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Old March 25th 21, 11:17 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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I was having problems finding the sort of aluminum frame I was looking for, for a price I was willing to pay. Since I am impressed with Felt and they are selling off old stock, it appeared that I was going to have to buy one of those for about $500. Since this is where I stop buying and selling I don't mind paying that. But the catch is that it is a disk bike and I am most definitely not a fan of disks. Neither is a large portion of the pro peloton though they are being sponsored and can't contradict the sponsors. Only Chris Froome feels the freedom to say what he feels.

That would mean that I would have to buy hydraulic levers and disks and actuators. I prefer rim brakes on aluminum wheels.

So I ran across a Douglas in my NORMAL size for less than $200 for frame, California sales tax and shipping.

Douglas was the house brand of Colorado Cyclist when they were a booming business before the Democrats decided to punish business success.

It looks to be everything I am on the market for. A fork can be had for a wave of the hand and if a carbon fiber fork is good enough for Greg Lemond and Eddy Merckx it's good enough for me. An EC90 can be gotten for less than $70 new and you don't need to get a superlight and worry about its strength since the regular fork in only 20 grams heavier than the super-light. Although I have a new set of new set of Fulcrum disk wheels they can be used with rim brakes. They were cheaper than dirt since all carbon is everything today. I have all of the rest of the parts taken from the Look. So cables and handlebar tape is all that is needed. Depending on the position of the stops, maybe not even cables. The handlebar tape is still on the aluminum bar I removed. The cables are still run and from the pictures it appears that the Look stops were further away than that of the Douglas.

With the coming of warmer weather, the demand for bikes is shooting up. The dealers again can't keep up with the demand. There were 20 boxes in the Specialized dealer yesterday when I got there. 5 people were actually buying bikes not just looking. Though most of them were kids because that was the only display bikes they still had. Di2 is not only popular but since the change to wireless is only effecting the new levers and the main battery. people won't be too willing to have the newest Di2. Besides, the latest and greatest is 12 gears and EVERYONE is catching on that they're being played.

The weight of the Eddy Merckx Elite looks like it will come out very near the Trek Emonda without working hard at it. The 3T stem and handlebar is quite a bit lighter than the integrated Look bar that is on the Madone I just sold. Carefully looking over the Rock Bros Keo copies gives me the idea that they are made in the same factory that makes the Look Keo standard pedal. They even weight a bit less. The mechanism look like a slight improvement. If you're going to give the Asians your technology you should remember that their engineers are just as good as yours and can and will improve it and sell it cheaper.

I went through the entire gamut of bikes over the last ten years since I recovered. Older carbon fiber like I was originally injured on except for better forks. Steel because it rides SOOO much better, new and newer steel that is so stiff it might as well be new CF, then the absolute top of the line carbon fiber bikes and their strengths and weaknesses. You CANNOT tell quality control of the layup from the outside. You have to depend upon reputation and Hambini did a very good job of showing that there was poor quality in the industry. So back of "almost as light but a HELL of a lot more reliable" aluminum. They are usually too stiff, but now that we are riding 28 mm tires that problem is solved. The difference it made on my Time was breathtaking! With 23 mm you could NOT ride that bike. With 28's it was a dream come true. I should have kept that bike since unlike most carbon fiber bikes it had alternate layups of Kevlar which doesn't tear like carbon fiber may..

And wouldn't you rather pay $1100 for a top of the line Aluminum bike than $12,000 for a carbon bike with Di2? Electric shifting is nice and it is better than manual shifting but it is too little for the extra price and when was manual shifting bad?

