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Bikes on footpaths - damn...
"Tim Jones" wrote in message
. au... As a regular footpath cyclist (with my 6YO son) I give walkers warning and a wide berth. At low speed, there should be no real problems! Tim Likewise. I give plenty of time so they know I'm there and then _I_ move out of _their_ way; I don't expect them to move out of my way at all. By the way, I'm hardly a "Lycra-clad cyclist" I wear jeans and an old shirt - don't like too much sun and don't like being cut up by branches etc. I ride slowly (15km/h at most) and on the outside edge of the path so I _don't_ hit pedestrians. I'm courteous, friendly and polite to a fault. -- Alan Erskine alanerskine(at)optusnet.com.au Trial or release, Mr Bush, trial or release. |
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"Tim Jones" wrote in message
. au... As a regular footpath cyclist (with my 6YO son) I give walkers warning and a wide berth. At low speed, there should be no real problems! Tim Likewise. I give plenty of time so they know I'm there and then _I_ move out of _their_ way; I don't expect them to move out of my way at all. By the way, I'm hardly a "Lycra-clad cyclist" I wear jeans and an old shirt - don't like too much sun and don't like being cut up by branches etc. I ride slowly (15km/h at most) and on the outside edge of the path so I _don't_ hit pedestrians. I'm courteous, friendly and polite to a fault. -- Alan Erskine alanerskine(at)optusnet.com.au Trial or release, Mr Bush, trial or release. |
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"David Trudgett" wrote
Making it illegal to ride a bicycle on a footpath, full stop, doesn't stop an ar**hole bowling over grandma at the pedestrian crossing. It doesn't do anything besides kill more cyclists. Well, I'm too young to die! (Who isn't?) You don't need to be a rocket scientist to work out where it would be safer for everybody (you, the motorists, and the pedestrians) to ride cautiously on a footpath than to ride on the road pi**ing motorists off because you're getting in their way, lane hogging, or whatever. Like I said, it's not rocket science. What we have an obligation to do is the *right thing* by others and by yourself. If the *right thing* doesn't happen to be legal, well tough^H^H^H^H^H obey the law, of course. I'm not trying to pick on you specifically David but there have been some really stupid (IMHO) things said in this thread in favour of riding on the footpath. Suppose I think it is very dangerous and get nervous driving my car on the road with traffic, is it OK for me to take to the foot-path? I promise I wont go over 15 km/h and I'll be very cautious. Bicycles are traffic. Ride on the road or park it. Stay off the foot-path. Theo |
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"David Trudgett" wrote
Making it illegal to ride a bicycle on a footpath, full stop, doesn't stop an ar**hole bowling over grandma at the pedestrian crossing. It doesn't do anything besides kill more cyclists. Well, I'm too young to die! (Who isn't?) You don't need to be a rocket scientist to work out where it would be safer for everybody (you, the motorists, and the pedestrians) to ride cautiously on a footpath than to ride on the road pi**ing motorists off because you're getting in their way, lane hogging, or whatever. Like I said, it's not rocket science. What we have an obligation to do is the *right thing* by others and by yourself. If the *right thing* doesn't happen to be legal, well tough^H^H^H^H^H obey the law, of course. I'm not trying to pick on you specifically David but there have been some really stupid (IMHO) things said in this thread in favour of riding on the footpath. Suppose I think it is very dangerous and get nervous driving my car on the road with traffic, is it OK for me to take to the foot-path? I promise I wont go over 15 km/h and I'll be very cautious. Bicycles are traffic. Ride on the road or park it. Stay off the foot-path. Theo |
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"David Trudgett" wrote
Making it illegal to ride a bicycle on a footpath, full stop, doesn't stop an ar**hole bowling over grandma at the pedestrian crossing. It doesn't do anything besides kill more cyclists. Well, I'm too young to die! (Who isn't?) You don't need to be a rocket scientist to work out where it would be safer for everybody (you, the motorists, and the pedestrians) to ride cautiously on a footpath than to ride on the road pi**ing motorists off because you're getting in their way, lane hogging, or whatever. Like I said, it's not rocket science. What we have an obligation to do is the *right thing* by others and by yourself. If the *right thing* doesn't happen to be legal, well tough^H^H^H^H^H obey the law, of course. I'm not trying to pick on you specifically David but there have been some really stupid (IMHO) things said in this thread in favour of riding on the footpath. Suppose I think it is very dangerous and get nervous driving my car on the road with traffic, is it OK for me to take to the foot-path? I promise I wont go over 15 km/h and I'll be very cautious. Bicycles are traffic. Ride on the road or park it. Stay off the foot-path. Theo |
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Theo Bekkers wrote in message
