cyclist nearly kills himself

Marvin wrote:
A couple of weeks ago I was driving along, approaching a roundabout in
the left hand lane. I'd just passed a cyclist about 15 metres before the
roundabout, stop at the roundabout, then when there's a gap i start to
go only to suddenly see that the cyclist has planted himself at the
corner of my nearside front bumper, I think I nudged him slightly before
I saw him and turned away from him a bit. What a ****ing moron! The
thing that got me was he seemed to think it was my fault. He was wearing
dark clothing as well and it was getting dark.

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Abo said the following on 18/12/2006 10:23:
Marvin wrote:
A couple of weeks ago I was driving along, approaching a roundabout in
the left hand lane. I'd just passed a cyclist about 15 metres before
the roundabout, stop at the roundabout, then when there's a gap i
start to go only to suddenly see that the cyclist has planted himself
at the corner of my nearside front bumper

I don't know where this started, but is this a motorist admitting that
he wasn't looking before he moved off? What a moron!

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Paul Boyd wrote:
Abo said the following on 18/12/2006 10:23:
Marvin wrote:
A couple of weeks ago I was driving along, approaching a roundabout
in the left hand lane. I'd just passed a cyclist about 15 metres
before the roundabout, stop at the roundabout, then when there's a
gap i start to go only to suddenly see that the cyclist has planted
himself at the corner of my nearside front bumper

I don't know where this started,

uk.rec.driving

but is this a motorist admitting that
he wasn't looking before he moved off?

Yup, and expecting sympathy. ROFL

What a moron!

That's being unkind to morons.

Paul Boyd wrote:
Abo said the following on 18/12/2006 10:23:
Marvin wrote:
A couple of weeks ago I was driving along, approaching a roundabout
in the left hand lane. I'd just passed a cyclist about 15 metres
before the roundabout, stop at the roundabout, then when there's a
gap i start to go only to suddenly see that the cyclist has planted
himself at the corner of my nearside front bumper

I don't know where this started, but is this a motorist admitting that
he wasn't looking before he moved off? What a moron!


uk.rec.driving

He's not a motorist, he's a 'car operator'...

Yeah, he basically admits this, refuses to take on board advice from
several motorists on how to avoid the situation, learns nothing and goes
on to admit he would happily do it again!

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Abo wrote on 18/12/2006 10:23 +0100:
Marvin wrote:
A couple of weeks ago I was driving along, approaching a roundabout in
the left hand lane. I'd just passed a cyclist about 15 metres before
the roundabout, stop at the roundabout, then when there's a gap i
start to go only to suddenly see that the cyclist has planted himself
at the corner of my nearside front bumper, I think I nudged him
slightly before I saw him and turned away from him a bit. What a
****ing moron! The thing that got me was he seemed to think it was my
fault. He was wearing dark clothing as well and it was getting dark.

Crossposted to other interested groups...


Probably already been pointed out but:
143: DO NOT overtake where you might come into conflict with other road
users. For example

* approaching or at a road junction on either side of the road
* ...
* ...
* ...
* ...
* when you would force another vehicle to swerve or slow down

15m is a couple of seconds travel on a bicycle at 15mph.

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Tony Raven wrote:
Abo wrote on 18/12/2006 10:23 +0100:
Marvin wrote:
A couple of weeks ago I was driving along, approaching a roundabout in
the left hand lane. I'd just passed a cyclist about 15 metres before
the roundabout, stop at the roundabout, then when there's a gap i
start to go only to suddenly see that the cyclist has planted himself
at the corner of my nearside front bumper, I think I nudged him
slightly before I saw him and turned away from him a bit. What a
****ing moron! The thing that got me was he seemed to think it was my
fault. He was wearing dark clothing as well and it was getting dark.

Crossposted to other interested groups...


Probably already been pointed out but:
143: DO NOT overtake where you might come into conflict with other road
users. For example

* approaching or at a road junction on either side of the road
* ...
* ...
* ...
* ...
* when you would force another vehicle to swerve or slow down

15m is a couple of seconds travel on a bicycle at 15mph.

Who invented this 15 mph, I can't see it in the original post?

Seems the cycle passed the car whilst the car was stopped, passed on
it's near side, in contravention of the rule quoted above. Also the
cyclist failed to make himself conspicious as advised in the H.C. and
positioned himself poorly.

Even so the car driver should have kept a better look out. I put them
both equally to blame, lucky there wasn't an accident.

Makes you wonder why the cyclist wasn't on the pavement where they
usually are.

Paul Boyd wrote:
Abo said the following on 18/12/2006 10:23:
Marvin wrote:
A couple of weeks ago I was driving along, approaching a roundabout
in the left hand lane. I'd just passed a cyclist about 15 metres
before the roundabout, stop at the roundabout, then when there's a
gap i start to go only to suddenly see that the cyclist has planted
himself at the corner of my nearside front bumper

I don't know where this started, but is this a motorist admitting that
he wasn't looking before he moved off? What a moron!

As Dave Hansen pointed out in a concurrent thread:

"To cycle other than in the Primary Position on a roundabout means
the cyclist is exposing themselves to extra danger for the
convenience of others. "

Cycle craft recommends taking the primary position at least 20m in advance
at a single lane round about and for multi lane roundabouts "as soon as you
pass the advance 'Roundabout Ahead' sign , but on high speed roads where
signing distances are greater wait until you are about 100m from the
junction"

The primary error was by the cyclist in not adopting the Primary Position,
the second error was by the motorist passing the cyclist too close to the
roundabout
the third error was by the cyclist passing on the left of a stationary
vehicle and stopping at the front left comer of the car at the roundabout,
the fourth error was by the motorist failing to observe fully.

The Key initiating error was by the cyclist & a contributing factor was
wearing dark clothing.

pk

In article , Abo says...
Marvin wrote:
A couple of weeks ago I was driving along, approaching a roundabout in
the left hand lane. I'd just passed a cyclist about 15 metres before the
roundabout, stop at the roundabout, then when there's a gap i start to
go only to suddenly see that the cyclist has planted himself at the
corner of my nearside front bumper, I think I nudged him slightly before
I saw him and turned away from him a bit. What a ****ing moron! The
thing that got me was he seemed to think it was my fault. He was wearing
dark clothing as well and it was getting dark.

Crossposted to other interested groups...

Oooh, you *******. That'll get the traffic up.


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Conor ) gurgled happily, sounding much like they
were saying :

Crossposted to other interested groups...

Oooh, you *******. That'll get the traffic up.

Mmmm. We haven't had a good flamefest for a while...

Oi! Lycra-trouser brigade! We can see your willies - and they're tiny.

Adrian wrote:

Mmmm. We haven't had a good flamefest for a while...

Oi! Lycra-trouser brigade! We can see your willies - and they're tiny.

At least we don't need a substitute.

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