I have these carbon fiber saddles that weigh next to nothing. They are maybe 10 grams heavier than some of the slotted and "bendy" saddles. They are just slightly less comfortable than the San Torino. When I was doing long climbs i used to have to stretch my back all the time. Surprisingly, when I started using the slotted saddles that disappeared and my back problems disappeared. Live and learn. And use the cheep Chinese carbon saddles rather than the expensive Italian ones. The saddles are surprisingly comfortable without any padding. I would not have thought that possible.
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Old March 26th 21, 05:50 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Thursday, March 25, 2021 at 4:17:33 PM UTC-7, Tom Kunich wrote:
I was having problems finding the sort of aluminum frame I was looking for, for a price I was willing to pay. Since I am impressed with Felt and they are selling off old stock, it appeared that I was going to have to buy one of those for about $500. Since this is where I stop buying and selling I don't mind paying that. But the catch is that it is a disk bike and I am most definitely not a fan of disks. Neither is a large portion of the pro peloton though they are being sponsored and can't contradict the sponsors. Only Chris Froome feels the freedom to say what he feels.

That would mean that I would have to buy hydraulic levers and disks and actuators. I prefer rim brakes on aluminum wheels.

So I ran across a Douglas in my NORMAL size for less than $200 for frame, California sales tax and shipping.

Douglas was the house brand of Colorado Cyclist when they were a booming business before the Democrats decided to punish business success.

It looks to be everything I am on the market for. A fork can be had for a wave of the hand and if a carbon fiber fork is good enough for Greg Lemond and Eddy Merckx it's good enough for me. An EC90 can be gotten for less than $70 new and you don't need to get a superlight and worry about its strength since the regular fork in only 20 grams heavier than the super-light. Although I have a new set of new set of Fulcrum disk wheels they can be used with rim brakes. They were cheaper than dirt since all carbon is everything today. I have all of the rest of the parts taken from the Look. So cables and handlebar tape is all that is needed. Depending on the position of the stops, maybe not even cables. The handlebar tape is still on the aluminum bar I removed. The cables are still run and from the pictures it appears that the Look stops were further away than that of the Douglas.

With the coming of warmer weather, the demand for bikes is shooting up. The dealers again can't keep up with the demand. There were 20 boxes in the Specialized dealer yesterday when I got there. 5 people were actually buying bikes not just looking. Though most of them were kids because that was the only display bikes they still had. Di2 is not only popular but since the change to wireless is only effecting the new levers and the main battery. people won't be too willing to have the newest Di2. Besides, the latest and greatest is 12 gears and EVERYONE is catching on that they're being played.

The weight of the Eddy Merckx Elite looks like it will come out very near the Trek Emonda without working hard at it. The 3T stem and handlebar is quite a bit lighter than the integrated Look bar that is on the Madone I just sold. Carefully looking over the Rock Bros Keo copies gives me the idea that they are made in the same factory that makes the Look Keo standard pedal. They even weight a bit less. The mechanism look like a slight improvement. If you're going to give the Asians your technology you should remember that their engineers are just as good as yours and can and will improve it and sell it cheaper.

I went through the entire gamut of bikes over the last ten years since I recovered. Older carbon fiber like I was originally injured on except for better forks. Steel because it rides SOOO much better, new and newer steel that is so stiff it might as well be new CF, then the absolute top of the line carbon fiber bikes and their strengths and weaknesses. You CANNOT tell quality control of the layup from the outside. You have to depend upon reputation and Hambini did a very good job of showing that there was poor quality in the industry. So back of "almost as light but a HELL of a lot more reliable" aluminum. They are usually too stiff, but now that we are riding 28 mm tires that problem is solved. The difference it made on my Time was breathtaking! With 23 mm you could NOT ride that bike. With 28's it was a dream come true. I should have kept that bike since unlike most carbon fiber bikes it had alternate layups of Kevlar which doesn't tear like carbon fiber may.

And wouldn't you rather pay $1100 for a top of the line Aluminum bike than $12,000 for a carbon bike with Di2? Electric shifting is nice and it is better than manual shifting but it is too little for the extra price and when was manual shifting bad?

