Votes needed

Should the fine for riding a bike without lights be more than £30
http://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/ (bottom right corner)

Currently 65% Yes, 35% No.

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On 01/11/2007 13:44, Tony Raven said,
Should the fine for riding a bike without lights be more than £30
http://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/ (bottom right corner)

Currently 65% Yes, 35% No.

It's now gone to 67%. Good!

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Paul Boyd wrote:
On 01/11/2007 13:44, Tony Raven said,
Should the fine for riding a bike without lights be more than £30
http://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/ (bottom right corner)

Currently 65% Yes, 35% No.

It's now gone to 67%. Good!

What they should be asking is:

Should the fine for killing a cyclist with your car be more than £500?

On Thu, 01 Nov 2007 20:08:17 GMT, Martin Dann
wrote:

Paul Boyd wrote:
On 01/11/2007 13:44, Tony Raven said,
Should the fine for riding a bike without lights be more than £30
http://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/ (bottom right corner)

Currently 65% Yes, 35% No.

It's now gone to 67%. Good!

What they should be asking is:

Should the fine for killing a cyclist with your car be more than £500?

No. What they should be asking is:
Should cyclists found to be cycling at night without lights be
compelled to show a receipt for bike lights at a local police station
within 48 hours or face a fine?

On Thu, 01 Nov 2007 20:45:41 +0000, Tom Crispin
wrote:

Should cyclists found to be cycling at night without lights be
compelled to show a receipt for bike lights at a local police station
within 48 hours or face a fine?

Of course not. What if they had a set at home and had merely omitted
to fit them?

Neil

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"Tony Raven" wrote in message

Should the fine for riding a bike without lights be more than £30
http://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/ (bottom right corner)

And what do you think my vote should be, Tony?

Tim

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On Thu, 01 Nov 2007 20:56:20 GMT, (Neil
Williams) wrote:

On Thu, 01 Nov 2007 20:45:41 +0000, Tom Crispin
wrote:

Should cyclists found to be cycling at night without lights be
compelled to show a receipt for bike lights at a local police station
within 48 hours or face a fine?

Of course not. What if they had a set at home and had merely omitted
to fit them?

Perhaps they could wheel their bike into the LPS.

While a fine is quick and easy to impose, compelling the
purchase/fitting of lights will do far more to reform behaviour.

Tom Crispin wrote:

On Thu, 01 Nov 2007 20:56:20 GMT, (Neil
Williams) wrote:

On Thu, 01 Nov 2007 20:45:41 +0000, Tom Crispin
wrote:

Should cyclists found to be cycling at night without lights be
compelled to show a receipt for bike lights at a local police station
within 48 hours or face a fine?

Of course not. What if they had a set at home and had merely omitted
to fit them?

Perhaps they could wheel their bike into the LPS.

While a fine is quick and easy to impose, compelling the
purchase/fitting of lights will do far more to reform behaviour.

Indeed. They should be fined for riding illegally and then obliged to
demonstrate that they have fitted effective lights.

Cheers,
Luke


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Neil Williams wrote:
On Thu, 01 Nov 2007 20:45:41 +0000, Tom Crispin
wrote:

Should cyclists found to be cycling at night without lights be
compelled to show a receipt for bike lights at a local police station
within 48 hours or face a fine?

Of course not. What if they had a set at home and had merely omitted
to fit them?

Then they obviously already knew they were supposed to display lights at
night, and arguably deserve the fine. The receipt-for-bike-lights thing
is, ISTM, aimed at educating new cyclists who had not been aware of
their legal responsibilities, not as a get-out clause for dozy pillocks
who had no excuse to be.

Which is not to say I haven't had the lack of foresight to end up
cycling unlit at night myself sometimes, but if I was caught at it I
hope I wouldn't grumble.


-dan

Tim Dunne wrote:

And what do you think my vote should be, Tony?

Vote MRLP, the only sane choice.


p.s. Rather apt choice from the sig generator.

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