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On Fri, 25 May 2018 22:24:14 +0200, Emanuel Berg
wrote: jbeattie writes: Touring bikes are common as fleas. Even the Trek 520 fits the bill. https://www.trekbikes.com/us/en_US/b...olorCode=black Up to 44C without mudguards. You would have to add CX levers and a dyno light. Great only too expensive, especially compared to the Fuji and in particular the amount of money in my wallet. Why do they do randonneurs with 32 tires anyway?! Comfort, for one thing. The standard brevet lengths are 200, 300, 400, 600, 1000 and 1200 km. All with time limits, checkpoints, etc. The extra comfort afforded by the larger tires becomes very helpful after 8, 10, 50 hours in the saddle. Pinch flat protection, for another thing. Middle of the night, middle of nowhere, fatigue, not reacting to that pothole or pavement seam in time... |
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writes: Too expensive??? The cross brake levers Ralph's bike. -- underground experts exiled |
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Tim McNamara writes:
Great only too expensive, especially compared to the Fuji and in particular the amount of money in my wallet. Why do they do randonneurs with 32 tires anyway?! Comfort, for one thing. The standard brevet lengths are 200, 300, 400, 600, 1000 and 1200 km. All with time limits, checkpoints, etc. The extra comfort afforded by the larger tires becomes very helpful after 8, 10, 50 hours in the saddle. Ha ha Definitely. But why not 40 or 47 tires then? They are not that much slower/heavier or less aero than 32 and even more comfortable. Especially with a loaded bike I think 32 is too thin. But if that's the way it is I'm not letting it stop me from going, of course. -- underground experts exiled |
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Radey Shouman wrote:
jbeattie writes: Shockingly, the vaunted Koga signature World Traveler is made out of 6061 like my old Cannondale T1000. That was a great touring bike, although it wouldn't fit giant tires -- but I never wanted giant tires. That article draws interesting distinctions between true touring bikes and randonettes, which, according to Tim, should be the Randonneuse. "Randonette" sounds like something Harvey Weinstein would think up To the uninitiated, err... non cycle-touring public, a public ad "Looking to buy a randonneuse for personal use, will pay $$$$Amount" already looks at least as "suspicious" as a forgotten backpack in Milwaukee. |
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Sepp Ruf writes:
To the uninitiated, err... non cycle-touring public, a public ad "Looking to buy a randonneuse for personal use, will pay $$$$Amount" already looks at least as "suspicious" as a forgotten backpack in Milwaukee. Very clever! But regardless of whatever, I've read "randonneur" in at least two books by now and it is also the name (part of the name) of the bike mentioned in the original post, "TX-Randonneur Shimano 105 30-Speed". [1] [1] https://www.fahrradmanufaktur.de/en/...andonneur-2017 -- underground experts exiled |
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Emanuel Berg wrote:
[rando-???] But regardless of whatever, I've read "randonneur" in at least two books by now and it is also the name (part of the name) of the bike mentioned in the original post, "TX-Randonneur Shimano 105 30-Speed". [1] [1] https://www.fahrradmanufaktur.de/en/...andonneur-2017 Well, they also equip it with the special Shimano "HALLOWtech" component. Scientifically conducted Ebay statistics show that only French (Motobecane) bikes will be called randonneuse in Fahrradmanufaktur-land: https://www.ebay-kleinanzeigen.de/s-randonneur/k0 vs. https://www.ebay-kleinanzeigen.de/s-randonneuse/k0 -- -esse, from Old French -ece, from Latin -itiam, the accusative of -itia. Suffix used to form nouns describing the condition of being something (-ness, -ity, etc.) Example: "Charlotte's amazing Frenchesse" |
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Ralph Barone writes:
36 spoke wheels The Fuji bike also has 36 spoke wheels, or as they put it, it has Vera Terra DPM18, double wall, 36/36h, Shimano Deore hubs [1] That sounds straightforward only why do they say "36" twice? To say there are 36 holes on the hub as well? Makes sense, right? OTOH the VSF has Exal MX19, Aluminium hollow section rim, double eyed [2] What does hollow section rim mean? The same as double wall? And what is double eyed? The position of the holes are not in the middle of the rim but one a little to the left, the other a little to the right? But aren't all rims that way nowadays? Or am I wrong? The rim cross sections I can find in my books are the V-section, the box section, the sprint, and the "aero-sprint" (look like the sprint only a V-shape to the south and north). I take it from the illos the V-section and box section are double walled? [1] http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/s.../rp-prod166407 [2] https://www.fahrradmanufaktur.de/en/...andonneur-2017 -- underground experts exiled |
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The Fuji bike also has 36 spoke wheels, or as they put it, it has Vera Terra DPM18, double wall, 36/36h, Shimano Deore hubs [1] That sounds straightforward only why do they say "36" twice? To say there are 36 holes on the hub as well? Makes sense, right? Or do they mean the front/rear wheel? Perhaps someone got the idea to reinforce the rear wheel with more spokes than the front ditto, e.g. to have 36 rear and 32 front (or 28/32). Then you could write the bike has 32/36h rims - practical! Perhaps for randonneuring/heavy touring one would even want 40 or 48 spokes on the rear wheel? -- underground experts exiled |
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On 5/27/2018 6:52 AM, Emanuel Berg wrote:
The Fuji bike also has 36 spoke wheels, or as they put it, it has Vera Terra DPM18, double wall, 36/36h, Shimano Deore hubs [1] That sounds straightforward only why do they say "36" twice? To say there are 36 holes on the hub as well? Makes sense, right? Or do they mean the front/rear wheel? Perhaps someone got the idea to reinforce the rear wheel with more spokes than the front ditto, e.g. to have 36 rear and 32 front (or 28/32). Then you could write the bike has 32/36h rims - practical! Perhaps for randonneuring/heavy touring one would even want 40 or 48 spokes on the rear wheel? Back when the Earth was young, The Ancients discovered that 32h front/40h rear is as close to perfect as one might imagine. Adds some niggling cost and therefore abandoned. -- Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org/ Open every day since 1 April, 1971 |
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