I have these carbon fiber saddles that weigh next to nothing. They are maybe 10 grams heavier than some of the slotted and "bendy" saddles. They are just slightly less comfortable than the San Torino. When I was doing long climbs i used to have to stretch my back all the time. Surprisingly, when I started using the slotted saddles that disappeared and my back problems disappeared. Live and learn. And use the cheep Chinese carbon saddles rather than the expensive Italian ones. The saddles are surprisingly comfortable without any padding. I would not have thought that possible.

I am beginning to get inquiries for the two high end carbon bikes with Di2 I have left. Since spring is coming on people will be more and more interested in getting a new super-speed bike. So they ought to go out the door at asking prices.

For the Douglas I just bought a Look fork. They have by a country mile the highest quality control of all CF manufacturers and tis being a new fork I won't have anything at all to worry about for the rest of my life.
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Old March 30th 21, 01:28 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Friday, March 26, 2021 at 10:50:27 AM UTC-7, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Thursday, March 25, 2021 at 4:17:33 PM UTC-7, Tom Kunich wrote:
I was having problems finding the sort of aluminum frame I was looking for, for a price I was willing to pay. Since I am impressed with Felt and they are selling off old stock, it appeared that I was going to have to buy one of those for about $500. Since this is where I stop buying and selling I don't mind paying that. But the catch is that it is a disk bike and I am most definitely not a fan of disks. Neither is a large portion of the pro peloton though they are being sponsored and can't contradict the sponsors. Only Chris Froome feels the freedom to say what he feels.

That would mean that I would have to buy hydraulic levers and disks and actuators. I prefer rim brakes on aluminum wheels.

So I ran across a Douglas in my NORMAL size for less than $200 for frame, California sales tax and shipping.

Douglas was the house brand of Colorado Cyclist when they were a booming business before the Democrats decided to punish business success.

It looks to be everything I am on the market for. A fork can be had for a wave of the hand and if a carbon fiber fork is good enough for Greg Lemond and Eddy Merckx it's good enough for me. An EC90 can be gotten for less than $70 new and you don't need to get a superlight and worry about its strength since the regular fork in only 20 grams heavier than the super-light. Although I have a new set of new set of Fulcrum disk wheels they can be used with rim brakes. They were cheaper than dirt since all carbon is everything today. I have all of the rest of the parts taken from the Look. So cables and handlebar tape is all that is needed. Depending on the position of the stops, maybe not even cables. The handlebar tape is still on the aluminum bar I removed. The cables are still run and from the pictures it appears that the Look stops were further away than that of the Douglas.

With the coming of warmer weather, the demand for bikes is shooting up. The dealers again can't keep up with the demand. There were 20 boxes in the Specialized dealer yesterday when I got there. 5 people were actually buying bikes not just looking. Though most of them were kids because that was the only display bikes they still had. Di2 is not only popular but since the change to wireless is only effecting the new levers and the main battery. people won't be too willing to have the newest Di2. Besides, the latest and greatest is 12 gears and EVERYONE is catching on that they're being played.

The weight of the Eddy Merckx Elite looks like it will come out very near the Trek Emonda without working hard at it. The 3T stem and handlebar is quite a bit lighter than the integrated Look bar that is on the Madone I just sold. Carefully looking over the Rock Bros Keo copies gives me the idea that they are made in the same factory that makes the Look Keo standard pedal. They even weight a bit less. The mechanism look like a slight improvement. If you're going to give the Asians your technology you should remember that their engineers are just as good as yours and can and will improve it and sell it cheaper.

I went through the entire gamut of bikes over the last ten years since I recovered. Older carbon fiber like I was originally injured on except for better forks. Steel because it rides SOOO much better, new and newer steel that is so stiff it might as well be new CF, then the absolute top of the line carbon fiber bikes and their strengths and weaknesses. You CANNOT tell quality control of the layup from the outside. You have to depend upon reputation and Hambini did a very good job of showing that there was poor quality in the industry. So back of "almost as light but a HELL of a lot more reliable" aluminum. They are usually too stiff, but now that we are riding 28 mm tires that problem is solved. The difference it made on my Time was breathtaking! With 23 mm you could NOT ride that bike. With 28's it was a dream come true. I should have kept that bike since unlike most carbon fiber bikes it had alternate layups of Kevlar which doesn't tear like carbon fiber may.

