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Practice what you preach?
On Friday, November 16, 2018 at 9:01:35 AM UTC, TMS320 wrote:
On 15/11/2018 09:52, Peter Keller wrote: On 11/14/18 11:07 PM, True Blue wrote: Hmmm...try this:- https://m.facebook.com/story.php?sto...284529 597371 Thanks. That works. Personally when coming up behind a horse I slow down and ring the bell well in advance, and try to give the horse a wide berth. It is safer also for me to pass outside kicking range. And the horse has plenty of notice that I am there because of the bell, even if the rider did not hear it. I am not sure what the reaction to a bell would be. Voice might be more recognisable to the horse? Anyway, I usually ask the horsist whether it is ok to go past. I use a bell. I only ever ride alone or with Mrs, on an old railway line that's used by quite a lot of horses. The riders are always grateful for the notice. Some of the lycra crowd just don't bother. |
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On 16/11/2018 09:21, True Blue wrote:
On Friday, November 16, 2018 at 9:01:35 AM UTC, TMS320 wrote: On 15/11/2018 09:52, Peter Keller wrote: On 11/14/18 11:07 PM, True Blue wrote: Hmmm...try this:- https://m.facebook.com/story.php?sto...284529 597371 Thanks. That works. Personally when coming up behind a horse I slow down and ring the bell well in advance, and try to give the horse a wide berth. It is safer also for me to pass outside kicking range. And the horse has plenty of notice that I am there because of the bell, even if the rider did not hear it. I am not sure what the reaction to a bell would be. Voice might be more recognisable to the horse? Anyway, I usually ask the horsist whether it is ok to go past. I use a bell. I only ever ride alone or with Mrs, on an old railway line that's used by quite a lot of horses. The riders are always grateful for the notice. They might be used to a bell in that case. I use country roads where they may be less familiar. I hope that my interaction gives some indication to them that they are not "in the way" and I don't mind slowing down. Some of the lycra crowd just don't bother. But do they preach something they don't practice? |
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On 16/11/2018 09:01, TMS320 wrote:
On 15/11/2018 09:52, Peter Keller wrote: On 11/14/18 11:07 PM, True Blue wrote: Hmmm...try this:- https://m.facebook.com/story.php?sto...284529 597371 Thanks. That works. Personally when coming up behind a horse I slow down and ring the bell well in advance, and try to give the horse a wide berth. It is safer also for me to pass outside kicking range. And the horse has plenty of notice that I am there because of the bell, even if the rider did not hear it. I am not sure what the reaction to a bell would be. Voice might be more recognisable to the horse? I shout "cyclist behind", to my mind the horse recognises the voice as human where as a bell... . Merely "cyclist behind" is meant to imply (to the rider) that I am there but not demanding to pass (I feel a bell is a bit clamouring Though I do use one on people on their own). Usually the result is the rider looking behind them waving me on and a cheery wave. Everyone is enjoying the outdoors. |
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On 17/11/2018 13:52, soup wrote:
On 16/11/2018 09:01, TMS320 wrote: On 15/11/2018 09:52, Peter Keller wrote: On 11/14/18 11:07 PM, True Blue wrote: Hmmm...try this:- https://m.facebook.com/story.php?sto...284529 597371 Thanks. That works. Personally when coming up behind a horse I slow down and ring the bell well in advance, and try to give the horse a wide berth. It is safer also for me to pass outside kicking range. And the horse has plenty of notice that I am there because of the bell, even if the rider did not hear it. I am not sure what the reaction to a bell would be. Voice might be more recognisable to the horse? I shout "cyclist behind", to my mind the horse recognises the voice as Â*human where as a bell... . Merely "cyclist behind" is meant toÂ* imply (to the rider) that I am there but not demanding to pass (I feel a bell is a bit clamouring Though I do use one on people on their own). I once had a "that's better than a bell" in response to my "hello". I sometimes ride with someone that has a noisy Campag freewheel (Shimano are so much more pleasant). He has a theory that the horse might associate it with an unfamiliar insect so he keeps the pedals idling. The thing about a voice is that it is inherently short range and to communicate without sounding shouty requires the approach to be made at very low speed. People using mechanical noise makers usually seem to assume the message can be received, source recognised and action carried out in about 20ms. Usually the result is the rider looking behind them waving me on and a cheery wave. Everyone is enjoying the outdoors. Indeed. |
