking members. So car drivers rant on about
cyclists running red lights or about motorcyclists who go too fast. Cyclists
rant about the car driver that opens the door on them - but not the 1429
drivers that didn't. etc. ..........

Because I cycle for recreation, drive a car when necessary and motorcyle for
both reasons I suppose I am sitting on the junction of 3 fences. It's a
great view.

John

p.s. sorry for sounding sanctimonious.

Dave wrote:
"Stephen (aka steford)"
wrote in message
...
Anyone hear the outrageous story on BBC radio this morning that a
man in Austria was killed by a speeed camera? It was reported in all
seriousness and suggested it added fuel to the argument for those
hoping to get rid of cameras. Turns out that the bloke who died was
going 200kmh, overtaking round a blind corner when the camera caught
him, flashed and supposedly contributed to his death by distracting
him with him ending up in a ditch. I would say it was excessive
speed and stupidity but the BBC seemingly think otherwise.


What ?!!?....his dying words, just heard by the motorist he'd nearly
totalled - "it was the damn speed camera flash what done for
me.....uuuhh..."

Yes - I'm amazed by the sheer stupidity of blaming it on the speed camera
but also by the fact that they knew it had flashed and that was the casue.
An eyewitness claimed he was overtaking and doing 200kmh and probably also
mentioned the flash. This undoubtedly got picked up by the anti-camera
groups or his family or something and became the "news" item on the beeb who
were quite happy to blame the camera too. I could barely pedal listening to
this rubbish.

On Tue, 15 Jul 2003 20:49:28 +0100, "Eatmorepies"
wrote:

...
Because I cycle for recreation, drive a car when necessary and motorcyle for
both reasons I suppose I am sitting on the junction of 3 fences. It's a
great view.


Uncomfortable, isn't it?


Pete Barrett