And wouldn't you rather pay $1100 for a top of the line Aluminum bike than $12,000 for a carbon bike with Di2? Electric shifting is nice and it is better than manual shifting but it is too little for the extra price and when was manual shifting bad?

I have these carbon fiber saddles that weigh next to nothing. They are maybe 10 grams heavier than some of the slotted and "bendy" saddles. They are just slightly less comfortable than the San Torino. When I was doing long climbs i used to have to stretch my back all the time. Surprisingly, when I started using the slotted saddles that disappeared and my back problems disappeared. Live and learn. And use the cheep Chinese carbon saddles rather than the expensive Italian ones. The saddles are surprisingly comfortable without any padding. I would not have thought that possible.

I am beginning to get inquiries for the two high end carbon bikes with Di2 I have left. Since spring is coming on people will be more and more interested in getting a new super-speed bike. So they ought to go out the door at asking prices.

For the Douglas I just bought a Look fork. They have by a country mile the highest quality control of all CF manufacturers and tis being a new fork I won't have anything at all to worry about for the rest of my life.

I sent a message to Colorado Cyclist which surprisingly to me is still in business. I inquired about a headset for the Vector. They sell pretty damned expensive recessed Cane Creek headsets that I don't remember seeing anywhere else but after a couple of days I haven't got an answer. I'm sue that if they don't have one in stock they can order it. But I guess I'll have to order one after the first of next month when I get a little augmentation of my account. Got a call from my financial advisor today and he intends to sell some small cap funds in a 401 account I have to lock in the profits I made and put it in a large cap fund to be able to make higher rates in the present market.
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Old March 30th 21, 05:38 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 7:28:54 PM UTC-5, wrote:
Douglas was the house brand of Colorado Cyclist when they were a booming business before the Democrats decided to punish business success.

With the coming of warmer weather, the demand for bikes is shooting up. The dealers again can't keep up with the demand.


Got a call from my financial advisor today and he intends to sell some small cap funds in a 401 account I have to lock in the profits I made and put it in a large cap fund to be able to make higher rates in the present market.


So the d-mn Democrats are punishing businesses like Colorado Cyclist. And yet other bike shops cannot keep up with demand and are having to turn away paying customers. ??? So which is it? Are the Democrats, who now control the House, Senate, and President, driving businesses out of business or making businesses so successful they cannot keep up with demand?

So you are selling stocks for a profit and investing the money to earn even higher rates of return. While the Democrats are in control? That doesn't make sense. If the Democrats are in control, shouldn't you be putting everything into cash and hiding it under your bed and buying guns and building a bomb shelter to fight off the attacking zombies and undead? Why/how are you making money while the Democrats are in control? Everything should be losses.
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Old March 30th 21, 05:35 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 9:38:14 PM UTC-7, wrote:
On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 7:28:54 PM UTC-5, wrote:
Douglas was the house brand of Colorado Cyclist when they were a booming business before the Democrats decided to punish business success.

With the coming of warmer weather, the demand for bikes is shooting up. The dealers again can't keep up with the demand.

Got a call from my financial advisor today and he intends to sell some small cap funds in a 401 account I have to lock in the profits I made and put it in a large cap fund to be able to make higher rates in the present market.

So the d-mn Democrats are punishing businesses like Colorado Cyclist. And yet other bike shops cannot keep up with demand and are having to turn away paying customers. ??? So which is it? Are the Democrats, who now control the House, Senate, and President, driving businesses out of business or making businesses so successful they cannot keep up with demand?

So you are selling stocks for a profit and investing the money to earn even higher rates of return. While the Democrats are in control? That doesn't make sense. If the Democrats are in control, shouldn't you be putting everything into cash and hiding it under your bed and buying guns and building a bomb shelter to fight off the attacking zombies and undead? Why/how are you making money while the Democrats are in control? Everything should be losses.