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On 17/11/2018 13:52, soup wrote:
On 16/11/2018 09:01, TMS320 wrote: On 15/11/2018 09:52, Peter Keller wrote: On 11/14/18 11:07 PM, True Blue wrote: Hmmm...try this:- https://m.facebook.com/story.php?sto...284529 597371 Thanks. That works. Personally when coming up behind a horse I slow down and ring the bell well in advance, and try to give the horse a wide berth. It is safer also for me to pass outside kicking range. And the horse has plenty of notice that I am there because of the bell, even if the rider did not hear it. I am not sure what the reaction to a bell would be. Voice might be more recognisable to the horse? I shout "cyclist behind", Odd coincidence, I shout "cyclist, arsehole" (that is the usual connotation after the first word.) One can of course precede that with 'bloody' to ensure that everyone will understand. |
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MrCheerful wrote:
On 17/11/2018 13:52, soup wrote: On 16/11/2018 09:01, TMS320 wrote: On 15/11/2018 09:52, Peter Keller wrote: On 11/14/18 11:07 PM, True Blue wrote: Hmmm...try this:- https://m.facebook.com/story.php?sto...284529 597371 Thanks. That works. Personally when coming up behind a horse I slow down and ring the bell well in advance, and try to give the horse a wide berth. It is safer also for me to pass outside kicking range. And the horse has plenty of notice that I am there because of the bell, even if the rider did not hear it. I am not sure what the reaction to a bell would be. Voice might be more recognisable to the horse? I shout "cyclist behind", Odd coincidence, I shout "cyclist, arsehole" (that is the usual connotation after the first word.) One can of course precede that with 'bloody' to ensure that everyone will understand. Should some arsehole on a bicycle ring a silly bell at me, the arsehole gets a face full of screenwash. But they get that every time I overtake one of these ******s. |
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On Saturday, November 17, 2018 at 3:13:11 PM UTC, TMS320 wrote:
I sometimes ride with someone that has a noisy Campag freewheel (Shimano are so much more pleasant). He has a theory that the horse might associate it with an unfamiliar insect so he keeps the pedals idling. I have a pair of Campag Shamals and the noise from the hub when I used dual use paths ensured that I was always heard from behind. I always thanked people for allowing me through. |
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On Sat, 17 Nov 2018 15:50:20 GMT, "Mr Pounder Esquire"
wrote: [] Should some arsehole on a bicycle ring a silly bell at me, the arsehole gets a face full of screenwash. But they get that every time I overtake one of these ******s. Get help, your hate will destroy you. -- Bah, and indeed, Humbug. |
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On 11/18/18 10:37 AM, Kerr-Mudd,John wrote:
On Sat, 17 Nov 2018 15:50:20 GMT, "Mr Pounder Esquire" wrote: [] Should some arsehole on a bicycle ring a silly bell at me, the arsehole gets a face full of screenwash. But they get that every time I overtake one of these ******s. Get help, your hate will destroy you. And it gets done for assault. ****ing criminal. Threatening or actual physical violence against others is assault, even if it is against arseholes and ******s. |
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On Saturday, November 17, 2018 at 3:50:39 PM UTC, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
MrCheerful wrote: On 17/11/2018 13:52, soup wrote: On 16/11/2018 09:01, TMS320 wrote: On 15/11/2018 09:52, Peter Keller wrote: On 11/14/18 11:07 PM, True Blue wrote: Hmmm...try this:- https://m.facebook.com/story.php?sto...284529 597371 Thanks. That works. Personally when coming up behind a horse I slow down and ring the bell well in advance, and try to give the horse a wide berth. It is safer also for me to pass outside kicking range. And the horse has plenty of notice that I am there because of the bell, even if the rider did not hear it. I am not sure what the reaction to a bell would be. Voice might be more recognisable to the horse? I shout "cyclist behind", Odd coincidence, I shout "cyclist, arsehole" (that is the usual connotation after the first word.) One can of course precede that with 'bloody' to ensure that everyone will understand. Should some arsehole on a bicycle ring a silly bell at me, the arsehole gets a face full of screenwash. Your horse has a windscreen?? But they get that every time I overtake one of these ******s. |
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