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Old February 20th 04, 12:03 PM
Thomas
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Who the hell does he think he is ? The fashion police ? He is an
idiot. The Times are idiots for publishing this crap.


As I wrote in my reply to Helen, it's a sad truth - the majority of
****e cyclists in london have all the gear. Thinking about my fall a
couple of days ago, I'm not that surprised no-one helped - I was
fully lycra'd up, and I've certainly seen more than a few equally
lycra-sporting louts have incidents with pedestrians.

Tom.



But it is still wrong and offensive to label all cyclists who wear pro

gear
in cities as louts.


But he's not doing that, because he clearly states his article is aimed at
just those that abuse the roads. With the majority of people abusing the
roads wearing lycra, it's a fair assumption to make IMHO.

I have seen plently of louts driving Saxos or Corsas around here but I am
not labelling all Saxo and Corsa drivers as louts.


Heh, but what about those who drive BMWs?

Do you think you would have received help had you been wearing civvies ?
Don't blame yourself for others being too ignorant to help you.


To be honest, I'm not sure - I think it's more a London selective seeing
thing, but meh, any old excuse.

Tom.


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Old February 20th 04, 12:16 PM
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On Fri, 20 Feb 2004 09:58:34 +0000, dirtylitterboxofferingstospammers
wrote:


Indeed. In my letter to the Times in response (which I doubt will be
published)...


Nor will be mine, I'm afraid...

-----------

Dear Sirs,

while I understand -or hope- that the moronic tones of Mr. Whitworth's
article ("Save us from the cycle menace", 18/02/2004) are little more than
a provocation, I would like to point out that an authoritative paper like
the Times could do much better than publish the opinionated drivel of a
self-admitted idiot motoraholic - one who can't even see whether he's
driving on the correct lane or parking in the right spot.

Apart from his very personal opinion that, since he dislikes cycling,
whoever uses a cycle must have some kind of mental problem, he simply
brings anecdotal evidence of the "fact" that cyclists are dangerous to
pedestrians. Any cyclist could bring far more detailed evidence of how
dangerous motorists are - and could someone ask him how many pedestrians
have been killed or injured in London by cyclists, and how many by
motorists?

Since you're at it, you could ask him for another article on the benefits
of passive smoking, and perhaps one on the undeniable scientific basis of
astrology. I'm sure he knows someone whose personal astrologist always
gets it right.

Eugenio Mastroviti

P.S. One can't help but wonder, if this person strayed "unwittingly" into
a well-visible bus lane, can we really be sure he won't stray
(unwittingly, of course) into a family of 5, or something like that? I
mean, Mr. Whitworth, if you live anywere near Finchley, please let me know
what model of car you "drive" - and I use the term in the loosest possible
way.

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Old February 20th 04, 12:17 PM
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Thomas wrote:
Who the hell does he think he is ? The fashion police ? He is an
idiot. The Times are idiots for publishing this crap.

As I wrote in my reply to Helen, it's a sad truth - the majority of
****e cyclists in london have all the gear. Thinking about my fall a
couple of days ago, I'm not that surprised no-one helped - I was
fully lycra'd up, and I've certainly seen more than a few equally
lycra-sporting louts have incidents with pedestrians.

Tom.



But it is still wrong and offensive to label all cyclists who wear
pro gear in cities as louts.


But he's not doing that, because he clearly states his article is
aimed at just those that abuse the roads. With the majority of people
abusing the roads wearing lycra, it's a fair assumption to make IMHO.



Maybe so but he suggests fines for wearers of lycra in built up areas,
fashion cameras will not be able to distinguish those abusing the roads as
well as the apparel regulations. :-)



Heh, but what about those who drive BMWs?


Don't get me started about drivers of German cars. :-)


To be honest, I'm not sure - I think it's more a London selective
seeing thing, but meh, any old excuse.