Since you don't live in the USA why are you discussing business conditions here?
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Old March 30th 21, 05:40 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Friday, March 26, 2021 at 10:50:27 AM UTC-7, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Thursday, March 25, 2021 at 4:17:33 PM UTC-7, Tom Kunich wrote:
I was having problems finding the sort of aluminum frame I was looking for, for a price I was willing to pay. Since I am impressed with Felt and they are selling off old stock, it appeared that I was going to have to buy one of those for about $500. Since this is where I stop buying and selling I don't mind paying that. But the catch is that it is a disk bike and I am most definitely not a fan of disks. Neither is a large portion of the pro peloton though they are being sponsored and can't contradict the sponsors. Only Chris Froome feels the freedom to say what he feels.

That would mean that I would have to buy hydraulic levers and disks and actuators. I prefer rim brakes on aluminum wheels.

So I ran across a Douglas in my NORMAL size for less than $200 for frame, California sales tax and shipping.

Douglas was the house brand of Colorado Cyclist when they were a booming business before the Democrats decided to punish business success.

It looks to be everything I am on the market for. A fork can be had for a wave of the hand and if a carbon fiber fork is good enough for Greg Lemond and Eddy Merckx it's good enough for me. An EC90 can be gotten for less than $70 new and you don't need to get a superlight and worry about its strength since the regular fork in only 20 grams heavier than the super-light. Although I have a new set of new set of Fulcrum disk wheels they can be used with rim brakes. They were cheaper than dirt since all carbon is everything today. I have all of the rest of the parts taken from the Look. So cables and handlebar tape is all that is needed. Depending on the position of the stops, maybe not even cables. The handlebar tape is still on the aluminum bar I removed. The cables are still run and from the pictures it appears that the Look stops were further away than that of the Douglas.

With the coming of warmer weather, the demand for bikes is shooting up. The dealers again can't keep up with the demand. There were 20 boxes in the Specialized dealer yesterday when I got there. 5 people were actually buying bikes not just looking. Though most of them were kids because that was the only display bikes they still had. Di2 is not only popular but since the change to wireless is only effecting the new levers and the main battery. people won't be too willing to have the newest Di2. Besides, the latest and greatest is 12 gears and EVERYONE is catching on that they're being played.

The weight of the Eddy Merckx Elite looks like it will come out very near the Trek Emonda without working hard at it. The 3T stem and handlebar is quite a bit lighter than the integrated Look bar that is on the Madone I just sold. Carefully looking over the Rock Bros Keo copies gives me the idea that they are made in the same factory that makes the Look Keo standard pedal. They even weight a bit less. The mechanism look like a slight improvement. If you're going to give the Asians your technology you should remember that their engineers are just as good as yours and can and will improve it and sell it cheaper.

I went through the entire gamut of bikes over the last ten years since I recovered. Older carbon fiber like I was originally injured on except for better forks. Steel because it rides SOOO much better, new and newer steel that is so stiff it might as well be new CF, then the absolute top of the line carbon fiber bikes and their strengths and weaknesses. You CANNOT tell quality control of the layup from the outside. You have to depend upon reputation and Hambini did a very good job of showing that there was poor quality in the industry. So back of "almost as light but a HELL of a lot more reliable" aluminum. They are usually too stiff, but now that we are riding 28 mm tires that problem is solved. The difference it made on my Time was breathtaking! With 23 mm you could NOT ride that bike. With 28's it was a dream come true. I should have kept that bike since unlike most carbon fiber bikes it had alternate layups of Kevlar which doesn't tear like carbon fiber may.

And wouldn't you rather pay $1100 for a top of the line Aluminum bike than $12,000 for a carbon bike with Di2? Electric shifting is nice and it is better than manual shifting but it is too little for the extra price and when was manual shifting bad?