... "David Trudgett" wrote Making it illegal to ride a bicycle on a footpath, full stop, doesn't stop an ar**hole bowling over grandma at the pedestrian crossing. It doesn't do anything besides kill more cyclists. Well, I'm too young to die! (Who isn't?) You don't need to be a rocket scientist to work out where it would be safer for everybody (you, the motorists, and the pedestrians) to ride cautiously on a footpath than to ride on the road pi**ing motorists off because you're getting in their way, lane hogging, or whatever. Like I said, it's not rocket science. What we have an obligation to do is the *right thing* by others and by yourself. If the *right thing* doesn't happen to be legal, well tough^H^H^H^H^H obey the law, of course. I'm not trying to pick on you specifically David but there have been some really stupid (IMHO) things said in this thread in favour of riding on the footpath. Suppose I think it is very dangerous and get nervous driving my car on the road with traffic, is it OK for me to take to the foot-path? I promise I wont go over 15 km/h and I'll be very cautious. Theo, do you really need the difference between bikes and cars illustrated when it comes to using the footpath? If you think some of the comments in this thread are stupid, perhaps you should look at your own analogy. --- DFM |
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Theo Bekkers wrote in message
... "David Trudgett" wrote Making it illegal to ride a bicycle on a footpath, full stop, doesn't stop an ar**hole bowling over grandma at the pedestrian crossing. It doesn't do anything besides kill more cyclists. Well, I'm too young to die! (Who isn't?) You don't need to be a rocket scientist to work out where it would be safer for everybody (you, the motorists, and the pedestrians) to ride cautiously on a footpath than to ride on the road pi**ing motorists off because you're getting in their way, lane hogging, or whatever. Like I said, it's not rocket science. What we have an obligation to do is the *right thing* by others and by yourself. If the *right thing* doesn't happen to be legal, well tough^H^H^H^H^H obey the law, of course. I'm not trying to pick on you specifically David but there have been some really stupid (IMHO) things said in this thread in favour of riding on the footpath. Suppose I think it is very dangerous and get nervous driving my car on the road with traffic, is it OK for me to take to the foot-path? I promise I wont go over 15 km/h and I'll be very cautious. Theo, do you really need the difference between bikes and cars illustrated when it comes to using the footpath? If you think some of the comments in this thread are stupid, perhaps you should look at your own analogy. --- DFM |
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Theo Bekkers wrote in message
... "David Trudgett" wrote Making it illegal to ride a bicycle on a footpath, full stop, doesn't stop an ar**hole bowling over grandma at the pedestrian crossing. It doesn't do anything besides kill more cyclists. Well, I'm too young to die! (Who isn't?) You don't need to be a rocket scientist to work out where it would be safer for everybody (you, the motorists, and the pedestrians) to ride cautiously on a footpath than to ride on the road pi**ing motorists off because you're getting in their way, lane hogging, or whatever. Like I said, it's not rocket science. What we have an obligation to do is the *right thing* by others and by yourself. If the *right thing* doesn't happen to be legal, well tough^H^H^H^H^H obey the law, of course. I'm not trying to pick on you specifically David but there have been some really stupid (IMHO) things said in this thread in favour of riding on the footpath. Suppose I think it is very dangerous and get nervous driving my car on the road with traffic, is it OK for me to take to the foot-path? I promise I wont go over 15 km/h and I'll be very cautious. Theo, do you really need the difference between bikes and cars illustrated when it comes to using the footpath? If you think some of the comments in this thread are stupid, perhaps you should look at your own analogy. --- DFM |
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Bikes on footpaths - damn...
Well, I wouldn't go that far. As a regular footpath cyclist (with my 6YO
son) I give walkers warning and a wide berth. At low speed, there should be no real problems! I rarely ride on foot paths, but think that it's ok if it's done with discretion. Factors to include are the level of traffic on the road, whether or not a bike lane is provided, whether or not there are masses of people around, the speed you are travelling, and how far you are intending on going. Some sections of footpath have very little pedestrian traffic, and I can't see the harm in riding on them, especially if it gets you off the main road. The cops are pretty unlikely to book you unless you are being stupid about it. The thing you have to keep in mind is that you are not supposed to be there. Pedestrians have right of way over you no matter what. And if you get caught, cop it sweet. --- DFM |
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Bikes on footpaths - damn...
Well, I wouldn't go that far. As a regular footpath cyclist (with my 6YO
son) I give walkers warning and a wide berth. At low speed, there should be no real problems! I rarely ride on foot paths, but think that it's ok if it's done with discretion. Factors to include are the level of traffic on the road, whether or not a bike lane is provided, whether or not there are masses of people around, the speed you are travelling, and how far you are intending on going. Some sections of footpath have very little pedestrian traffic, and I can't see the harm in riding on them, especially if it gets you off the main road. The cops are pretty unlikely to book you unless you are being stupid about it. The thing you have to keep in mind is that you are not supposed to be there. Pedestrians have right of way over you no matter what. And if you get caught, cop it sweet. --- DFM |
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