Leave those folk in London, I experienced four years in the Capital, cycled
through the West End nearly everyday (not wearing lyrca in the week I might
add) and I know now where I prefer to be.

martin

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Old February 20th 04, 12:23 PM
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Nor will be mine, I'm afraid...

Pity, it's a good one :-)

What gets me about the original article is the fact the guy admits to being an
effectively p*sspoor driver who can't park properly and isn't aware of being in
a bus lane (like they are *so* narrow, *so* uncommon and *so* unmarked...),
gets fined and fumes over the supposed unfairness of being caught out being an
idiot and *possibly* a danger to others by having doing a "Please Miss, but
what those nasty people over there are doing is much worse than what I did! So
why did I have to be told off!" complete with a metaphoric stamping of feet and
pouting of lower lip.

If he acted like an adult & accepted that what he did was wrong and got on with
it without moaning about being caught, I may have has some respect for him -
people do make mistakes - as it is, I have none.

Cheers, helen s


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Old February 20th 04, 12:41 PM
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David Off wrote:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/printFr...005150,00.html


Ah the Times.... bless 'em, home of the Middle Aged Heart Attack.


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Old February 20th 04, 01:52 PM
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On 20 Feb 2004 00:59:46 -0800 someone who may be
(David Off) wrote this:-

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/printFr...005150,00.html

Which produces the following:

Your browser is currently not set up to accept cookies.
To register with Times Online you will have to enable cookies
on your browser.


I don't think this has anything to do with cycling, but perhaps it
is some sort of energy bar from North America.


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Old February 20th 04, 02:07 PM
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'There is not time here to examine why the raving cyclist feels the nee
to dress up in Lycra body suits and silly glasses in order to commute t
the office. Let him or her pedal off to a shrink where he can explor
the reasons for his perversion at his own leisure and expense.

I'll examine it for you then Damien. Maybe this cyclist is doing wha
millions of car drivers should do. Cycle to work. Maybe he feels tha
there is enough pollution and noise in our cities caused by ca
drivers. Whats wrong with wearing sunglasses? Don't you ever feel th
need to wear them when the sun is low down. Anyway, you seem to hav
enough time to watch him from your car, no doubt you are stuck in
traffic jam. Or, could you be jealous that he can get to work quicke
than you. Could this be the reason you 'strayed' into a bus lane. Wer
you trying to catch him up


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Old February 20th 04, 02:28 PM
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David Off wrote:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/printFr...005150,00.html



As a pedestrian in London, the article & especially:

"As a pedestrian I have never been hit by a car. But in recent weeks I have
escaped a collision with numerous demented cyclists only because of my own
evasive action"

strikes many a chord. Ref my post here last week about a tw*t outside my
daughter's school who almost hit me and recent posts about stealth cyclists
and idiot youffs forcing an emergency stop.

I'm happy that the article does not apply to me as a cyclist in London as I
cycle on the road, not on the pavement, not the wrong way down one way
streets and I do obey traffic lights and other rules of the road.

Clearly the author does not understand the need for breathable, stretchy
clothing or eye protection but that error does not detract from the many
sound points made in the article. The gist of which may be summed up as:

The idiots who cycle illegally and without respect for pedestrians and
other road users give all cyclists a bad name

pk




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Old February 20th 04, 02:37 PM
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PK wrote:
The idiots who cycle illegally and without respect for pedestrians and
other road users give all cyclists a bad name

pk


or

The idiots who use the road illegally and without respect for
pedestrians and other road users give all road users a bad name

Does'nt work really. Best to isolate single groups. I blame illegal
immigrants.
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Old February 20th 04, 03:27 PM
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"PK" wrote in message
...

As a pedestrian in London

....

I'm happy that the article does not apply to me as a cyclist in London

....
The idiots who cycle illegally and without respect for pedestrians and
other road users give all cyclists a bad name


You miss out another key point. IN LONDON.

Its far less of an issue everywhere else. But what do you expect from
jounalists.


 




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