I have these carbon fiber saddles that weigh next to nothing. They are maybe 10 grams heavier than some of the slotted and "bendy" saddles. They are just slightly less comfortable than the San Torino. When I was doing long climbs i used to have to stretch my back all the time. Surprisingly, when I started using the slotted saddles that disappeared and my back problems disappeared. Live and learn. And use the cheep Chinese carbon saddles rather than the expensive Italian ones. The saddles are surprisingly comfortable without any padding. I would not have thought that possible.

I am beginning to get inquiries for the two high end carbon bikes with Di2 I have left. Since spring is coming on people will be more and more interested in getting a new super-speed bike. So they ought to go out the door at asking prices.

For the Douglas I just bought a Look fork. They have by a country mile the highest quality control of all CF manufacturers and tis being a new fork I won't have anything at all to worry about for the rest of my life.

Colorado Cyclist didn't respond to the email I sent asking for a rather expensive Cane Creek headset. They it turned out that I sent it in the "feedback" box. So today I sent it to the regular sales email. This is sort of an odd completely flush lower headset so they might have to special order it. I'll see how that all works out. Cane Creek makes good parts and the bike appears to have been designed specifically for that sort of headset. I would prefer not to use Chinese or FSA copies.
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Old March 30th 21, 06:27 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On 3/30/2021 12:35 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 9:38:14 PM UTC-7, wrote:
On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 7:28:54 PM UTC-5, wrote:
Douglas was the house brand of Colorado Cyclist when they were a booming business before the Democrats decided to punish business success.

With the coming of warmer weather, the demand for bikes is shooting up. The dealers again can't keep up with the demand.
Got a call from my financial advisor today and he intends to sell some small cap funds in a 401 account I have to lock in the profits I made and put it in a large cap fund to be able to make higher rates in the present market.

So the d-mn Democrats are punishing businesses like Colorado Cyclist. And yet other bike shops cannot keep up with demand and are having to turn away paying customers. ??? So which is it? Are the Democrats, who now control the House, Senate, and President, driving businesses out of business or making businesses so successful they cannot keep up with demand?

So you are selling stocks for a profit and investing the money to earn even higher rates of return. While the Democrats are in control? That doesn't make sense. If the Democrats are in control, shouldn't you be putting everything into cash and hiding it under your bed and buying guns and building a bomb shelter to fight off the attacking zombies and undead? Why/how are you making money while the Democrats are in control? Everything should be losses.

Since you don't live in the USA why are you discussing business conditions here?


Tom, to have even a smidgen of credibility, you'd have had to tell Jute
that about 50 times.


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Old March 30th 21, 07:03 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Tuesday, March 30, 2021 at 11:35:12 AM UTC-5, wrote:
On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 9:38:14 PM UTC-7, wrote:
On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 7:28:54 PM UTC-5, wrote:
Douglas was the house brand of Colorado Cyclist when they were a booming business before the Democrats decided to punish business success.

With the coming of warmer weather, the demand for bikes is shooting up. The dealers again can't keep up with the demand.
Got a call from my financial advisor today and he intends to sell some small cap funds in a 401 account I have to lock in the profits I made and put it in a large cap fund to be able to make higher rates in the present market.

So the d-mn Democrats are punishing businesses like Colorado Cyclist. And yet other bike shops cannot keep up with demand and are having to turn away paying customers. ??? So which is it? Are the Democrats, who now control the House, Senate, and President, driving businesses out of business or making businesses so successful they cannot keep up with demand?

So you are selling stocks for a profit and investing the money to earn even higher rates of return. While the Democrats are in control? That doesn't make sense. If the Democrats are in control, shouldn't you be putting everything into cash and hiding it under your bed and buying guns and building a bomb shelter to fight off the attacking zombies and undead? Why/how are you making money while the Democrats are in control? Everything should be losses.


Since you don't live in the USA why are you discussing business conditions here?


???? Apparently you have confused me with someone else. You live in California. California became a state on September 9, 1850. I'm surprised California gained statehood that early. I live in Iowa. Its pretty close to the middle of the contiguous USA. Just in case you did not know. Iowa became a state on December 28, 1846. About four years before your state became a state.

Regarding your questioning why I am discussing business conditions in the USA if I do not live there. Why is that pertinent? I am not in the military in the USA but I think discussing USA military ventures is entirely appropriate. No I do not think it is appropriate for me to discuss how to carry out actual combat missions or directives. But more general mattters are appropriate. Such as whether we should attack another country. I do not own a automobile. But I think it is appropriate for me to talk about autos. I'm not an elected official but think it is appropriate for me to discuss the operations of elected officials in the USA. I do own financial instruments in the USA. And am very comfortable discussing financial matters as they pertain to me, my country, and the entire world. I'm not Chinese. But am willing to discuss how their business operations and political decisions affect me.
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Old March 30th 21, 07:52 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Tuesday, March 30, 2021 at 9:40:26 AM UTC-7, wrote:
On Friday, March 26, 2021 at 10:50:27 AM UTC-7, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Thursday, March 25, 2021 at 4:17:33 PM UTC-7, Tom Kunich wrote:
I was having problems finding the sort of aluminum frame I was looking for, for a price I was willing to pay. Since I am impressed with Felt and they are selling off old stock, it appeared that I was going to have to buy one of those for about $500. Since this is where I stop buying and selling I don't mind paying that. But the catch is that it is a disk bike and I am most definitely not a fan of disks. Neither is a large portion of the pro peloton though they are being sponsored and can't contradict the sponsors. Only Chris Froome feels the freedom to say what he feels.

That would mean that I would have to buy hydraulic levers and disks and actuators. I prefer rim brakes on aluminum wheels.

So I ran across a Douglas in my NORMAL size for less than $200 for frame, California sales tax and shipping.

Douglas was the house brand of Colorado Cyclist when they were a booming business before the Democrats decided to punish business success.

It looks to be everything I am on the market for. A fork can be had for a wave of the hand and if a carbon fiber fork is good enough for Greg Lemond and Eddy Merckx it's good enough for me. An EC90 can be gotten for less than $70 new and you don't need to get a superlight and worry about its strength since the regular fork in only 20 grams heavier than the super-light. Although I have a new set of new set of Fulcrum disk wheels they can be used with rim brakes. They were cheaper than dirt since all carbon is everything today. I have all of the rest of the parts taken from the Look. So cables and handlebar tape is all that is needed. Depending on the position of the stops, maybe not even cables. The handlebar tape is still on the aluminum bar I removed. The cables are still run and from the pictures it appears that the Look stops were further away than that of the Douglas.

With the coming of warmer weather, the demand for bikes is shooting up. The dealers again can't keep up with the demand. There were 20 boxes in the Specialized dealer yesterday when I got there. 5 people were actually buying bikes not just looking. Though most of them were kids because that was the only display bikes they still had. Di2 is not only popular but since the change to wireless is only effecting the new levers and the main battery. people won't be too willing to have the newest Di2. Besides, the latest and greatest is 12 gears and EVERYONE is catching on that they're being played.

The weight of the Eddy Merckx Elite looks like it will come out very near the Trek Emonda without working hard at it. The 3T stem and handlebar is quite a bit lighter than the integrated Look bar that is on the Madone I just sold. Carefully looking over the Rock Bros Keo copies gives me the idea that they are made in the same factory that makes the Look Keo standard pedal. They even weight a bit less. The mechanism look like a slight improvement. If you're going to give the Asians your technology you should remember that their engineers are just as good as yours and can and will improve it and sell it cheaper.

I went through the entire gamut of bikes over the last ten years since I recovered. Older carbon fiber like I was originally injured on except for better forks. Steel because it rides SOOO much better, new and newer steel that is so stiff it might as well be new CF, then the absolute top of the line carbon fiber bikes and their strengths and weaknesses. You CANNOT tell quality control of the layup from the outside. You have to depend upon reputation and Hambini did a very good job of showing that there was poor quality in the industry. So back of "almost as light but a HELL of a lot more reliable" aluminum. They are usually too stiff, but now that we are riding 28 mm tires that problem is solved. The difference it made on my Time was breathtaking! With 23 mm you could NOT ride that bike. With 28's it was a dream come true. I should have kept that bike since unlike most carbon fiber bikes it had alternate layups of Kevlar which doesn't tear like carbon fiber may.

And wouldn't you rather pay $1100 for a top of the line Aluminum bike than $12,000 for a carbon bike with Di2? Electric shifting is nice and it is better than manual shifting but it is too little for the extra price and when was manual shifting bad?

I have these carbon fiber saddles that weigh next to nothing. They are maybe 10 grams heavier than some of the slotted and "bendy" saddles. They are just slightly less comfortable than the San Torino. When I was doing long climbs i used to have to stretch my back all the time. Surprisingly, when I started using the slotted saddles that disappeared and my back problems disappeared. Live and learn. And use the cheep Chinese carbon saddles rather than the expensive Italian ones. The saddles are surprisingly comfortable without any padding. I would not have thought that possible.

I am beginning to get inquiries for the two high end carbon bikes with Di2 I have left. Since spring is coming on people will be more and more interested in getting a new super-speed bike. So they ought to go out the door at asking prices.

For the Douglas I just bought a Look fork. They have by a country mile the highest quality control of all CF manufacturers and tis being a new fork I won't have anything at all to worry about for the rest of my life.

Colorado Cyclist didn't respond to the email I sent asking for a rather expensive Cane Creek headset. They it turned out that I sent it in the "feedback" box. So today I sent it to the regular sales email. This is sort of an odd completely flush lower headset so they might have to special order it.. I'll see how that all works out. Cane Creek makes good parts and the bike appears to have been designed specifically for that sort of headset. I would prefer not to use Chinese or FSA copies.


What do you mean by "odd completely flush lower headset"? Pick one: https://www.parktool.com/blog/repair...dset-standards Is it one of these bikes (Douglass Fusion)?: https://store.bicycleczar.com/60cm-D...p/11160367.htm

If so, it has an integrated headset, which are as common as fleas. Are you going down another rabbit hole?

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On Tue, 30 Mar 2021 09:35:09 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
wrote:

On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 9:38:14 PM UTC-7, wrote:
On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 7:28:54 PM UTC-5, wrote:
Douglas was the house brand of Colorado Cyclist when they were a booming business before the Democrats decided to punish business success.

With the coming of warmer weather, the demand for bikes is shooting up. The dealers again can't keep up with the demand.
Got a call from my financial advisor today and he intends to sell some small cap funds in a 401 account I have to lock in the profits I made and put it in a large cap fund to be able to make higher rates in the present market.

So the d-mn Democrats are punishing businesses like Colorado Cyclist. And yet other bike shops cannot keep up with demand and are having to turn away paying customers. ??? So which is it? Are the Democrats, who now control the House, Senate, and President, driving businesses out of business or making businesses so successful they cannot keep up with demand?

So you are selling stocks for a profit and investing the money to earn even higher rates of return. While the Democrats are in control? That doesn't make sense. If the Democrats are in control, shouldn't you be putting everything into cash and hiding it under your bed and buying guns and building a bomb shelter to fight off the attacking zombies and undead? Why/how are you making money while the Democrats are in control? Everything should be losses.

Since you don't live in the USA why are you discussing business conditions here?


Why ever not Tommy? After all the U.S. stock market is not closed to
foreigners. In 2019 foreigners owned some $8.63 trillion worth of U.S.
equities through the end of the second quarter of 2019, which is the
equivalent of 35.3% of the total market capitalization of the S&P 500.
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Cheers,

John B.

 




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